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		<title>By: KishinD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KishinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s strange to me that self-help movements repeat the positive side of this same coin.

Walmart, Lowe&#039;s, and more are now employing &quot;robot cashiers&quot; - automation allows one cashier to do the job of four.  Factories started experiencing this years ago, and as tech improves the problem will become more severe.  Automation will soon threaten health care jobs, in roughly a decade.  Let&#039;s walk down the timeline here... higher production with less need for the human contribution.  What do we do, collectively, when tech allows production of adequate food, shelter, water, and recreation, for all living people, with a 40% unemployment rate?  What about with an 80% unemployment rate?

The essence is cheap, incredibly cheap, &quot;robot slave labor&quot;. As energy production becomes cheaper and cleaner, this workforce will become cheaper as well.  Even China is losing jobs to automation.  This is not science fiction, it&#039;s science future. This is a real 21st century issue.  Uneducated labor will become nearly obsolete.  Is it right to allow the general populace to achieve prosperity, with better and better wages and shorter and shorter hours?  Or do we choose to allow the owners of society to reap the benefits while the vast lower class struggles for even the basics of survival?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s strange to me that self-help movements repeat the positive side of this same coin.</p>
<p>Walmart, Lowe&#8217;s, and more are now employing &#8220;robot cashiers&#8221; &#8211; automation allows one cashier to do the job of four.  Factories started experiencing this years ago, and as tech improves the problem will become more severe.  Automation will soon threaten health care jobs, in roughly a decade.  Let&#8217;s walk down the timeline here&#8230; higher production with less need for the human contribution.  What do we do, collectively, when tech allows production of adequate food, shelter, water, and recreation, for all living people, with a 40% unemployment rate?  What about with an 80% unemployment rate?</p>
<p>The essence is cheap, incredibly cheap, &#8220;robot slave labor&#8221;. As energy production becomes cheaper and cleaner, this workforce will become cheaper as well.  Even China is losing jobs to automation.  This is not science fiction, it&#8217;s science future. This is a real 21st century issue.  Uneducated labor will become nearly obsolete.  Is it right to allow the general populace to achieve prosperity, with better and better wages and shorter and shorter hours?  Or do we choose to allow the owners of society to reap the benefits while the vast lower class struggles for even the basics of survival?</p>
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		<title>By: KishinD</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42183/comment-page-1#comment-175454</link>
		<dc:creator>KishinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 02:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, how about living wages?  An average bank teller in the 70s could support a family of four, a car, and a mortgage on a single income.  Where are jobs like that today?  Is it so difficult to conceive that a family could be sustained on a single 40-hour job?

Cap executive pay at 40x that of the company&#039;s lowest paid employee.  Or even better, mandate that 66% of stock of publicly-traded companies be permanently and equally held by the employees, thus destroying the dictatorship model of corporations and instituting a democratic one.

The current system rewards executives and shareholders for the success of a company, but not the workers.  The current system rewards executives and shareholders for the failure of a company, but punishes and displaces workers.

The &quot;owners&quot; (as George Carlin framed it) of our society want virtually the whole pie to themselves, but we ALL helped bake that pie.  If we believe fundamentally that people cannot be purchased, then neither can their labors be purchased, since it is an extension of the person.  The result of this strong anti-slavery sentiment is that laborer owns their labor, and therefore owns part of the whole that the labor contributes to and sustains.  The balance in our economy will be maintained when the workers own themselves, and their time, and that to which their time contributes.  Wages are merely a contract for slavery by the hour.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, how about living wages?  An average bank teller in the 70s could support a family of four, a car, and a mortgage on a single income.  Where are jobs like that today?  Is it so difficult to conceive that a family could be sustained on a single 40-hour job?</p>
<p>Cap executive pay at 40x that of the company&#8217;s lowest paid employee.  Or even better, mandate that 66% of stock of publicly-traded companies be permanently and equally held by the employees, thus destroying the dictatorship model of corporations and instituting a democratic one.</p>
<p>The current system rewards executives and shareholders for the success of a company, but not the workers.  The current system rewards executives and shareholders for the failure of a company, but punishes and displaces workers.</p>
<p>The &#8220;owners&#8221; (as George Carlin framed it) of our society want virtually the whole pie to themselves, but we ALL helped bake that pie.  If we believe fundamentally that people cannot be purchased, then neither can their labors be purchased, since it is an extension of the person.  The result of this strong anti-slavery sentiment is that laborer owns their labor, and therefore owns part of the whole that the labor contributes to and sustains.  The balance in our economy will be maintained when the workers own themselves, and their time, and that to which their time contributes.  Wages are merely a contract for slavery by the hour.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Keegan</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42183/comment-page-1#comment-175206</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Keegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks like it&#039;s going to be Romney vs. Obama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like it&#8217;s going to be Romney vs. Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: SDRSr</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42183/comment-page-1#comment-175168</link>
		<dc:creator>SDRSr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 13:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hate to disagree with you about Harry S. Truman. It was he, who set the US on the road that eventually led to the down fall of the Soviet Union. Furthermore, several presidents after Truman continued the Truman Doctrine, most notably John F, Kennedy (Cuban Missile Crises)

For a hat salesman, Harry S. Truman did pretty dam good.


