Clinton: Garnish wages to pay for health care

Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC’s “This Week,” she said: “I think there are a number of mechanisms” that are possible, including “going after people’s wages, automatic enrollment.”

Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it, which puts undue pressure on hospitals and emergency rooms. With her proposals for subsidies, she said, “it will be affordable for everyone.”

Clinton also suggested that Obama would be more susceptible to Republican attack ads in a general election because he has not been scrutinized for years as she has.

“I’ve been through the Republican attacks over and over again,” she said. When Obama was elected to the Senate from Illinois in 2004, she said, he “didn’t face anyone who ran attack ads” comparable to those aimed at her.

The presidential contenders in both parties campaigned all-out on Sunday, two days before the Super Tuesday voting in 24 states holding primaries or caucuses.

Clinton was campaigning in Missouri and Minneapolis. Obama scheduled a rally in Wilmington, Del., while some of his highest-profile surrogates — his wife, Michelle, Oprah Winfrey and Caroline Kennedy — were rallying voters in Los Angeles. Among Republicans, Arizona Sen. John McCain was stumping in Connecticut and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney scheduled stops in Glen Ellyn, Ill., and the St. Louis suburb of Maryland Heights. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was concentrating on the South, with appearances in Georgia and Tennessee.

McCain told “Fox News Sunday” he would veto any tax increase passed by a Democratic-controlled Congress. McCain, who opposed President Bush’s first two tax cuts, now says Congress should make the reductions permanent, and that there also should be further tax reductions for business investments.

His chief rival, Romney, told the ABC program that McCain “doesn’t understand the economy” and that his advocacy of a higher gasoline tax to combat global warming would hurt U.S. consumers.

Romney also called on Huckabee to drop from the race. In response, called the suggestion “ludicrous,” noting that only a fraction of the delegates needed to win the Republican presidential nomination had been apportioned thus far.

“I’ve got a different take on that. I think it’s time for Mitt Romney to step aside,” Huckabee said on CNN.

Comments

  1. Carl Nemo

    What people fail to realize is that the SS Trust fund wouldn’t be in trouble if every president since Lyndon Johnson hadn’t used it for their pet programs as if it were their personal piggy bank.

    The Nam debacle was getting quite expensive and Johnson needed bucks, so he and his advisors came up with the idea of raiding the SS fund then pitching an IOU from the Treasury to pay the withdrawal back at some future date.

    I’d hate to think how much money has been pilfered since Johnson’s presidency, but for sure the Treasury can’t make up the shortfall without printing more unbacked counterfeit USD that are nothing but firestarter at this point in time; ie., post WWI Germany, Weimar Republic style hyper-inflated currency…!

    So if elected, Hillary and her wasteful friends in Congress our newly emergent politburo will come up with a way to extract more bucks from “we the people” and will eventually pilfer it too.

    As of now we have the income tax of 1913, never ratified per Constitutional requirement, we also have the SS Trust fund that’s become nothing but a tax the government is dependent upon for it’s day to day operations, then a national health care plan that they too will mismanage and pilfer in a short time. I also understand they’ve stripped the funds from the government retirees pension fund too, doing the same nonsense they do with the SS Trust fund; ie., pitching bogus Treasury IOU’s to cover future outlays…?

    Folks, DC is nothing but a “Potemkin Village” capitol of a nation that is flat dead broke and all the money and assets you think you own and are of some value have imploded to almost zero! The only thing that keeps this criminal “two-step” on the dance floor is “we the people” are willing to continue to believe a big fat lie and continue the dance…!

    Regardless of who is elected to the presidency, the real problem is this continuing criminal enterprise that’s being operated by Congress. We need a major turnover in Congress and to continue to do so, concerning a turnover until we get people that will protect the interests of our citizens.

    Carl Nemo **==

    Note: The Federal Reserve Act, also of 1913 was pushed through on December 23 of that year while the Democratically controlled Congress was basically home on their Christmas holiday break!? The law was written by shadowy bankers who attended a super-secret meeting on Jekyll Island, Georgia then given to their paid off shills in Congress for surreptitious passage. The main thing is to notice, is that when these evil, mattoids pass legislation that destroys our freedom and puts “we the people” in jeapardy it’s always done in the dead of night, when Congress is on a holiday so-to-speak…!

  2. Rick Fuller

    What are these “realities” and how badly did the American people fare under these realities? If you’re talking about the New Deal – then Americans fared and continue to fare pretty well under these “government intrusions.”

