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		<title>By: DejaVuAllOver</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40924/comment-page-1#comment-160412</link>
		<dc:creator>DejaVuAllOver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 02:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish people would stop talking about Israel being &quot;created&quot; in 1948, it just makes them look like ignoramuses and reinforces Israeli propaganda.  The only thing that happened in 1948 was the UN giving Israel the rubber stamp and accepting the name change to &quot;Israel&quot; from what had been known for 500 years (at least) as Palestine.  The &quot;state&quot; of Israel was created by the British army, the Rothschilds, a backroom dirty deal or twelve and a bunch of Jewish terrorists launching false-flag attacks in the 1917 to 1948 period.   The Brits finally gave up trying to keep the peace (they could have stayed but chose not to) and let the terrorists have their way.  I suppose anyone gets tired of being shot in the back by your alleged &quot;friends.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish people would stop talking about Israel being &#8220;created&#8221; in 1948, it just makes them look like ignoramuses and reinforces Israeli propaganda.  The only thing that happened in 1948 was the UN giving Israel the rubber stamp and accepting the name change to &#8220;Israel&#8221; from what had been known for 500 years (at least) as Palestine.  The &#8220;state&#8221; of Israel was created by the British army, the Rothschilds, a backroom dirty deal or twelve and a bunch of Jewish terrorists launching false-flag attacks in the 1917 to 1948 period.   The Brits finally gave up trying to keep the peace (they could have stayed but chose not to) and let the terrorists have their way.  I suppose anyone gets tired of being shot in the back by your alleged &#8220;friends.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40924/comment-page-1#comment-160221</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 05:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Solid thoughts Woody, but that wall isn&#039;t coming down...ever!  They&#039;ve staked their claim and its tough sh*t for Hamas and the Palestinians.  

My comments on this thread aren&#039;t pro-Israel per se, but simply expressing the real politik of the region.  :  &#124;  

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid thoughts Woody, but that wall isn&#8217;t coming down&#8230;ever!  They&#8217;ve staked their claim and its tough sh*t for Hamas and the Palestinians.  </p>
<p>My comments on this thread aren&#8217;t pro-Israel per se, but simply expressing the real politik of the region.  :  |  </p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: woody188</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody188</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 04:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One man&#039;s terrorist is another man&#039;s freedom fighter. There was no Israel until 1948 when Israel was carved out of Palestine.  What if they had taken Florida instead? Would you call Floridians against Israel terrorists if they were fighting to take back Florida?

Israel is the most highly armed nation in the region. Netanyahu&#039;s claim of not being able to defend it is totally bogus, particularly since they illegally built a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;30-ft concrete wall&lt;/a&gt; along most of 1967 lines. According to the UN, Israel isn&#039;t supposed to be building settlements past the 1949 green line, so Netanyahu&#039;s argument is also in direct defiance with international law. Those settlers should not be there in the first place. But it&#039;s hard to argue with a theocracy of fundamentalists that believe they are Yahweh&#039;s chosen people and that Yahweh gave them that land.

Too bad for them a closer reading of their own scripture shows that Yahweh also said he and he alone would return them to their promised land and any attempt to regain the land on their own would result in their own destruction. Perhaps we are seeing Yahweh&#039;s wrath with every suicide bomb.

