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		<title>By: Carl Nemo **==</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo **==</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This afternoon I sent you a personal email airing concern for your health issues and also an apology for my behavior of late. 

As I implied in the email you didn&#039;t deserve the literary lashings that I&#039;ve laid upon you and your site, specifically my charge of you utilizing &#039;sock puppets&#039; for editors and staff. I realize it caused you angst; again my apologies for writing such rather than contacting you personally concerning such issues. 

CHB provides &quot;the right stuff&quot; as a news forum and has stood the test of time in terms of web longevity. Carry on Sir...!

Wishing you, your staff, both CHB and RR&#039;s forum participants the best of luck for the remainder of 2012 and beyond. : &#124; 
Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This afternoon I sent you a personal email airing concern for your health issues and also an apology for my behavior of late. </p>
<p>As I implied in the email you didn&#8217;t deserve the literary lashings that I&#8217;ve laid upon you and your site, specifically my charge of you utilizing &#8216;sock puppets&#8217; for editors and staff. I realize it caused you angst; again my apologies for writing such rather than contacting you personally concerning such issues. </p>
<p>CHB provides &#8220;the right stuff&#8221; as a news forum and has stood the test of time in terms of web longevity. Carry on Sir&#8230;!</p>
<p>Wishing you, your staff, both CHB and RR&#8217;s forum participants the best of luck for the remainder of 2012 and beyond. : |<br />
Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 08:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl Nemo writes:

&lt;blockquote&gt;As for me being an ombudsman for this site, that’s your opinion. Rest assured I will not, will not be bullied by anyone, not even the site host or an editor. I’m not dense and get your drift as to me no longer being welcome on this site.

If your clicks for $$ are a valued commodity, then my final suggestion is that the newly implaced staff value their readership and if not, CHB’s following will assuredly wither and die like a slug under the noonday sun.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Carl, it is outrageous assumptions like this that get you into trouble.  First of all, I don&#039;t give a damn about clicks, money or traffic. Never have, never will. This site has never been a business, has never made money and never was intended to be a business venture. Real long-time readers know that.

Second, the only person who can make a decision on whether or not a commenter is welcome is me.  You chose to issue this bitter farewell without appealing the editor&#039;s decision on removing your earlier comment (and appeals from readers come to me all the time). I overruled the editor on the decision to prohibit the full text of the joke and your original post was restored before you stomped off. Is your goal is to find any excuse to be critical rather than offer any real constructive advice?

For the record, I was unaware of the new guidelines put in place by the editor.  I have been out recovering from pneumonia and have only had time to review past articles over the weekend.  I felt the new guidelines were too restrictive and ordered them removed.  That is my prerogative.  I own this thing and I pay the bills.

Capitol Hill Blue will not die because some posters choose to leave no more than it would die if I left.  This site has been a fixture on the web for more than 17 years and it exists to report news -- nothing more, nothing less. The only thing that will kill this site is if I choose to shut it down.  And no one will make that choice for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl Nemo writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>As for me being an ombudsman for this site, that’s your opinion. Rest assured I will not, will not be bullied by anyone, not even the site host or an editor. I’m not dense and get your drift as to me no longer being welcome on this site.</p>
<p>If your clicks for $$ are a valued commodity, then my final suggestion is that the newly implaced staff value their readership and if not, CHB’s following will assuredly wither and die like a slug under the noonday sun.</p></blockquote>
<p>Carl, it is outrageous assumptions like this that get you into trouble.  First of all, I don&#8217;t give a damn about clicks, money or traffic. Never have, never will. This site has never been a business, has never made money and never was intended to be a business venture. Real long-time readers know that.</p>
<p>Second, the only person who can make a decision on whether or not a commenter is welcome is me.  You chose to issue this bitter farewell without appealing the editor&#8217;s decision on removing your earlier comment (and appeals from readers come to me all the time). I overruled the editor on the decision to prohibit the full text of the joke and your original post was restored before you stomped off. Is your goal is to find any excuse to be critical rather than offer any real constructive advice?</p>
<p>For the record, I was unaware of the new guidelines put in place by the editor.  I have been out recovering from pneumonia and have only had time to review past articles over the weekend.  I felt the new guidelines were too restrictive and ordered them removed.  That is my prerogative.  I own this thing and I pay the bills.</p>
<p>Capitol Hill Blue will not die because some posters choose to leave no more than it would die if I left.  This site has been a fixture on the web for more than 17 years and it exists to report news &#8212; nothing more, nothing less. The only thing that will kill this site is if I choose to shut it down.  And no one will make that choice for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo **==</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/43071/comment-page-1#comment-187680</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo **==</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 07:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings Ms. Gayler:

All I can say to your post is that none of us are without sins against race, at least on occasion...no? / : &#124;

With reference to a stoning:

