Hillary Clinton’s racist appeal

One expects racism from Republicans. The party of the elephant could merge with the just about any white supremacy group and not miss a beat. Hell, most people wouldn’t see any difference.

But overt racism from a Democrat is something else, although it should not surprise anyone that Hillary Rodham Clinton would use racism in her anything goes quest for the Democratic Presidential nomination.

Exit polls from Tuesday’s Pennsylvania primary show nearly one-fifth of those who went to the polls admit racism determined how they voted — and that’s just those who admitted it. Most racists will swear on a stack of Bibles that they don’t hate blacks.

Hillary Clinton won Pennsylvania because she pandered to the overt racism that exists among blue collar whites as well as the latent racism in too many others. She won because the bulk of her appeal comes from the less-educated, the less-tolerant and the less-intelligent among us. If you’re a stupid, illiterate, gun-totin’ white hick you probably voted for Hillary. And so did your ignorant, baby-popping, big-haired wife as well as that bleached-blond bar maid that you’re seeing on the side.

Now, before you hoist your Stars and Bars, clean your AR-15 and hunt me down as another Northeastern liberal who looks down his nose at just plain folk, remember that I can talk about chicken-fried racism with some authority because I’m a product of that culture: a son of the South, raised in the Bible belt where Southern Baptists sowed wild oats on Saturday night and then went to church on Sunday and prayed for crop failure.

Where I come from, the guys with the John Deere hats talk about how they voted for Hillary in the Virginia Democratic primary because “it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for the nigger.”

But racism in America is not limited to the guy with the 185 bowling average and who has confederate mud flaps on his pickup. It’s not limited to those out-of-work Pennsylvania rednecks who drink boilermakers.

Racism is alive in well in the halls of power in Congress, on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange and in the boardrooms of America’s largest corporations.

Many Americans talk a good game when it comes to race and equality but they are still bubbas in their hearts and minds and bubbas hate and distrust anything that ain’t lily white and just like themselves.

And those racists are gathering around their candidate of choice: a bleached blond carpetbagger who adapts herself to whatever political environment it takes to win an election.

Hillary Rodham Clinton may not really be one of their own but — in this race — she’s white and, for them, that’s all that matters.

Comments

  1. sherry

    Some Christians ARE ignorant bigots. And so are some Jews and some Muslims. Show me an organized religion that does not consider other religions inferior or incorrect and therefore their followers the same. Is that not bigotry?

    — Kent Shaw

    Kent, I quoted Doug’s statements and responded. I stand by my statement.

  2. rigby

    Congratulations Doug, You have played right into Karl Rove’s play book, you can bet that he has a grin on his face that couldn’t be erased with a slap shot from a shovel!!
    I won’t mince any words, you have been around too long to fall for this kind of political bullshit. As for the rest of the political meatheads posting on this site I say “Get a Grip”!!!
    The Neo-Cons are not going down without a serious “no options barred” fight and are going to make “swift boating” look like amateur play.
    Get it straight people, the United States of America is under the total control of the Wall Street, Military Defense Contractor cabal, and main stream media is the messenger.
    The message is divide and conquer!!!!
    What in the bloody hell does racism, Rev. Wright, red necks, bigots black and white have to do with the state of this country???? Get a F__King GRIP !!!
    We have a Congress that is bought and paid for by every interest except the American people.
    We have lost in excess of 4000 American lives in a war executed on baseless contemptible lies !!
    We “The People” are spending $12-16 BILLION per MONTH
    on these Wars while our own bridges, roads, utilities and infrastructure crumble beneath our feet.
    The middle class is being outsourced to India, Mexico, Europe and the far east as fast as they can sign them up!
    The only crime on Wall Street and Corporate America is getting CAUGHT!!
    Want a yacht in excess of 100 Feet? Get in line, 4 year wait!
    Want a Bentley convertible? Get in line, 3 year wait!
    Who buys the obove toys? The bastard Hedge Fund boys and thier gophers who drive the commodities markets, namely OIL and grains, GUESS who is paying???
    The list goes on and on, real unemploymemt 13-15% !!
    Inflation, at least 10%
    This is just the tip of ice berg!!!
    Do you here the GHOSTS of ROME!!!
    All of you had better wise up in a hurry or I absolutely guarantee you Bomb Bomb John will be called Mr. President !!!

  3. sherry

    Doug:Now, before you hoist your Stars and Bars, clean your AR-15 and hunt me down as another Northeastern liberal who looks down his nose at just plain folk, remember that I can talk about chicken-fried racism with some authority because I’m a product of that culture: a son of the South, raised in the Bible belt where Southern Baptists sowed wild oats on Saturday night and then went to church on Sunday and prayed for crop failure.