  3. bryan mcclellan

    This silly old boomer has a grip on the realities of govt.intervention into our right to choose,Do you?

  4. Rick Fuller

    There’s an Internet research tool GOOGLE® – it’s all there for your consumption.

    You’re lucky – you’ll see Social Security, I’ll never see it.

  5. knockknock

    Had I wanted to vote for Hillary, the possibility that she’d even consider taking away our freedom of choice in insurance or anything else, would have changed my mind.

    Whew! Good thing I wasn’t going to vote for her anyway.

  6. cassie

    Hey Rick,

    Facts and figures please. Not the boomers fault, we paid double social security and we’re still screwed.

    Cassie

  7. Rick Fuller

    Quote: “Each American has a right to determine the course of their health care, and the appropriate treatment for any illness. Under a government plan, this would not exist.

    Don’t give up your rights for simplistic, instant gratification. There are other solutions beyond forcing those who can ill afford to pay for health insurance and/or a national insurance.”

    That’s why citizens in countries with “socialized” medicine outlive Americans. You do realize that under the current system, America ranks near the bottom of the list in longevity.

    Silly old Boomers…

  8. Rick Fuller

    Remember it just wasn’t Bush’s idea – the entire Republican controlled Congress agreed. Don’t let the former Republican-controlled Congress get off so easily.

  9. Rick Fuller

    In case you haven’t paid any attention to what has happened the last seven years under a “privatized” Iraq – American “Disaster” Corporations made HUGE profits. Wouldn’t you rather keep the money “in house” with our own government?

  10. cassie

    Government health care means a lot more intrusion into your life!!!

    Do you really want government mandated health care? Do you want politicians voting to tell you that vaccinations are required, not optional, for receipt of care?

    That your weight, blood pressure and cholesterol must be at a certain level, and if not, that you must take Big Pharma’s poison pills to get them to the government mandated levels??

    Want to know where government is going with regard to your health care? Look at them trying to take away your vitamins
    http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php

    Look at what Mississippi wants to do: stop restaurants from feeding the obese! What’s next, stop grocery stores from selling them anything but vegetables?? http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2008/html/HB/0200-0299/HB0282IN.htm

    If you wish to invite the government into the total control of your health care, be prepared to accept the inept, bureaucratic decrees that will follow. Many will be downright stupid.

    Each American has a right to determine the course of their health care, and the appropriate treatment for any illness. Under a government plan, this would not exist.

    Don’t give up your rights for simplistic, instant gratification. There are other solutions beyond forcing those who can ill afford to pay for health insurance and/or a national insurance.

    One solution is to make all health care insurers non-profit, and to stack their boards with real Americans, not wealthy Americans who already serve on other multinational corporations’ boards. Require these companies to cover all, with a nation wide fee per person, community rated by looking at the total US, not an individual region.

  11. pollchecker

    “You have no reason at all to think that Clinton’s plan would be a big government bureaucratic mess.”

    Respectfully, I believe I do. I have studied this issue and Hillary’s plan.

    I put my faith in the Clinton’s once before and they made matters worse.

    Being one of the uninsured I want Hillary’s plan as much as I want a Republican plan.

    I am not saying that Obama’s plan is the answer but I believe he is the only one left running that might actually accomplish something helpful and/or useful.

    I don’t see Hillary’s plan creating anything more than another bureaucratic big government wasteful spending program.

    There are better answers than Hillary’s plan. It is certainly not the be all solution other’s would represent it to be.

  12. Caro

    You have no reason at all to think that Clinton’s plan would be a big government bureaucratic mess.

    Carolyn Kay
    MakeThemAccountable.com

  13. Caro

    Why don’t you think about what the alternative is–health care at more than twice the cost per person?

    Carolyn Kay
    MakeThemAccountable.com

  14. yarply

    Right on Steve, Their determining factor would be that if you can put back a 100 dollars a month in savings you can afford their insurance by using that 100. Gee wizz they would say, you have a hundred a month you are doing nothing with. You have to use that. You can afford it.

  15. yarply

    Yep, they will garnish your wages, thereby depriving you of choice (slavery) and then/if you do need help they will tell you that your condition is not covered or leave you sitting in the ER till you die and then just pocket all the money they have stole from you.

