Another Marilyn Monroe porn film?

A Spanish collector plans to auction what he claims is a newly discovered 8-mm version of a film purportedly showing Marilyn Monroe having sex when she was still an underage actress known as Norma Jean Baker.

A Marilyn Monroe expert, however, says the actress in the film is someone else, considerably heavier and less feminine than the legendary film star.

“That’s not Marilyn. The chin is not the same, the lips are not the same, the teeth are not the same,” said Scott Fortner, who has a sizeable collection of Monroe memorabilia, including a belt he said proves how much more petite she was. “Marilyn was a tiny little thing. And I know that for a fact. I own her clothing.”

Collector Mikel Barsa said in an interview Wednesday that he wants at least $500,000 for the sexually explicit 6½-minute, grainy black-and-white film, which he says was made before 1947, when Monroe was not yet 21.

He said it’s an exact copy of a 16-mm film discovered more than a decade ago. Barsa brokered a sale of that film to a European magazine in 1997, which he said in turn sold some 600,000 copies before a collector bought the original 16-mm reel for $1.2 million. Copies of that version are still circulating on the Internet.

“People with romantic notions have denied that it’s Marilyn Monroe, and have invented stories” to raise doubts about the film, Barsa said in his Buenos Aires office, which is lined with pictures from his days as a concert promoter. “This film shows the real Marilyn Monroe — it was only later that the studios discovered her and transformed her.”

The face of the woman in the film looks considerably different from the Monroe who emerged later as a star, but more similar to the Monroe seen in one of her first movies, 1949′s “Love Happy,” which shows the actress before she lost weight, added a beauty spot on her left cheek and became one of Hollywood’s most enduring stars.

Barsa said he has no idea how the two original copies ended up in the hands of the people who sought his help selling them, and he refused to identify any of the principals involved. He said that in the 1940s, sex films were often made using side-by-side 16-mm and 8-mm cameras, since audiences used both formats.

The collector said that Mark Roesler of Indianapolis-based CMG Worldwide, which has managed the image and estate of Monroe, threatened to sue after the earlier version surfaced in 1997. Barsa said nothing ever came of it after the owners offered to sell the film to CMG.

Roesler didn’t respond Wednesday to two emails and a phone call requesting comment.

Barsa says he plans to auction the film himself Aug. 7 at a memorabilia collectors fair that he has organized in Buenos Aires, and is hoping for publicity similar to the scandal he generated when he screened the 16-mm version at a similar fair in Madrid in 1997. News coverage of his auction is already creating another buzz on the Internet.

His part of the deal is a 10 percent sales commission, he said.

A variety of sexually explicit films and pictures have been attributed to Monroe over the years, fostering a long and unresolved debate.

“In the Marilyn community, people have debated this for years and years and for the most part it’s widely believed that this is not her,” Fortner said.

Still, even Fortner said Monroe’s image changed considerably as she became a star — that she had some plastic surgery, learned how to hold her face differently in modeling school and adopted a mole on her left cheek. “I actually think it moved from time to time,” Fortner said.

Monroe died of an overdose of sleeping pills in 1962 at 36.

7 Responses to "Another Marilyn Monroe porn film?"

  1. Ron klink  July 21, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Of course it is MM before the jawbone surgery and the making ofMM She had a wide jaw that was reduced with surgery before they would even consider making her a star. Looks like her when she was Norma Jean

    • Gina  July 25, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      That makes sense. So many 19year old ‘not yet discovered’ girls like Norma Jean can afford cosmetic procedures like jawbone surgery.

      This porn film is a fake.

      • Carl Nemo  July 25, 2011 at 5:53 pm

        Here’s a link to a series of photo’s of Marilyn Monroe as Norma Jean Dougherty so folks can do their own comparison. Although Ron klink’s proposal of surgery is possible, I don’t think such work was done on a routine basis in the late 40′s to early 50′s and not without visible consequences, unlike in our times with advanced surgical procedures, although faciomaxillary surgery had advanced quite a bit due to reconstructive techniques related to WWII related combat injuries.
        Besides her jawline looks fine. She might be a little on the plump side facially speaking, but that can be handled by weight loss and some physical exercise and a proper diet, other than that she was a very attractive young woman in no need of any surgery. Surgical body sculpting is a modern era phenomena and not something found in that era except under extraordinary circumstances.

        http://www.life.com/gallery/23130/image/3225515#index/5

        Why anyone would pay the kind of money mentioned in this article for an 8mm is beyond me, collectors or not. I suspect the film is a fake. Viewing the supplied photo’s in this link shows a young woman that doesn’t seem all that sophisticated; ie., rather a sweet young girl who would surely be outraged at producing such a film as an ‘underage hopeful’ in those times.

        Carl Nemo **==

        • Gina  July 25, 2011 at 6:02 pm

          Here’s another postwww.experienceproject.com/stories/Love-Marilyn-Monroe/1685133?edited=t

        • Gina  July 25, 2011 at 7:10 pm

          Many porn sites have the Marilyn Monroe film. All the media attention directs people to the porn sites. It seems to be a great way to direct traffic to them -and probably a whole bunch of new customers..
          Ron Klink i(former U.S. Rep) currently works for a law group named Nelson Mullins Riley & Scarborough LLP” who seems to be involved with an interesting industry..

          Look at the title of the publication to the below link.

          “A publication of the Technology Industry Group of Nelson Mullins Riley & Scarborough LLP”
          .XXX Approved: Brand-owners need to get their mind in the gutter
          goto>http://www.nelsonmullins.com/newsletters/cyberwatch-vol-11-no-1

  2. Carl Nemo  July 25, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    I did some further research and came with an excellent link that supplies and a/b comparison of the alleged Monroe lookalike and the real article. If once compares the porn lookalike to the Life.com gallery era photo’s of that era once will realize in a minute that the lookalike is quite ‘dumpy’ compared to the young Marilyn in the archive series. The hairline, jawline, nose and teeth do not match. The easiest way to determine if it’s a fake is to do a modern biometric facial scan of two photo’s, one genuine and the other from this film. No doubt Hugh Hefner would know if this film is geniuine or not since he launched his Playboy magazine publishing empire with Marilyn on the cover of the December 1953 issue.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/21/marilyn-monroe-porn-film-alleged-auction_n_905427.html

    Supposedly this X-rated film short went for $1.5 million which makes me somewhat ill when I think of all the good that amount of money could do for some cause. This type of collecting is indicative to fhe sick state of affairs planet earth finds itself in the early part of the 21st century. Seemingly we’re soon to witness the “Late Great Planet Earth” phenomenon. Nation’s are financially bust, senseless, engineered wars are being waged in the Middle East, North Africa and elsewhere along with 7 billion souls grasping and clawing for the last easy to fetch resources from the planet’s crust. Meanwhile, empty, morally bankrupt souls pay big bucks for bling, x-rated or otherwise. / : |

    Carl Nemo **==

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