FISA Capitulation

abdicating senatorial responsibility
piss for brains
shit for brains

I think that about covers it. We have witnessed the deliberate destruction of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America, something that has served man well since December 15, 1791.

Domestic spying can now take place against you, me, and anyone that the DOJ chooses to wiretap, without court supervision. After seven days, they can appeal and extend that illegal spying.

There will be no congressional supervision, no judicial input, and no checks on expanding our fascist state.

Thanks to the following shameful, disgusting, moronic Democrats, a big part of what made America so special died today. They voted against the amendment stripping immunity for lawbreakers.
Evan Bayh, Tom Carper, Kent Conrad, Diane Feinstein
Tim Johnson, Herb Kohl, Mary Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln
Claire McCaskill, Barb Mikulski, Bill Nelson (FL), Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Mark Pryor, Jay Rockefeller, Ken Salazar, Jim Webb


  1. Cosmopolite

    (From Yahoo News/Wikipedia):

    The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Amendment bill:

    – Prohibits the individual states from investigating, sanctioning of, or requiring disclosure by complicit telecoms or other persons.

    – Permits the government not to keep records of searches, and destroy existing records (it requires them to only keep the records for a period of 10 years).

    – Protects telecommunications companies from lawsuits for “‘past or future cooperation’ with federal law enforcement authorities and will assist the intelligence community in determining the plans of terrorists.”

    – Removes requirements for detailed descriptions of the nature of information or property targeted by the surveillance.

    – Increased the time allowed for warrantless surveillance to continue from 48 hours to 7 days.

    – Requires FISA court permission to wiretap Americans who are overseas.

    – Prohibits targeting a foreigner to secretly eavesdrop on an American’s calls or e-mails without court approval.

    – Allows the FISA court 30 days to review existing but expiring surveillance orders before renewing them.

    – Allows eavesdropping in emergencies without court approval, provided the government files required papers within a week.

    – Prohibits the government from invoking war powers or other authorities to supersede surveillance rules in the future.

    Which part of this bill (specifically) destroys the Fourth Amendment?

  2. woody188

    I’m not surprised. Why would anyone still be looking at either Democrats or Republicans to change things? Time after time both sides prove they care only for their own personal well-being and not that of our nation.

  3. rjf7r

    When the chips are down, the Dems always cave. Or is that simply as planned? Until one sees the pattern, they give one hope. On this bill they could have dashed our hopes a half year ago; instead they gave us a period of hope.

  4. Carl Nemo

    Hi rjf7r…

    Well said…!

    It seems to be “planned”…! That’s why it’s becoming so “in our face” and egregious.

    Our system of government has failed, not through the simplistic success of some grand plan on their part, but simply through public apathy and ignorance concerning the processes of government over a many year period…!

    “We the People” best learn who our betters are or consider resorting to open revolution via organized strikes or other means…!

    A tip for folks that wish to keep their very serious personal business confidential. 99 percent of surveillance cases are linked to phone conversations or information blabbed via free space radio and cell phone transmission.

    So if you have something truly important to confide then you best use the time honored method of meeting someone face to face in the outdoors, verifying that they have no wire and that your lips can’t be viewed via a clandestine vidcam. I’m very serious on this matter! Don’t depend on encryption schemes that are provided to the general public as providing absolute privacy. For all we know the companies selling these products have been forced to provide keys to the NSA etc.

    Carl Nemo **==

  5. woody188

    With the laser mics they don’t even need to see your lips. Just point it at a window of the room you are in and they can hear everything.

    We have no way to fight this system other than protest and disobedience. Open violence and now even just plotting some act will only get us killed or a free torture taxi ride.

  6. bryan mcclellan

    Please allow me to add The CLAPP, the harbinger of Syphilitic.

    Now they want us to have it too !

  7. Carl Nemo

    Hi woody 188…

    That’s why I advised people to meet outdoors in a public place that can’t be surveilled by cameras.

    In the movie “The Mechanic” starring Charles Bronson as a hit man, he’d mastered the ability to read lips. He’d observe his mark with a Questar telescope while reading the the lips of those that he was under contract to sanction. My point is you don’t even need high tech such as laser’s monitoring window glass vibrations then converting them back to an audio product.

    Carl Nemo **==

  8. Klaus Hergeschimmer

    Sack of Sh*t Democrappers are doing what they do best by taking a Stinking Steamer on our Constitution!!!


  9. DejaVuAllOver

    All I can do in good conscience is to vote for Ralph Nader. I hoped it wouldn’t come to that, but it has. I guess the good news, if any, is that it will only take a little over one in three of us to FINALLY break the two-party stranglehold, after all these years. Democraps are just as bought-and-paid-for as the Grand Old Perps.

    And I hope Feinstein gets hit by an Israeli scud. Not relevant, I know, but I FEEL better!