It&#039;s funny how the United States can&#039;t pay for a fence with Mexico but gives aid to build this monstrosity in Israel. This thing is many time the size of the Berlin Wall. Mr. Netanyahu, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One man&#8217;s terrorist is another man&#8217;s freedom fighter. There was no Israel until 1948 when Israel was carved out of Palestine.  What if they had taken Florida instead? Would you call Floridians against Israel terrorists if they were fighting to take back Florida?</p>
<p>Israel is the most highly armed nation in the region. Netanyahu&#8217;s claim of not being able to defend it is totally bogus, particularly since they illegally built a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier" rel="nofollow">30-ft concrete wall</a> along most of 1967 lines. According to the UN, Israel isn&#8217;t supposed to be building settlements past the 1949 green line, so Netanyahu&#8217;s argument is also in direct defiance with international law. Those settlers should not be there in the first place. But it&#8217;s hard to argue with a theocracy of fundamentalists that believe they are Yahweh&#8217;s chosen people and that Yahweh gave them that land.</p>
<p>Too bad for them a closer reading of their own scripture shows that Yahweh also said he and he alone would return them to their promised land and any attempt to regain the land on their own would result in their own destruction. Perhaps we are seeing Yahweh&#8217;s wrath with every suicide bomb.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how the United States can&#8217;t pay for a fence with Mexico but gives aid to build this monstrosity in Israel. This thing is many time the size of the Berlin Wall. Mr. Netanyahu, TEAR DOWN THAT WALL!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40924/comment-page-1#comment-160183</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 16:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spot-on jim0001!  Netanyahu is absolutely correct in that such a &#039;line on the map&#039; border is not defendable along with the fact that Hamas and the rest of the arab world would rejoice in the destruction of Israel which isn&#039;t going to happen, shy of the world experiencing the long predicted Armageddon.  Obama &amp; Co. are &#039;village idiots&#039; for even proposing such a DOA concept.   It has created controversy where there should be none.  

Israel does not admit to owning nukes, but our intel indicates they are in possession of at leat 100-200 thermonuclear devices, not fission weapons; but fusion in nature .   All the major arab and non arab capitals such as in Iran are already targeted in the event they do something stupid.  Rest assurred Israel will not hold back if they are pushed against the wall and find themselves without U.S. support.  

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot-on jim0001!  Netanyahu is absolutely correct in that such a &#8216;line on the map&#8217; border is not defendable along with the fact that Hamas and the rest of the arab world would rejoice in the destruction of Israel which isn&#8217;t going to happen, shy of the world experiencing the long predicted Armageddon.  Obama &amp; Co. are &#8216;village idiots&#8217; for even proposing such a DOA concept.   It has created controversy where there should be none.  </p>
<p>Israel does not admit to owning nukes, but our intel indicates they are in possession of at leat 100-200 thermonuclear devices, not fission weapons; but fusion in nature .   All the major arab and non arab capitals such as in Iran are already targeted in the event they do something stupid.  Rest assurred Israel will not hold back if they are pushed against the wall and find themselves without U.S. support.  </p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: jim0001</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim0001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Hamas constitution calls for the total destruction of Israel. 

Negotiation with a terrorist group will not achieve peace, Cettel.

Yasir Arafat was a terrorist just like OBL. Same theme different face.

Wake up and smell the threat!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hamas constitution calls for the total destruction of Israel. </p>
<p>Negotiation with a terrorist group will not achieve peace, Cettel.</p>
<p>Yasir Arafat was a terrorist just like OBL. Same theme different face.</p>
<p>Wake up and smell the threat!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cettel</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40924/comment-page-1#comment-160139</link>
		<dc:creator>cettel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 02:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama restated what had been the official U.S. position before George W. Bush, and which was supported by Ehud Barak but rejected by Yasir Arafat at Camp David causing those peace talks to collapse. This idea is to allocate the same total land area to Israel and to the Palestinians as before the 1967 war, and then, with that as the base, to have the two sides trade land with each other so as to form the final boundaries.

This is the only basis upon which peace can even possibly be achieved between those two negotiants. The only alternative is restoration of hot war there between the Israelis and the Palestinians; and that would necessarily entail continuation of hatred of America by the majority of Muslims around the world, because the U.S. would then be supporting Israel no matter how much Israel would be controlled by the fanatical West Bank settlers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama restated what had been the official U.S. position before George W. Bush, and which was supported by Ehud Barak but rejected by Yasir Arafat at Camp David causing those peace talks to collapse. This idea is to allocate the same total land area to Israel and to the Palestinians as before the 1967 war, and then, with that as the base, to have the two sides trade land with each other so as to form the final boundaries.</p>
<p>This is the only basis upon which peace can even possibly be achieved between those two negotiants. The only alternative is restoration of hot war there between the Israelis and the Palestinians; and that would necessarily entail continuation of hatred of America by the majority of Muslims around the world, because the U.S. would then be supporting Israel no matter how much Israel would be controlled by the fanatical West Bank settlers.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40924/comment-page-1#comment-160138</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2011 02:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe so, Almandine. Seemingly he wasn&#039;t all that keen on the OBL sanction either, the same as Bush &amp; Co during the Tora Bora cave complex SOCOM insertion where they let OBL get away.  This President  was kept out of the loop until the last minute.  The situation room photo speaks a thousand words.  He&#039;s surely not given a position of deference as President and evidently was extracted from a game of golf when everything came down...?  / : &#124;

