Comments on: Illinois voters to the National Rifle Association: ‘Go to hell’

By: Observer

Observer — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 +0000

Thanks for this article, CHB!

What people often say about the gun control issue is that a majority supports gun control, but it’s “soft support”. Meanwhile, anti-gun-control voters may be in a minority, but for them this is a bottom-line issue, meaning they’ll vote on this issue alone.

Your story indicates that this logjam may be beginning to end. I hope.

One cautionary note: you mentioned a crowded field, including two strong NRA supporters. Did these two NRA supporters split the pro-gun vote? And did this allow a gun-control advocate to win? If all this is true, this election might not carry over to other races that feature only one pro-NRA candidate.

By: Capitol Hill Blue

Capitol Hill Blue — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 00:19:10 +0000

Sigh, the tone of your “response” proves our point. Giving you facts won’t do a bit of good. We learned of the political activity in the race by the NRA through good sources that gave us the info we needed to go to print but we will protect those sources and use the documentation in financial reports to follow up. But that doesn’t matter to people like you because your mind is made up and facts don’t change your bias. We will print the followup when the facts are in and, frankly, we don’t give a damn how you feel about it. We publish this site for people who let facts guide their way of thinking, not those who follow the pro-gun movement with cult-like bias. We’re aren’t the only ones following this money trail. Other sites like Politico are too.

By: Charles Ely

Charles Ely — Mon, 04 Mar 2013 00:00:18 +0000

So, your saying that you don’t have the information,yet you printed the story. Sounds like all the bias is on your end. If you had any facts, you would have published them. Would I have double checked. Of course. But in the final analysis, I would have believed hard data. Your nasty,belittling attitude does nothing to help the free exchange of ideas.

By: Capitol Hill Blue

Capitol Hill Blue — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:36:15 +0000

When the final financial reports are in to the Federal Election Commission, we will print a detailed list of where the money came from and how it was spent. We don’t expect you to accept it. We’ve found many times before that NRA supporters aren’t interested in facts, especially when they get in the way of pro-gun bias. We’re also working on a series about the many lies that the NRA leadership tells to its membership and the public. Will it change the bias of NRA members? Probably not.

By: Charles Ely

Charles Ely — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 22:06:16 +0000

“The NRA told its members that it wasn’t wasting any money in the race but secretly poured a lot of money, time and resources into it, using third party political action committees and contract consultants.”

Ok, can anyone provide any proof of this or is it just hearsay. Sound to me like the article is more of a hit piece rather than attempt to report the news.

By: Capitol Hill Blue

Capitol Hill Blue — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 17:43:35 +0000

As the story pointed out, the NRA attempted to conceal its help by using third party political action committees and outside consultants. The NRA routinely lies to its membership and the public about its political involvement and this race was not different. What is even more interesting is the pro-NRA comments we received from posters using fake email addresses. They were caught by our anti-spam filters.

By: Bill Cravener

Bill Cravener — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:47:30 +0000

The NRA is no more then stink in the air and the time has come to call their bluff. They should rename their group to NGNA “National Gun Nut Association”.

By: Jon

Jon — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 08:43:05 +0000

Hear hear. Zealots should always be defeated in a reasonable world.

By: Charles Ely

Charles Ely — Sun, 03 Mar 2013 07:43:21 +0000

I think you need to check your facts on this one. Yes,
Bloomberg spent over $2 million on the race, but the NRA spent zero and had no involvement. I don’t really think this adds up to Illinois voters telling the National Rifle Association to ‘Go to hell’