Bush will veto anti-waterboarding bill

President Bush is poised to veto legislation that would bar the CIA from using waterboarding — a technique that simulates drowning — and other harsh interrogation methods on terror suspects.

The president planned to talk about the veto in his Saturday radio address.

Bush has said the bill would harm the government’s ability to prevent future attacks. Supporters of the legislation argue that it preserves the United States’ right to collect critical intelligence while boosting the country’s moral standing abroad.

“The bill would take away one of the most valuable tools on the war on terror, the CIA program to detain and question key terrorist leaders and operatives,” deputy White House press secretary Tony Fratto said Friday.

The bill would restrict the CIA to using only the 19 interrogation techniques listed in the Army field manual.

The legislation would bar the CIA from using waterboarding, sensory deprivation or other coercive methods to break a prisoner who refuses to answer questions. Those practices were banned by the military in 2006, but the president wants the harsh interrogation methods to be a part of the CIA’s toolbox.

Backers of the legislation, which cleared the House in December and won Senate approval last month, say the interrogation methods used by the military are sufficient.

“President Bush’s veto will be one of the most shameful acts of his presidency,” Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said in a statement Friday. “Unless Congress overrides the veto, it will go down in history as a flagrant insult to the rule of law and a serious stain on the good name of America in the eyes of the world.”

He noted that the Army field manual contends that harsh interrogation is a “poor technique that yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say what he thinks the (interrogator) wants to hear.”

11 Responses to "Bush will veto anti-waterboarding bill"

  1. Carl Nemo  March 8, 2008 at 10:46 pm

    Many folks refer to Bush as being stupid. Rest assured he is not and is simply a good to excellent “foot soldier” as is his father, H.W. Bush, and his grandfather, Prescott Bush for the New/One World Order elite.

    His job has been to trowel in the remaining bricks of our NWO sponsored prison, albeit by statute, signing orders, vetos, or secretive agency implementation of spying, torture or whatever other means of convenience for when they ultimately declare martial law at some future date and rest assured they will do so unless they are stopped cold in their tracks!

    There’s no salvation with “Billary” or “McPain”…! She has a heart of stone and John is both senile and is the proverbial late life “village idiot”. They are both the ultimate foot soldiers for the NWO’s goal of turning the entire world into simply their “Great Plantation” with the U.S. and other former nation states simply minor occurrences of the same.

    My hope with Obama is that although he’s not perfect and no doubt has some lawyerly connected “baggage” that he will think twice before he screws over “we the people”. Why you may ask; because he’s got 30 million brothers and sisters; ie., black people who’s ancestors were on the “plantation”, then released from virtual “slavery” about 150 years ago. He’ll be looking at his “white advisors” never-ending, questionable schemes with a discerning eye for sure. He’s street savvy and knows what “the man” has been up to since the 12th of ever…!

    Waterboarding is important to these mattoids such a Bushco, McCain, Hillary and even many if not most of our newly emergent Congressional “politburo” filled with NWO sympathizers; ie., traitors to the gunnels! If their reasons were known publicly it’s because they want to use these methods on “we the people”, if necessary, at some time in the future.

    With the Patriot Act in place, anyone and I mean anyone can be declared a terrorist threat to the United States. I guess we can all sort it out later while we are held in an inverted position with water burbling out of our desperately hacking mouths…no?! : |

    I advise concerned citizens to contact their reps asap and express your concern about Bushco’s veto and the fact that it needs to be summarily overridden.

    http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
    http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

    Carl Nemo **==

  2. Sandra Price  March 8, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Here’s another reason to dump the Bush Administration and his Congress! McCain has swayed back and forth on the torture issue and we never would know how he would act if he were in the White House.

    Torture is a violation of American values but apparently not a violation of Christian values.

  3. pollchecker  March 8, 2008 at 10:12 am

    As I mentioned in an earlier blog, Huffington Post reported the following a couple of weeks ago:

    “Republican presidential candidate John McCain said President Bush should veto a measure that would bar the CIA from using waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods on terror suspects.

    McCain voted against the bill, which would restrict the CIA to using only the 19 interrogation techniques listed in the Army field manual.

    His vote was controversial because the manual prohibits waterboarding _ a simulated drowning technique that McCain also opposes _ yet McCain doesn’t want the CIA bound by the manual and its prohibitions.”

  4. Sandra Price  March 8, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Thanks pollchecker, I knew there was an action by McCain that in some way would back Bush on this.

  5. griff  March 8, 2008 at 10:54 am

    “There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”

    -James Madison

  6. Ted Remington  March 8, 2008 at 10:59 am

    They have a saying in Texas — Bush is stupid.

    Ted

  7. LurkingFromTheLeft  March 8, 2008 at 11:50 am

    What a coincidence –

    …we have a similar saying here in Pennsylvania –

    …only it is Bush is stupid AND a dangerous idiot –

    LFTL

  8. adamrussell  March 8, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Maybe we should write legislation barring Al Qaeda from using waterboarding on US soldiers and see if he would sign that.

  9. Sandra Price  March 8, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    adam, Bush doesn’t care about our troops. It is all smoke and mirrors for oil.

  10. Pablo  March 8, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    Uh…Maybe I’m just weird, but
    Wouldn’t it be much more effective and less detrimental to, instead of torturing people, dismantel all our military bases in the Middle East (Especially that huge permanent one in Iraq the press won’t talk about), apologize deeply for what we have done to them over the last 7 years, hold the culprits responsible in an international court of law (Bush, Cheney, Perle, Wolfowitz, Powell (Yes, Powell!), Rice, etc…) to show the world the sincerity of that apology, and start a whole new era of peaceful, neighborly international relations?

    I think it is quite clear that our government has been led by both, the greedy, and the fear-driven for way too long.
    Greed and the support of the fearful is what drives our resentment-breeding foreign policy. I’m amazed that, in such a ‘civilized’ society that we are even having the discussion of whether to torture or not. Shame on us!

  11. Sandra Price  March 8, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    You are absolutely right. Pull out our troops and our threats and give them a chance to get on with their lives. If we are attacked again, we can simply wipe them off the face of the earth. No American soldier should ever be put in the line of fire.

    There is no reason for America to ever be involved in the culture of other nations. Bush is a madman to think he could pull off this Empire of America. We must make an example of this crazy manic dictator before we breed any more of his kind. There is some inherent sickness in the minds of the Conservatives to kill, maim, rape and pillage in the name of Jesus Christ. I think the 2008 November election will show all of us what the American people want. If they want Bush’s Empire we should all migrate to one state and drop out of the union. Many sites are planning a secession. Will it come to this?

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