    Kent, I am sure Doug was not referring to ALL Southern Baptists, just all the ones HE knows.
    The article implies only the bigots vote for Hillary. Gun totin’, “tobakker” chewin’, red necks. I mean nobody with a brain could possibly support Hillary. Right?
    PS I NEVER heard of ANY farmer Baptist or otherwise praying for crop failure. But hey, what do I know?

  4. Flapsaddle

    As a matter of historical fact, however, the two most significant acts intended to ensure the rights of the black minority were done by Democrat presidents: Truman’s 1948 EO to integrate the armed forces and Johnson’s success in steering the 1964 Civil Rights Act through a hostile, Democrat-controlled Congress.

    Most sincerely,

    T. J. Flapsaddle

  5. Flapsaddle

    We have very little in common and therefore probably agree on very little, at least based on your postings.

    First, your standards for research and preparation are far below what I consider to be acceptable. IMCO, you spend insufficient time checking facts before posting, and you fail to provide even minimum documentation for many of the more specific claims you present.

    Second, I have in all cases disagreed with your posts on the basis of facts, facts that are rather easily checked in most cases. When you get matters of wrong, that is most assuredly your problem and no one else’s.

    Third, the Wikipedia is no more a matter of being someone’s opinion than is the Encyclopedia Britannica. The articles therein are attributed to individuals; therefore, they, too, are the opinions of the individual authors. Further, the books you read also are the opinions of someone, aren’t they? Is there some reason why you believe that opinions other than your own or of those with whom you agree should be less reliable?

    Fourth, I do not feel that an exchange of opinion has much value if the premises are faulty; e. g., in a discussion of the powers of the USSC, what would be the value if one of the participants insisted that the court had the power to approve or pass amendments, but had not a shred of proof to offer? That’s why I think that accuracy ab initio is necessary or the discussion is fruitless.

    Most sincerely,

    T. J. Flapsaddle

  6. Flapsaddle

    Edward Gibbon’s great opus was on the reasons for the decline and fall of Roman Empire. The Bard dealt with Julius Caesar. I think that you have confused the two.

    Most sincerely,

    T. J. Flapsaddle

  7. bobby

    The whole article starts off with a completely false premise. When one looks at the history of the two parties, one finds that the Democrats are the ones who have been the racists. Horrifically so. Virtually every government action to free, protect and elevate the Blacks in America have come from the Republicans and the Dems have tried over and over to keep the blacks repressed. Here’s lot’s of actual facts to back up this claim: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1990209/posts

  8. ekaton

    sherry: “If it makes you happy to call Christians ignorant bigots, by all means, go right ahead. You wear it on your own soul. I don’t.”

    Some Christians ARE ignorant bigots. And so are some Jews and some Muslims. Show me an organized religion that does not consider other religions inferior or incorrect and therefore their followers the same. Is that not bigotry?

    — Kent Shaw

  9. Sandra Price

    Thank you Julius Caesar! We are heading into the same Roman Empire that Shakespeare wrote about.

  10. Will Write

    Hillary Clinton is not a racist, no more than Barak Obama is a sexist. Even though Bill and Hillary probably had the highest combined IQ scores of any presidential couple, the working class is her base. If Mr. Obama were not Black, she would be carrying the Black vote as well.

    Moreover, the undereducated, uninformed (however you care to generalize and deamean them) among us, are the majority of us. IF and when they vote, they determine our leadership. Recession, fuel prices, food prices and a wrong war gone bad that kills their young disproportionately, will likely draw the working classes to the polls in record numbers come November.

    Political campaigns are run to win. Oh, that Senator Kerry would have pulled out the stops and gone head to head with Bush and Carey on their military records when he was being Swift Boated.

    Yes racism exists, and it is part of why people will or will not vote for a candidate or a party in this election. This is not news and there is nothing to be done about it.
    You can legislate anything, but to change the hearts and minds of people takes longer.

    I was born before the civil rights movement. In 50 years, African Americans quest moving from bus seats and lunch counters to a Candidacy for President of the United States is amazing.

    Oh, Justice! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, and men have lost their reason…

  11. Sandra Price

    Flapsaddle, I happen to agree with you. I am not a frantic googler as you might assume. I read a lot of books and my first impression of what I read has pretty much found me correct. As far back as 1987 I discovered the hidden agenda of the GOP. My reading of many books at that time showed me exactly where America was headed in nation building. When I went online in the mid 90s I tried very hard to warn people of the undercurrent of this soon to be known as neoconservative movement. .

