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		<title>By: eve</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42132/comment-page-1#comment-174980</link>
		<dc:creator>eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The two party system is a one party system &quot;masquerading&quot; as a two party system.

Americans are ignorant and cowardly.
Sad but true.

That being said, the public&#039;s opinion is spot on, so not everyone is ignorant or cowardly.

Just goes to show us ... not everyone has drank the cool aid......thank God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two party system is a one party system &#8220;masquerading&#8221; as a two party system.</p>
<p>Americans are ignorant and cowardly.<br />
Sad but true.</p>
<p>That being said, the public&#8217;s opinion is spot on, so not everyone is ignorant or cowardly.</p>
<p>Just goes to show us &#8230; not everyone has drank the cool aid&#8230;&#8230;thank God.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42132/comment-page-1#comment-174877</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, KishinD.

I don&#039;t know about non-violence being completely effective.  Look at the recent &quot;Arab Spring&quot;.  While much was non-violent, there are always a few nuts with guns who do have to be violently overthrown, because that&#039;s the only language they understand.

It is my opinion that the government of Israel only understands violence.

As an irrelevant aside, some of FDR&#039;s policies may have been marginally unconstitutional.  Even the Supreme Court, the ultimate arbiter of what is and what is not Constitutional, has reversed itself a few times (see &quot;Dred Scott&quot;).  

But I suspect that attempting to provide work and food and health care for everyone pales into a peccadillo beside blatant violations like starting a war just on Presidential authority (Iraq twice, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc), imprisoning people without charge (Guantanamo Bay), demanding proof of innocence against an assumption of guilt (drunk driver checkpoints), and the list goes on.

FDR was a piker for messing with the Constitution.  What has happened since is much much worse.

Congress last declared war in 1941 - Oddly enough, during the FDR administration.

So you and Bush were right.  It is just a &#039;goddamn piece of paper&#039; now.  When those charged with enforcing the law of the land are deliberately violating it, there isn&#039;t much alternative.

Finally, No.  I don&#039;t think we can find a new way.  There are plenty of old ways that were tried and abandoned; as they were steadily corrupted from the inside.

It&#039;s humanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, KishinD.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about non-violence being completely effective.  Look at the recent &#8220;Arab Spring&#8221;.  While much was non-violent, there are always a few nuts with guns who do have to be violently overthrown, because that&#8217;s the only language they understand.</p>
<p>It is my opinion that the government of Israel only understands violence.</p>
<p>As an irrelevant aside, some of FDR&#8217;s policies may have been marginally unconstitutional.  Even the Supreme Court, the ultimate arbiter of what is and what is not Constitutional, has reversed itself a few times (see &#8220;Dred Scott&#8221;).  </p>
<p>But I suspect that attempting to provide work and food and health care for everyone pales into a peccadillo beside blatant violations like starting a war just on Presidential authority (Iraq twice, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc), imprisoning people without charge (Guantanamo Bay), demanding proof of innocence against an assumption of guilt (drunk driver checkpoints), and the list goes on.</p>
<p>FDR was a piker for messing with the Constitution.  What has happened since is much much worse.</p>
<p>Congress last declared war in 1941 &#8211; Oddly enough, during the FDR administration.</p>
<p>So you and Bush were right.  It is just a &#8216;goddamn piece of paper&#8217; now.  When those charged with enforcing the law of the land are deliberately violating it, there isn&#8217;t much alternative.</p>
<p>Finally, No.  I don&#8217;t think we can find a new way.  There are plenty of old ways that were tried and abandoned; as they were steadily corrupted from the inside.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: KishinD</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42132/comment-page-1#comment-174867</link>
		<dc:creator>KishinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The internet is a double edged sword.  If a person enjoys challenging their own beliefs and grappling with cognitive dissonance, the internet is an amazing tool for personal growth and education.  If a person, however, enjoys feeding their confirmation bias, the internet is an amazing tool for galvanizing one&#039;s emotional faiths and intellectual entrenchment.

And of course, there are some who do neither and simply use it for entertainment or practical purposes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internet is a double edged sword.  If a person enjoys challenging their own beliefs and grappling with cognitive dissonance, the internet is an amazing tool for personal growth and education.  If a person, however, enjoys feeding their confirmation bias, the internet is an amazing tool for galvanizing one&#8217;s emotional faiths and intellectual entrenchment.</p>
<p>And of course, there are some who do neither and simply use it for entertainment or practical purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: KishinD</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42132/comment-page-1#comment-174861</link>
		<dc:creator>KishinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can despair if you like.  But if you don&#039;t realize the times are changing, then you&#039;re not paying attention.  I don&#039;t believe that there&#039;s more lazy loudmouth obstinate idiots then ever.  They&#039;ve always been with us, they will continue to be with us forever.  They exist within all political and religious viewpoints.  But more and more we realize that major media is universally biased towards the status quo, regardless of political and religious affiliation.

We are NOT cowards.  Okay, some of us are cowards.  And it&#039;s true we&#039;ll need a lot more activity and bravery before the end of this age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can despair if you like.  But if you don&#8217;t realize the times are changing, then you&#8217;re not paying attention.  I don&#8217;t believe that there&#8217;s more lazy loudmouth obstinate idiots then ever.  They&#8217;ve always been with us, they will continue to be with us forever.  They exist within all political and religious viewpoints.  But more and more we realize that major media is universally biased towards the status quo, regardless of political and religious affiliation.</p>
<p>We are NOT cowards.  Okay, some of us are cowards.  And it&#8217;s true we&#8217;ll need a lot more activity and bravery before the end of this age.</p>
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		<title>By: KishinD</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42132/comment-page-1#comment-174859</link>
		<dc:creator>KishinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Y&#039;know Jon, I understand your anger and that it inspires violence.  And I might agree with you, if we were living 20, 40, 80 years ago. Today, nonviolence is more effective than violence.  Look at the Palestinians, if they&#039;d been practicing nonviolent protests and making that available to the world public eye, they&#039;d have their own state by now.  But they insist on violence, and that leads to a pointless discussion over who&#039;s more wrong.