&quot;So when they continued asking him (Jesus), he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.&quot; ...John 8:7 Christian Bible]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings Ms. Gayler:</p>
<p>All I can say to your post is that none of us are without sins against race, at least on occasion&#8230;no? / : |</p>
<p>With reference to a stoning:</p>
<p>&#8220;So when they continued asking him (Jesus), he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.&#8221; &#8230;John 8:7 Christian Bible</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 05:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl,

I do not understand how you can be touchy after your comment about judges being appointed for life therefore no matter what he can or perhaps should stay.  During the early history of this nation Supreme Court Judges sided with southerners regarding slavery, that was wrong but it took hindsight for some to finally understand.  I would probably place you in that bevy, slow to understand.  Even the bible was used to justify mans inhumanity to man, as the Koran is being used by some for the same reason today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl,</p>
<p>I do not understand how you can be touchy after your comment about judges being appointed for life therefore no matter what he can or perhaps should stay.  During the early history of this nation Supreme Court Judges sided with southerners regarding slavery, that was wrong but it took hindsight for some to finally understand.  I would probably place you in that bevy, slow to understand.  Even the bible was used to justify mans inhumanity to man, as the Koran is being used by some for the same reason today.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo **==</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/43071/comment-page-1#comment-187627</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo **==</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 21:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The text starts out saying, “Normally I don’t send or forward a lot of these, but even by my standards, it was a bit touching. I want all of my friends to feel what I felt when I read this. Hope it touches your heart like it did mine.”

[The joke that followed included a lewd reference to Obama’s biracial parentage.]

Cebull was appointed to the federal bench in 2001 by then-President George W. Bush.&quot; ...extract from article content presumably &#039;edited&#039; by CHB my brackets

Since there was no disclaimer to the fact that the joke was held back intentionally it seemed fair to me posting it as a reply to Woody&#039;s reference to the same concerning it being simply a &quot;your Mom kinda joke&quot; which it was not.  

We&#039;re talking about accusing a U.S. Federal Judge of racism, so in an open society one would think the alleged inflammatory content would be posted in an article such as this, but it was not, leaving readers to either fetch it for themselves or to let the issue lie and fester within as to what this assuredly racist judge shared with associates etc. 
I simply provided the content for which the allegations arises concerning his &#039;racism&#039;. If anything it was a tasteless joke, but is not absolutely indicative that the judge is a racist concerning his decisions from the bench. 

As for me being an ombudsman for this site, that&#039;s your opinion. Rest assured I will not, will not be bullied by anyone, not even the site host or an editor. I&#039;m not dense and get your drift as to me no longer being welcome on this site.  

If your clicks for $$ are a valued commodity, then my final suggestion is that the newly implaced staff value their readership and if not, CHB&#039;s following will assuredly wither and die like a slug under the noonday sun.  

Finis...!

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The text starts out saying, “Normally I don’t send or forward a lot of these, but even by my standards, it was a bit touching. I want all of my friends to feel what I felt when I read this. Hope it touches your heart like it did mine.”</p>
<p>[The joke that followed included a lewd reference to Obama’s biracial parentage.]</p>
<p>Cebull was appointed to the federal bench in 2001 by then-President George W. Bush.&#8221; &#8230;extract from article content presumably &#8216;edited&#8217; by CHB my brackets</p>
<p>Since there was no disclaimer to the fact that the joke was held back intentionally it seemed fair to me posting it as a reply to Woody&#8217;s reference to the same concerning it being simply a &#8220;your Mom kinda joke&#8221; which it was not.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re talking about accusing a U.S. Federal Judge of racism, so in an open society one would think the alleged inflammatory content would be posted in an article such as this, but it was not, leaving readers to either fetch it for themselves or to let the issue lie and fester within as to what this assuredly racist judge shared with associates etc.<br />
I simply provided the content for which the allegations arises concerning his &#8216;racism&#8217;. If anything it was a tasteless joke, but is not absolutely indicative that the judge is a racist concerning his decisions from the bench. </p>
<p>As for me being an ombudsman for this site, that&#8217;s your opinion. Rest assured I will not, will not be bullied by anyone, not even the site host or an editor. I&#8217;m not dense and get your drift as to me no longer being welcome on this site.  </p>
<p>If your clicks for $$ are a valued commodity, then my final suggestion is that the newly implaced staff value their readership and if not, CHB&#8217;s following will assuredly wither and die like a slug under the noonday sun.  </p>
<p>Finis&#8230;!</p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: woody188</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody188</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 19:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually was going to link to the full text of the joke but did not do so due to the posted guidelines.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually was going to link to the full text of the joke but did not do so due to the posted guidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Stockman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Stockman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Almost everyone is prejudiced in some way or other but Federal Judges should be held to a high standard. It bothers me more that Federal Judges decide political issues such as redistricting or who won the 2000 presidential race along their political ideals. And why do you make people go and hunt around the internet to get the text of some lame racist joke instead of just publishing it and saying it&#039;s stupid. 
Many jokes are by nature exaggerated, racist or prejudicial. Maybe President Obama should replace him with a black judge. Oh, I forgot. there aren&#039;t any blacks in Montana.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost everyone is prejudiced in some way or other but Federal Judges should be held to a high standard. It bothers me more that Federal Judges decide political issues such as redistricting or who won the 2000 presidential race along their political ideals. And why do you make people go and hunt around the internet to get the text of some lame racist joke instead of just publishing it and saying it&#8217;s stupid.<br />
Many jokes are by nature exaggerated, racist or prejudicial. Maybe President Obama should replace him with a black judge. Oh, I forgot. there aren&#8217;t any blacks in Montana.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Gayler</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/43071/comment-page-1#comment-187492</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Gayler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl, having sex and making a racisit comment via a joke are two different things. This judge is supposed to be unbiased towards anyone coming into his court. The joke proves otherwise. And racist is racist, no matter if it&#039;s towards whites, blacks or purple people eaters. If it walks like duck...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, having sex and making a racisit comment via a joke are two different things. This judge is supposed to be unbiased towards anyone coming into his court. The joke proves otherwise. And racist is racist, no matter if it&#8217;s towards whites, blacks or purple people eaters. If it walks like duck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo **==</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/43071/comment-page-1#comment-187473</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo **==</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 04:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree Woody188. If anything the sending of this email is indicative of the low metric content that circulates via their court network, &#039;family and friends&#039; except this one was over the top.  Maybe the good judge hits the sauce at the end of hard &#039;daze&#039; work of sending interstate cattle rustlers to the pen. 