Here&#039;s a link describing how the sanction progressed, basically with Leon Panetta controlling the operation via a separate link that kept the mission from being aborted by  last minute Executive equivocation.  The mission was a &quot;go&quot; as far as Clinton, Gates, Panetta and the Generals et al. were concerned with seemingly protracted politically based conflict between Valerie Jarrett, one of Obama&#039;s &#039;handlers&#039;  and the mission all linked to his political &#039;image&#039;.   

http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

He&#039;s a master at talking out of both sides of his mouth to the unwashed masses; ie., a world class demagogue.  They simply handed him a &#039;victory script&#039; to read post sanction.  

Unequivocally he will not be reelected because he&#039;s foolishly crossed the State of Israel and exposed his hand.  He&#039;s Jimmy Carter redux. Israel both own and control our crimpols&#039;  butts, lock stock and barrel.  :  &#124;

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe so, Almandine. Seemingly he wasn&#8217;t all that keen on the OBL sanction either, the same as Bush &amp; Co during the Tora Bora cave complex SOCOM insertion where they let OBL get away.  This President  was kept out of the loop until the last minute.  The situation room photo speaks a thousand words.  He&#8217;s surely not given a position of deference as President and evidently was extracted from a game of golf when everything came down&#8230;?  / : |</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link describing how the sanction progressed, basically with Leon Panetta controlling the operation via a separate link that kept the mission from being aborted by  last minute Executive equivocation.  The mission was a &#8220;go&#8221; as far as Clinton, Gates, Panetta and the Generals et al. were concerned with seemingly protracted politically based conflict between Valerie Jarrett, one of Obama&#8217;s &#8216;handlers&#8217;  and the mission all linked to his political &#8216;image&#8217;.   </p>
<p><a href="http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/" rel="nofollow">http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/</a></p>
<p>He&#8217;s a master at talking out of both sides of his mouth to the unwashed masses; ie., a world class demagogue.  They simply handed him a &#8216;victory script&#8217; to read post sanction.  </p>
<p>Unequivocally he will not be reelected because he&#8217;s foolishly crossed the State of Israel and exposed his hand.  He&#8217;s Jimmy Carter redux. Israel both own and control our crimpols&#8217;  butts, lock stock and barrel.  :  |</p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40924/comment-page-1#comment-160127</link>
		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 22:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our &quot;Christian&quot; President, ever the Global Democrat, has proven himself to be the Best Muslim advocate in the West .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our &#8220;Christian&#8221; President, ever the Global Democrat, has proven himself to be the Best Muslim advocate in the West .</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40924/comment-page-1#comment-160118</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 16:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has that look in his eye and no doubt thoughts to the fact that Obama&#039;s another single term President like Jimmy Carter.  It&#039;s bye bye Obama, no matter how much money he raises which in my book is a &#039;good thing&#039; as Martha Stewart might say about one of her hot glue creations... : ))

Mr. Netanyahu is extremely bright, well-credentialed and tough.  Our President is simply an  &#039;articulate&#039; empty suit.  :  &#124;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has that look in his eye and no doubt thoughts to the fact that Obama&#8217;s another single term President like Jimmy Carter.  It&#8217;s bye bye Obama, no matter how much money he raises which in my book is a &#8216;good thing&#8217; as Martha Stewart might say about one of her hot glue creations&#8230; : ))</p>
<p>Mr. Netanyahu is extremely bright, well-credentialed and tough.  Our President is simply an  &#8216;articulate&#8217; empty suit.  :  |</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu</a></p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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