When people see other people being brutalized for simply taking a stand, it leaves no question who the moral party is, and who is being unfairly treated.  It worked for MLK, it worked for Ghandi. The disparity between the national armed forces (military and police) and the citizens has never been greater.  Violent actions by citizens and citizen groups will only allow the pro-establishment media to label them as domestic terrorists and dismiss them and their views.

The degeneration of our republic can be tied to the denigration of our Constitution.  Many of FDR&#039;s policies and agencies were inherently unconstitutional, but no one spoke out loudly at the time. If we don&#039;t hold our government to the highest law in the land, then Bush was right when he said &quot;It&#039;s just a goddamn piece of paper.&quot;

And we don&#039;t have a two-party system. We have a one-party system(the Authoritarian party) with two faces.

I agree with you 100% when you say &quot;It won&#039;t change without revolution.&quot;  But violence begets more violence.  We seek a new way, but not a civil war.  Our advanced communications networks allow methods never before conceived.  Join the 99% - can we invent a totally new way of self-organizing, politically and economically?  We must try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know Jon, I understand your anger and that it inspires violence.  And I might agree with you, if we were living 20, 40, 80 years ago. Today, nonviolence is more effective than violence.  Look at the Palestinians, if they&#8217;d been practicing nonviolent protests and making that available to the world public eye, they&#8217;d have their own state by now.  But they insist on violence, and that leads to a pointless discussion over who&#8217;s more wrong.</p>
<p>When people see other people being brutalized for simply taking a stand, it leaves no question who the moral party is, and who is being unfairly treated.  It worked for MLK, it worked for Ghandi. The disparity between the national armed forces (military and police) and the citizens has never been greater.  Violent actions by citizens and citizen groups will only allow the pro-establishment media to label them as domestic terrorists and dismiss them and their views.</p>
<p>The degeneration of our republic can be tied to the denigration of our Constitution.  Many of FDR&#8217;s policies and agencies were inherently unconstitutional, but no one spoke out loudly at the time. If we don&#8217;t hold our government to the highest law in the land, then Bush was right when he said &#8220;It&#8217;s just a goddamn piece of paper.&#8221;</p>
<p>And we don&#8217;t have a two-party system. We have a one-party system(the Authoritarian party) with two faces.</p>
<p>I agree with you 100% when you say &#8220;It won&#8217;t change without revolution.&#8221;  But violence begets more violence.  We seek a new way, but not a civil war.  Our advanced communications networks allow methods never before conceived.  Join the 99% &#8211; can we invent a totally new way of self-organizing, politically and economically?  We must try.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42132/comment-page-1#comment-174858</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just as a throwaway - I read somewhere (possibly on Cap Blue!) that &quot;He who robs Peter to pay Paul can pretty much count on Paul&#039;s vote.&quot;

I&#039;d add to that, &quot;And now Paul has more money, so guess whose campaign will be more effective?&quot;.

J.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a throwaway &#8211; I read somewhere (possibly on Cap Blue!) that &#8220;He who robs Peter to pay Paul can pretty much count on Paul&#8217;s vote.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add to that, &#8220;And now Paul has more money, so guess whose campaign will be more effective?&#8221;.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/42132/comment-page-1#comment-174857</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you, Mr. Nemo, pointed out eloquently, we have a two-party system.  Unfortunately, the way the rules were written, the electorate would naturally degenerate into such.  The Founding Fathers of the USA were bright folks, but even they weren&#039;t omniscient, and they missed the unavoidable degeneration of their designed system into what we have here today.

I also have to add more glum news - It won&#039;t change without violent revolution.  When the system itself is corrupted, and inherently self-corrupting (look at all those freshman Representatives who lost no time whatsoever adding porky earmarks to every spending bill despite campaign promises against such) it can only end badly.

This is how empires fall.

J.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you, Mr. Nemo, pointed out eloquently, we have a two-party system.  Unfortunately, the way the rules were written, the electorate would naturally degenerate into such.  The Founding Fathers of the USA were bright folks, but even they weren&#8217;t omniscient, and they missed the unavoidable degeneration of their designed system into what we have here today.</p>
<p>I also have to add more glum news &#8211; It won&#8217;t change without violent revolution.  When the system itself is corrupted, and inherently self-corrupting (look at all those freshman Representatives who lost no time whatsoever adding porky earmarks to every spending bill despite campaign promises against such) it can only end badly.</p>
<p>This is how empires fall.</p>
<p>J.</p>
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		<title>By: KishinD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KishinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl, it seems like you ought to get on board with #OccupyWallStreet.  

http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

Someone with your vast knowledge in these matters would be a boon to movement.  The livestream chat can get a little rowdy, and the issues that are being pushed are diverse as the ways in which we&#039;re getting screwed, but the energy of the movement is peaceful and revolutionary.  Check it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, it seems like you ought to get on board with #OccupyWallStreet.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution" rel="nofollow">http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution</a></p>
<p>Someone with your vast knowledge in these matters would be a boon to movement.  The livestream chat can get a little rowdy, and the issues that are being pushed are diverse as the ways in which we&#8217;re getting screwed, but the energy of the movement is peaceful and revolutionary.  Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: griff</title>
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		<dc:creator>griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Sandra, we&#039;re just outnumbered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Sandra, we&#8217;re just outnumbered.</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Touche...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touche&#8230;</p>
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