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		<title>By: oldguy</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40803/comment-page-1#comment-159164</link>
		<dc:creator>oldguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 02:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve been hearing for years that Americans want a third political party. Well, it isn&#039;t going to happen. This is America. You get what you pay for. Politics is expensive. And while Americans may want a third party they also want someone else to cough up the big bucks to support it. And why should the people with the money bother to do that when the Democrats and the Republicans are working so well for them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been hearing for years that Americans want a third political party. Well, it isn&#8217;t going to happen. This is America. You get what you pay for. Politics is expensive. And while Americans may want a third party they also want someone else to cough up the big bucks to support it. And why should the people with the money bother to do that when the Democrats and the Republicans are working so well for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Pondering_It_All</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40803/comment-page-1#comment-159146</link>
		<dc:creator>Pondering_It_All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 23:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All those people want &quot;a viable Third Party&quot; because they don&#039;t understand what popular third party candidates do in our system:  They almost always drain enough votes away from the mainstream party (R or D) presidential candidate they most resemble, to make the opposite party&#039;s candidate win.  This means that Third Party voters help elect the President they dislike the most!

You need a multiparty government system (like a Parliament with coalitions) to make Third (and Fourth, and Fifth) Parties work.  As long as we elect our President and Vice President from a single party, our executive branch will be an arm (or even the head) of the winning party.

It&#039;s only in Congress where we have a chance of Third Party candidates forming a winning coalition with one of the two mainstream parties, and that is exactly what we see with Tea Party + GOP, or Green + Bernie + Dems.  Of course, those Third Party congressmen are very rare because we elect a single winner in each district.  Change to porportional representation, and we would see all sorts of minority party groups in Congress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those people want &#8220;a viable Third Party&#8221; because they don&#8217;t understand what popular third party candidates do in our system:  They almost always drain enough votes away from the mainstream party (R or D) presidential candidate they most resemble, to make the opposite party&#8217;s candidate win.  This means that Third Party voters help elect the President they dislike the most!</p>
<p>You need a multiparty government system (like a Parliament with coalitions) to make Third (and Fourth, and Fifth) Parties work.  As long as we elect our President and Vice President from a single party, our executive branch will be an arm (or even the head) of the winning party.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only in Congress where we have a chance of Third Party candidates forming a winning coalition with one of the two mainstream parties, and that is exactly what we see with Tea Party + GOP, or Green + Bernie + Dems.  Of course, those Third Party congressmen are very rare because we elect a single winner in each district.  Change to porportional representation, and we would see all sorts of minority party groups in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40803/comment-page-1#comment-159128</link>
		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 19:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A timely article Zbignew Breszinski, of all folks...

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/36388]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A timely article Zbignew Breszinski, of all folks&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/36388" rel="nofollow">http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/36388</a></p>
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		<title>By: frank verismo</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40803/comment-page-1#comment-159108</link>
		<dc:creator>frank verismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 15:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My only slight departure from your view is where you&#039;ve lumped in the Ron Paul people with the blatant minions of the establishment. While it&#039;s perfectly true that it&#039;s the people, not any figurehead (Paul included) that will ultimately bring sanity back, RP has brought many vital issues out into the open. This is in complete contrast to the Palins and Gingriches of the world who are simply Washington versions of the Borg.

&quot;They have cowed this freshman crop of House members who were sent to restore the Constitution as the ONLY guide for federal policy. [choke]&quot;

As you imply, the real Constitution is an informed, engaged population incapable of being bull$h!tted. It&#039;s vital to have rights enshrined, but without a population actively living the freedoms laid out there it is indeed &#039;just a piece of paper&#039;.

And you&#039;re right - this is way bigger than politics.

 Frank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only slight departure from your view is where you&#8217;ve lumped in the Ron Paul people with the blatant minions of the establishment. While it&#8217;s perfectly true that it&#8217;s the people, not any figurehead (Paul included) that will ultimately bring sanity back, RP has brought many vital issues out into the open. This is in complete contrast to the Palins and Gingriches of the world who are simply Washington versions of the Borg.</p>
<p>&#8220;They have cowed this freshman crop of House members who were sent to restore the Constitution as the ONLY guide for federal policy. [choke]&#8221;</p>
<p>As you imply, the real Constitution is an informed, engaged population incapable of being bull$h!tted. It&#8217;s vital to have rights enshrined, but without a population actively living the freedoms laid out there it is indeed &#8216;just a piece of paper&#8217;.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right &#8211; this is way bigger than politics.</p>
<p> Frank</p>
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		<title>By: frank verismo</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40803/comment-page-1#comment-159101</link>
		<dc:creator>frank verismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 14:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Almandine - 
I hear what you&#039;re saying and would certainly have agreed myself a year or so ago. On reflection, a shared vision of direction may not only be an impossibility for 300 million people - it may actually not be necessary.

As more and more people see through the deceptions the deceivers become increasingly impotent. The more bs they try and foist upon the people the worse it becomes for them. The mainstream media daily commits slow suicide by refusing to engage with reality.

People intrinsically know what they want: the freedom to live their lives without undue interference, onerous taxation and a diet of lies. This simple demand bypasses all parties and allows all people their personal freedom - as per the fine principles America was founded on.

A beautiful, natural processs is unfolding here. While I would never advocate complacency it&#039;s becoming increasingly clear that the machine&#039;s days are numbered.

