Comments on: Who won the veep debate? Opinions vary

By: blutodog

blutodog — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 20:03:54 +0000

Doug got it right on. Both did what they had to do for their respective bases. It was a draw for the most part. Martha though spouting right wing Corporatist talking pts. about SSI and Medicare going broke was weak and uncalled for.

By: bryan mcclellan

bryan mcclellan — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 15:51:38 +0000

Half of the truth is better than none so from my perspective Joe stuck it in his ear. All would be calling Joe gutless had he sat there and not refuted a blatant liar and huckster.
Not to say that the shoe fits either of them equally well..hack..

By: Sandy Price

Sandy Price — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:05:09 +0000

The replies here to Doug’s commentary are as good as the debate itself. This blog format chosen by Doug is great! and we are terrific. We know why we vote and we are not shy about it.

By: Danny Adams

Danny Adams — Sat, 13 Oct 2012 02:57:44 +0000

As I recall, Romney interrupted Obama enough that Obama said Romney might learn something if he would be quiet and listen. But no doubt those were all polite, non-petulant interruptions.

By: therealraven

therealraven — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:37:00 +0000

Biden is an ill tempered and mannered dolt. The snickering and constant interrupting was the display of a petulant child. On the matter of substance I would give an edge to Biden but overall I’d go Ryan simply based on the foolishness displayed by Biden. I think one count had him interrupting 81 times. Raddatz was not that much better.

By: Sandy Price

Sandy Price — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:50:03 +0000

Nice link Bill. I will keep it for reference. 538 is the number of House Members or something like that?

By: Jim B.

Jim B. — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:07:04 +0000

Forgot to mention in previous post that I liked Bill Maher’s tweet during the debate: “Call 911…On TV, there’s an old man beating a young child.”

RE: Steven’s post….Good points…RE: Voter Suppression…I can’t stand this dirty trick by Repubs. — a solution in search of a problem — it’s a variation on the ol’ Jim Crow laws.

By: Steven Stoney Stoner

Steven Stoney Stoner — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:00:54 +0000

My The Repulicans here in Ohio,tried to surpress the right to vote,whats up with that?
Kasich (Gov) here wants credit for the new jobs,when in fact it was union consecions & Obamas cash for clunkers stimulus.
Biden won the debate by holding ryans feet to the fire.

By: Bill Cravener

Bill Cravener — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:42:00 +0000

“And yet, Bill, Romney is pulling ahead.”

Oh I don’t know about that Sandy. The only polling I even care to look at is Nate Silvers fivethirtyeight site where he calculates the outcome of the elections. This guy is a numbers guru and called the 2008 elections smack on.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

By: Jim B.

Jim B. — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:34:42 +0000

Good points, Sandy and Bill!…From what the talking heads have said on various shows, Doug’s assessment is in congruence with them — If you’re a Repub., you probably thought Ryan did well, and if you’re a Dem., you probably thought Biden helped stem the bleedng from the first Presidential debate.

I liked what one commentator said, Biden was really on his game, answering Ryan’s charges point for point which is what Obama did not seem to do in his debate. Also, I thought Biden & Obama both did some effective schtick when they would turn to the TV camera and say, “Listen, if you’re a older American, this is what the other side wants to do to you (or words to that effect)…” It made their presentations during those brief periods intimate and engaging.

Biden’s a bit of a character, and like one of the PBS commentators said, “He’s a kitchen table guy.”….He’s earthy and came off more real & authentic than Ryan.

In these debates, Obama & Ryan are more alike in demeanor — cooler and formal, and the Rom and Biden are more alike too — animated and spunky.

If people wanted to watch a lively debate, this was the one to view…it engagingly held a persons’ interest. Another PBS commentator said that whenever the candidates sit for the debate, the debate is usually much better…So, for the next Presidential debate, bring out a couple of chairs, so it’ll be a more interesting one…..Oh, and a third one, but put that one in the wings so that Clint has someone to talk to.