Obligatory Wikipedia links
Truman Doctrine - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Doctrine

Cuban Missile Crises - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

Harry S. Truman - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S_Truman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to disagree with you about Harry S. Truman. It was he, who set the US on the road that eventually led to the down fall of the Soviet Union. Furthermore, several presidents after Truman continued the Truman Doctrine, most notably John F, Kennedy (Cuban Missile Crises)</p>
<p>For a hat salesman, Harry S. Truman did pretty dam good.</p>
<p>Obligatory Wikipedia links<br />
Truman Doctrine &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Doctrine" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_Doctrine</a></p>
<p>Cuban Missile Crises &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis</a></p>
<p>Harry S. Truman &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S_Truman" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S_Truman</a></p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42183/comment-page-1#comment-175146</link>
		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what else is there? Perpetual life on the govt tit?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what else is there? Perpetual life on the govt tit?</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42183/comment-page-1#comment-175145</link>
		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s really interesting in this regard is the attitude and approach of many illegals, who have come here and done just that... i.e., created their own jobs. Some of this was of necessity... lack of documentation, and all... but the bottom line that we&#039;ve heard so many times: they do jobs Americans won&#039;t, says it all. Manual labor is mostly what they do - which has become just too much trouble and too beneath too many. They&#039;re just not nearly as uppity and &quot;deserving&quot;.

So yeah, if you can&#039;t create a job, maybe you could take one, if you&#039;re up to the task.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s really interesting in this regard is the attitude and approach of many illegals, who have come here and done just that&#8230; i.e., created their own jobs. Some of this was of necessity&#8230; lack of documentation, and all&#8230; but the bottom line that we&#8217;ve heard so many times: they do jobs Americans won&#8217;t, says it all. Manual labor is mostly what they do &#8211; which has become just too much trouble and too beneath too many. They&#8217;re just not nearly as uppity and &#8220;deserving&#8221;.</p>
<p>So yeah, if you can&#8217;t create a job, maybe you could take one, if you&#8217;re up to the task.</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42183/comment-page-1#comment-175144</link>
		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that too.</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bravo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo.</p>
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		<title>By: nastynorm</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42183/comment-page-1#comment-175139</link>
		<dc:creator>nastynorm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 13:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TYPICAL GOODIE TWO SHOE REPUBLICIAN.THESE BIG GUYS DON&#039;T CARE IF YOUR UNEMPLOYED AND HUNGRY.MAKE THEM PAY AT THE VOTING BOOTH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TYPICAL GOODIE TWO SHOE REPUBLICIAN.THESE BIG GUYS DON&#8217;T CARE IF YOUR UNEMPLOYED AND HUNGRY.MAKE THEM PAY AT THE VOTING BOOTH.</p>
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		<title>By: griff</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42183/comment-page-1#comment-175135</link>
		<dc:creator>griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Wall Street alone isn&#039;t to blame for all the lost jobs, it&#039;s the Wall Street - corporate - government trio of tyranny that is to blame.

While Cain does have some what of a point to make, the chance of making even a quasi-comfortable living - much less enjoying the possibility of upward mobility - is all but impossible in today&#039;s political, economic and social atmosphere.

It wasn&#039;t too long ago that one could make a comfortable living right out of high school, support a family, and retire comfortably.

That was the American Dream for most folks - just a chance to work hard, make a good living, raise a good family, and enjoy life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Wall Street alone isn&#8217;t to blame for all the lost jobs, it&#8217;s the Wall Street &#8211; corporate &#8211; government trio of tyranny that is to blame.</p>
<p>While Cain does have some what of a point to make, the chance of making even a quasi-comfortable living &#8211; much less enjoying the possibility of upward mobility &#8211; is all but impossible in today&#8217;s political, economic and social atmosphere.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t too long ago that one could make a comfortable living right out of high school, support a family, and retire comfortably.</p>
<p>That was the American Dream for most folks &#8211; just a chance to work hard, make a good living, raise a good family, and enjoy life.</p>
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