  16. Carl Nemo

    This is also a “dipstick” sampling of Hillary’s style of leadership if elected. Where “Slick Willy” was smooth and subtle in accomplishing his goals, she’s going to be an “in our face” entity that in short order is going to be a skirted version of Bushco; our “Big Sister”…! 😐

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

    Carl Nemo **==

  17. pollchecker

    “No one that’s running is talking about the real problem with healthcare and that is reining in running away cost escalation.”

    You are correct about this. There are 2 parts to this problem. The rising cost and fair and reasonable access. The candidates talk mostly about access and not about costs.

    I wonder why that is? (gggg)

  18. Wayne K Dolik

    Healthcare in America is a scam. No one that’s running is talking about the real problem with healthcare and that is reining in running away cost escalation. No one is talking about the Pharmaceutical program that Bush organized. No one is talking about ridiculous Hospital costs. Therefore, until there is a real conversation about reducing costs, there is nothing going to happen except a bunch of politicians blowing a lot of hot air about getting elected.

    Medicare funds healthcare. Once you are on Medicare your HMO gets over 600 dollars for you and over 600 dollars for your wife. That’s $1200 bucks a month for two people, just to be in a HMO. That is about $14,400 dollars per year for two people. This is the dirty little secret HMO’s don’t want you to know about!

    Another, misnomer about healthcare is about the uninsured. When Congress made Medicare they made an agreement with all hospitals, that they must treat the uninsured. Many folks don’t know this fact. But it is 100% true. Therefore, when uninsured can’t afford healthcare, Medicare funds it through the hospital thru a generous Medicare funding program. That is the truth about our government funded healthcare system.

    So, Hillary is showing her desire to shove her fingers up people’s noses. Let’s make big government steal your money. This just another way to part you from your money. Be careful what you wish for. Hillary wants the total Nanny State.

  19. Steve Horn

    “Clinton said such measures would apply only to workers who can afford health coverage but refuse to buy it”

    – who makes the determination about what people can afford, the government? Sorry Charlie, but I’ve already got more governmental influence in my life than I like – Hillary can sit on this one and rotate.

    Peace

    Steve

  20. Flapsaddle

    Health care will be just as rationed under a universal system as it is now…

    Equal health care for all should be an “unalienable right” for ALL Americans – not only for those who can afford to pay or those wealthy enough to “pay for the best.”

    …the only difference is that the “customer” will now be the government bureaucracy overseeing the new pork-fest instead of the insurance companies.

    The wealthy will still have access to more/better care for chronic or special health conditions than will you or I.

    Most respectfully,

    T. J. Flapsaddle

  21. Rick Fuller

    Janet wrote:

    “Exxon Mobil (40 billion profit last year) and Halliburton (who even knows how much THEY’VE made)…could pay for healthcare for everyone.

    Garnishing wages – bad.”

    Janet, either you can have deductions from your paycheck or you can pay for higher-priced goods; either way, you’ll pay.

  22. pollchecker

    I understand your plight. I have lived with it for a long time myself.

    However, perhaps we should start garnishing some of the profits of Exxon, Shell and Halliburton, instead of more BIG GOVT bureaucracy that ALWAYS ENDS UP COSTING MORE THAN WE GET!

    I am not against gov’t programs. I am against more wasteful big gov’t bureaucratic messes called programs. And I have no reason to believe that Hillary’s proposition is anything less than that.

  23. Janet

    Exxon Mobil (40 billion profit last year) and Halliburton (who even knows how much THEY’VE made)…could pay for healthcare for everyone.

    Garnishing wages – bad.

    Providing free healthcare paid for by ending the financial toilet that is the Iraq War and having everyone pay a small tax (it would be much less than you’re paying for premiums)to pay for it like they do in European countries, is the answer. If you could get the same kind of quality healthcare that congress gets for, say, $100.00 a month or $1200.00 a year, would that work for you? Works for me. Currently, I am paying $600.00 a month, COBRA is ending in 2 weeks. I then won’t have health insurance, as I am unemployed and can’t afford it.

  24. WWWexler

    If ever we wanted to give the GOP something to scream “nanny state” about, this would be it.

    Why can’t Hillary come up with something more rational, like if you don’t sign up for health insurance a couple of guys will come over to your house and break your kneecaps?

    -Wexler

  25. Rick Fuller

    For all of the CHB’ers whining about “forced” pay health care – get over it.

    We all pay somehow: either pay deductions, thru higher prices of goods (due to employer provided health care), or on April 15th.

    Equal health care for all should be an “unalienable right” for ALL Americans – not only for those who can afford to pay or those wealthy enough to “pay for the best.”