 Frank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Almandine &#8211;<br />
I hear what you&#8217;re saying and would certainly have agreed myself a year or so ago. On reflection, a shared vision of direction may not only be an impossibility for 300 million people &#8211; it may actually not be necessary.</p>
<p>As more and more people see through the deceptions the deceivers become increasingly impotent. The more bs they try and foist upon the people the worse it becomes for them. The mainstream media daily commits slow suicide by refusing to engage with reality.</p>
<p>People intrinsically know what they want: the freedom to live their lives without undue interference, onerous taxation and a diet of lies. This simple demand bypasses all parties and allows all people their personal freedom &#8211; as per the fine principles America was founded on.</p>
<p>A beautiful, natural processs is unfolding here. While I would never advocate complacency it&#8217;s becoming increasingly clear that the machine&#8217;s days are numbered.</p>
<p> Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 13:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank (and everybody else) the Tea Party movement is a grass roots movement of the people which the Ron Paul wonks and GOP hacks have tried to hijack.  Through little Saracuddah in there with them.

The biggest threat of the Tea Party &quot;movement&quot; is that is has no actual head, and no attacks on Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, or the proverbial &quot;racist religious right-wing bigot&quot; types will slow it down.

They are finding each other, exchanging information, talking behind your backs as the Committees of Correspondence did before the American War of Independence.

Have no illusions.  Obama and the GOP had better crack down quick on the First Amendment with some public crisis in a hurry, or they will both lose their positions in their little charade of governing with the &quot;consent of the governed.&quot;

I&#039;m sure they are already prepped to do so.  They have cowed this freshman crop of House members who were sent to restore the Constitution as the ONLY guide for federal policy.  [choke]

What stops the powers that be?  For one thing, we&#039;re armed.  For another, many are praying to the Supreme Judge of the Universe Jefferson referenced in the Declaration. [fools?]

Time will tell.  This is much bigger than politics.  Even Star Wars fans understand the cosmic struggle between dark and light.  Sad that many in our &quot;adult&quot; population do not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank (and everybody else) the Tea Party movement is a grass roots movement of the people which the Ron Paul wonks and GOP hacks have tried to hijack.  Through little Saracuddah in there with them.</p>
<p>The biggest threat of the Tea Party &#8220;movement&#8221; is that is has no actual head, and no attacks on Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, or the proverbial &#8220;racist religious right-wing bigot&#8221; types will slow it down.</p>
<p>They are finding each other, exchanging information, talking behind your backs as the Committees of Correspondence did before the American War of Independence.</p>
<p>Have no illusions.  Obama and the GOP had better crack down quick on the First Amendment with some public crisis in a hurry, or they will both lose their positions in their little charade of governing with the &#8220;consent of the governed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they are already prepped to do so.  They have cowed this freshman crop of House members who were sent to restore the Constitution as the ONLY guide for federal policy.  [choke]</p>
<p>What stops the powers that be?  For one thing, we&#8217;re armed.  For another, many are praying to the Supreme Judge of the Universe Jefferson referenced in the Declaration. [fools?]</p>
<p>Time will tell.  This is much bigger than politics.  Even Star Wars fans understand the cosmic struggle between dark and light.  Sad that many in our &#8220;adult&#8221; population do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40803/comment-page-1#comment-159099</link>
		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It also needs passengers who have a clear idea of where the ship needs to be headed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It also needs passengers who have a clear idea of where the ship needs to be headed.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 10:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suggest you read the story again. Gallup polled Americans of all political stripes (including independents) and found that &quot;a majority of Americans overall have wanted to see a third political party since 2006.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you read the story again. Gallup polled Americans of all political stripes (including independents) and found that &#8220;a majority of Americans overall have wanted to see a third political party since 2006.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: frank verismo</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank verismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 03:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Tea Party was formed to disgrace President Obama.&quot;

The Tea Party was formed by Ron Paul constitutionalists whose roots go back to before Obama was even a presidential candidate. The smart money always knew they would be hijacked and repackaged by the likes of Glenn Beck. This is the way genuine threats are dealt with.

Absorption - mutation - atrophy.

And with that in mind: how do you stop a two-party dictatorship from simply becoming a three-party dictatorship? The problem is not the lack of a third party - the problem is the system itself. Who would benefit most at this point in time from a third party? The very system that&#039;s screwing you.

The Titanic does not need a third deckchair. It needs a crew who are awake and interested in the welfare of its passengers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Tea Party was formed to disgrace President Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Tea Party was formed by Ron Paul constitutionalists whose roots go back to before Obama was even a presidential candidate. The smart money always knew they would be hijacked and repackaged by the likes of Glenn Beck. This is the way genuine threats are dealt with.</p>
<p>Absorption &#8211; mutation &#8211; atrophy.</p>
<p>And with that in mind: how do you stop a two-party dictatorship from simply becoming a three-party dictatorship? The problem is not the lack of a third party &#8211; the problem is the system itself. Who would benefit most at this point in time from a third party? The very system that&#8217;s screwing you.</p>
<p>The Titanic does not need a third deckchair. It needs a crew who are awake and interested in the welfare of its passengers.</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 01:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TRAPPED ???

Hardly... mesmerized by media spin and the &quot;omniscient&quot; pundits that tell us what to believe is more like it. 

And why not ? 47% of Detroit residents are functionally illiterate... what&#039;s the rate in your town?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRAPPED ???</p>
<p>Hardly&#8230; mesmerized by media spin and the &#8220;omniscient&#8221; pundits that tell us what to believe is more like it. </p>
<p>And why not ? 47% of Detroit residents are functionally illiterate&#8230; what&#8217;s the rate in your town?</p>
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