    It was also a time when the religious right began their assault on Clinton. He was exposed as a skirt chasing roue. My years of reading showed me that far too many of our Presidents had been in the same adulterous positions. I learned at this time that many online forums had no background in basic political knowledge as they did not read!

    Everything I write or comment on is my own interpretation of what I have read. You still continue to try and prove me wrong. That is your problem, not mine.

    I never link to Wikipedia as it is nothing but someone elses opinion. I once felt that the internet would be a great place for the combining of information but it has become a fight to knock other’s opinions off the site.

    Basically I believe that we might agree on many subjects but you would never admit it.

  12. Flapsaddle

    Thanks again, Carl, for your kind words.

    My knowledge base derives from a combination of age, a father who inspired a love of reading, and many teachers who demanded the best of me in research and preparation.

    I like the ability to search the world of knowledge without leaving the house; however, collecting a pile of data is not the same as intellectually assimilating and comprehending it. I think that we would both agree that it is fairly easy to determine when someone actually has a command of a subject, as opposed to someone who is hastily cobbling up a collection of freshly-googled factoids.

    Most sincerely,

    T. J. Flapsaddle

  13. Carl Nemo

    TJF you always both impress and amaze me with your knowledge base covering a broad spectrum of knowledge, political or otherwise.

    I enjoy reading your posts and always have the feeling I’ve been given something of value… : )

    Your friend in thought.

    Carl Nemo **==

    p.s. I also sense you are not simply a “linkmaster” concerning your knowledge base… : |

  14. Flapsaddle

    Democrats are generally racist, if one looks at the history of politics in this country since the Civil War. A Democratic party claiming to be inclusive and fair is a relatively new phenomenon, probably no earlier than 1965.

    Following the end of Reconstruction, the former Confederate states embraced the Democratic party with a vengeance and changed labels only when the party ideology began to be dominated by social liberals and political radicals in the late Vietnam era. Even in the north, the Democrat-voting bloc of organized labor was very racist. The industrial labor unions tended to be lily-white and regularly either denied or discourage non-white membership. The public service unions representing police and firemen were also conspicuous for their lack of melanin.

    The so-called Reagan Democrats – dominated by disaffected southerners and northern labor – were voting in good part along racist lines, reacting to the “law and order” and “outside agitator” encodings used by Republicans or socially conservative Democrats. Notice how quickly that they returned to the Democrat fold when Bill Clinton, by the act of prominently humiliating Jesse Jackson and dissing rap artist Sista Souljah, showed them that he – like George Wallace – could “out nigger” George Bush.

    The only people who are incapable of understanding the reality of that rank racism associated with Democratic party politics are fatuous Democrats who tend to believe their own party’s propaganda.

    Most sincerely,

    T. J. Flapsaddle

  15. Warren

    Racism exists. But don’t blame it on Hillary. You say

    it should not surprise anyone that Hillary Rodham Clinton would use racism

    but is she really? Mind you, Hillary is the last person I want to see win this election. But that many Democrats have racist tendencies is not Hillary’s fault. And I really can’t say that she is pandering to racism. Sure, there are some comments she’s made that some people will construe to be racist, but I doubt that’s what’s going on. It appears to me that her campaign is going all out to avoid any charges of racism.
    —W—

  16. Doug Thompson

    Civil War history is big around here and most know the difference between the two flags. We have the Stars and Bars in a shadow box in our house (an ancestor fought in the War of Northern Aggression as we call it here) and both the Sons of Confederate Veterans and Daughters of the Confederacy are active in these parts.

    Better bone up Ted. Every good rebel knows the difference between the battle flag and the stars and bars.

  17. Chuckamok

    The Clintons are losing and desperate.

    If milking racism will help them “win”, then they will milk racism.

    BubbaJeff and Hildebeast will lose NO sleep whatsoever.

  18. Ted Remington

    Wow. Your guys are edumacated! People around here have no idea what it looks like! Seriously. And we aren’t all that far away.

    When people ask me, “You ain’t from around here, are you?” they mean it as a putdown, and I take great delight in answering, “Well, no, but I got here just as quick as I could.”