Here&#039;s the content so folks can read it rather than depending on the article content alluding to the Judge&#039;s indiscretion without providing the content. 

***

From the article: “Cebull sent the e-mail from his courthouse address on Feb. 20 to family members and friends. The subject line was: ‘A Mom’s Memory.’ The text said: ‘A little boy said to his mother, ‘Mommy, how come I’m black and you’re white?’ His mother replied, ‘Don’t even go there Barack! From what I can remember about that party, you’re lucky you don’t bark!’” 

***

/ : &#124;

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Woody188. If anything the sending of this email is indicative of the low metric content that circulates via their court network, &#8216;family and friends&#8217; except this one was over the top.  Maybe the good judge hits the sauce at the end of hard &#8216;daze&#8217; work of sending interstate cattle rustlers to the pen. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the content so folks can read it rather than depending on the article content alluding to the Judge&#8217;s indiscretion without providing the content. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>From the article: “Cebull sent the e-mail from his courthouse address on Feb. 20 to family members and friends. The subject line was: ‘A Mom’s Memory.’ The text said: ‘A little boy said to his mother, ‘Mommy, how come I’m black and you’re white?’ His mother replied, ‘Don’t even go there Barack! From what I can remember about that party, you’re lucky you don’t bark!’” </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>/ : |</p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo **==</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo **==</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 03:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Federal Judge he doesn&#039;t have to step down and I surely hope he does not!

Bill Clinton didn&#039;t step down over the Monica scandal nor was the impeachement against him successful.  G.W. Bush didn&#039;t step down due to the fact he Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Colin Powell et al. lied about the presence of of WMD&#039;s in Iraq, or will Barack Obama when eventually the truth will come out about his cooked birth certificate and his questionable bonafides. 

Judge Richard Cebull has an appointment to the Federal bench authorized by Congress and so too endorsed by G.W. Bush our former President. He&#039;s a judge for life, even if convicted of a crime he can continue to draw his paycheck unless Congress decides to remove him from the bench via impeachment which they won&#039;t in this case. 

I can&#039;t imagine a Montana Federal judge such as Cebull who no doubt has some &#039;starch&#039; where it counts stepping down over kneejerk pressure from a bunch of liberal &#039;leftie&#039; hypocrites. He&#039;ll possibly be censured, he&#039;ll apologize and that&#039;s end of story. 

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Federal Judge he doesn&#8217;t have to step down and I surely hope he does not!</p>
<p>Bill Clinton didn&#8217;t step down over the Monica scandal nor was the impeachement against him successful.  G.W. Bush didn&#8217;t step down due to the fact he Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Colin Powell et al. lied about the presence of of WMD&#8217;s in Iraq, or will Barack Obama when eventually the truth will come out about his cooked birth certificate and his questionable bonafides. </p>
<p>Judge Richard Cebull has an appointment to the Federal bench authorized by Congress and so too endorsed by G.W. Bush our former President. He&#8217;s a judge for life, even if convicted of a crime he can continue to draw his paycheck unless Congress decides to remove him from the bench via impeachment which they won&#8217;t in this case. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine a Montana Federal judge such as Cebull who no doubt has some &#8216;starch&#8217; where it counts stepping down over kneejerk pressure from a bunch of liberal &#8216;leftie&#8217; hypocrites. He&#8217;ll possibly be censured, he&#8217;ll apologize and that&#8217;s end of story. </p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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