    Ted

  19. DejaVuAllOver

    Ya’ know, Doug’s argument is almost impossible to prove or disprove, statistically. There are at least two factors, here: demographics, by state and racism, by state, which obviously determine Obama’s (or Hillary’s) support group. These two variables tend to be mutually cancelling, i.e. states with more blacks probably have more anti-black sentiment, and vice versa. SO, IMHO, a better mode of analysis would be gut feeling or intuition. Having lived all over this great land, I tend to agree with Doug. Southern states seem to have more black haters, but they also have more blacks. And the Industrial North has a LONG history of working-class anti-black racism, and proportionally fewer black voters to balance it out. It’s an intuitive call, and it’s not better than anyone else’s call, but nonetheless, I wanted to point out how virtually useless statistics are in multi-variable situations, particularly when accurate sampling on the racism question is not even possible.

    Either way, I liked (and agree with) your analysis, Doug, although I may have got there on a different train……..!

  20. 33rdSt

    Interesting to see, once again, the suggestion that Obama wins because of racist voting. I’m thinking about Minnesota, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Kansas, Virginia . . .

  21. Doug Thompson

    Ted:

    Go back and read what I wrote. I said “hoist the Stars and Bars.” Here in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia you will see the Stars and Bars out in front of single and double wides as much as the Battle Flag.

    Guess that proves you ain’t from around here, eh?

  22. jodi23

    Doug you claimed:”Exit polls from Tuesday’s Pennsylvania primary show nearly one-fifth of those who went to the polls admit racism determined how they voted”

    Did that 22% include the 90% of blacks who obviously voted based on skin color only for Obama????? I do not believe that the overwhelming number of whites voting are at all racist. In fact the whites have showed far less racism than the blacks. While some 90 to 92 % of blacks have voted for Obama, he has also received much more than 8 to 10 % of the white vote while Hillary has been getting only 8 to 10 % of the black vote. If Obama were an experienced candidate……if his resume compared to Hillary’s, then we could say the whites were racist but in this case Hillary’s resume is much stronger than Obama’s. Most whites are voting for the stronger resume while almost all blacks have been voting Obama based on skin color…………that is racist!!!! They are voting for President of the USA based on skin color alone and cry racism every time anyone questions anything about Obama. Obama’s Church, his associates and Michelle’s …are all very important to educated voters looking at his character since he has nothing much in that resume compared to Hillary Clinton. AND I love how you think what the media told you to think ….you said “She won because the bulk of her appeal comes from the less-educated, the less-tolerant and the less-intelligent among us. If you’re a stupid, illiterate, gun-totin’ white hick you probably voted for Hillary.” Do a reality check hon….the least educated group in America are the blacks. Perhaps that is why some portion of them are voting on skin color only, they can’t read resumes. But their lack of education is not a good reason to elect an inexperienced black man that plays the race card to get elected.

    Sure Republicans would rather run against Hillary because they don’t want to deal with the racism crys and race baiting the Obama’s do. With Hillary we will debate the issues, like Iraq, universal healthcare, jobs, fixing NAFTA or enforcing trade agreements ect ect.

  23. Ted Remington

    Stars and Bars? Doug, as the people here in rural Western NC say to me frequently, “you ain’t from around here, are you?

    The Confederate flag that all your neighbors wear proudly on their underwear is the Confederate Battle Flag, not the Stars and Bars. YCLIU in wikipedia.

    I think that having Obama as a presidential candidate may well end up splitting the Democratic Party back along the lines of the “real” Democrats and the Dixiecrats of some 60 years ago. But this time the split is a tad more likely to be permanent, at least in my opinion.

    Ted

  24. Greyhawk

    Greyhawk- I usually don’t put much stock in astrology but I have a unique take on Hillary. She’s a Scorpio. Why would this sway my feelings about her? My grandmother on my father’s side, my mother, my high school sweetheart and my ex-wife are all Scorpios. This gives me an understanding of Scorpio women unlike anyone I know of. Scorpio women are extremely fiery. The ones I have known try to behave as if they are cool, calm and collected but on the inside they are anything but.
    To argue with a Scorpio woman is an exercise in futility. The Scorpio women I have argued with will say anything to anyone at any time to win any point in any argument. If one calls them on an inaccurate statement the Scorpio woman will deny that she has said it. She will do anything to win the smallest battle even if means she will lose the war.
    The Scorpio women I have known do not seem to be able to let go of resentments, even bringing up real or supposed slights 25 years later or more.
    Don’t make her angry. It’s not a pretty sight.
    I’m not saying Hillary would not be a good president. I just don’t want to have to deal with her personally.

  25. SEAL

    Greyhawk, I’ve been married to a scorpio woman for almost 40 years and she is nothing like you describe.