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GOP Presidential wannabes want to see bin Laden photos

By PHILIP ELLIOTT
May 6, 2011

Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty speaks to local residents during a breakfast meeting at a Pizza Ranch restaurant, Tuesday, May 3, 2011, in Ames, Iowa. (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)

Several Republican presidential hopefuls want President Barack Obama to release photos that prove U.S. forces killed Osama bin Laden during a covert raid in Pakistan, criticizing the Democrat’s decision-making just days after many praised him for getting the world’s most-wanted terrorist.

Texas Rep. Ron Paul said Thursday that he sides with transparency when there is public doubt. Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said “it would have been OK to release the photos.” And former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin accused Obama of “pussy-footing” on making the photos public.

It was a contrast to the initial words of commendation that came from many of Obama’s potential GOP rivals just hours after he announced that American forces had tracked down and shot to death the al-Qaida leader behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

By Thursday, some of Obama’s potential challengers were criticizing his decision to withhold photos of bin Laden’s corpse. Obama has likened the release of the photographs — they are privately described as gruesome by those who have seen them — to spiking a football in the end zone: not what the United States does.

At least one Republican hopeful in a still-forming field agreed. “It’s best not to release the photo because it has the potential to incite retaliatory violence against Americans,” former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said in a statement.

Critics say that releasing the photographs could inflame the nation’s enemies. But advocates say releasing the photos could counter conspiracy theories about whether bin Laden is, in fact, dead.

Five of the dozen or so Republicans considering candidacies were in South Carolina on Thursday for the first debate of the GOP nomination fight. Romney, Palin and the field’s other big names were skipping the event. Most of those participating barely register in polls, have limited appeal to the general public and have little chance of winning the nomination.

Participating were Pawlenty, Paul, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson and pizza magnate Herman Cain.

The Associated Press decided not to cover the debate to protest limits placed on media coverage by its organizers. Fox News Channel and the South Carolina Republican Party, the sponsors, are barring still photographers from entering the hall in Greenville, S.C., during the debate. That is a change from past debates, when Fox permitted still photographers greater access. Reuters also has told Fox and the South Carolina Republican Party that it will not accept such coverage restrictions.

In an interview before the debate, Paul pushed for the release of the bin Laden photos, saying that the various versions about what happened during the raid required the release of hard evidence.

“If something comes up and people are ambivalent, always lean toward openness,” said Paul, who also pushed for winding down the military’s operations in Afghanistan.

At a tea party rally in Greenville before the debate, Johnson declared: “We got Osama bin Laden, let’s get out of Afghanistan.”

Earlier this week in Iowa, Pawlenty weighed in on the photos, saying: “This is somebody who had no regard for the 3,000 or so Americans that he killed on 9/11 in horrific conditions; buildings crushing, people jumping out of windows … And somehow the notion that he and his followers would be offended by that, when they are, in fact, the purveyors of terror. I think it would have been OK to release the photos.”

Palin went further, posting this to her Twitter account: “Show photo as warning to others seeking America’s destruction. No pussy-footing around, no politicking, no drama; it’s part of the mission.”

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Associated Press writer Jim Davenport contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2011 The Associated Press

9 Responses to GOP Presidential wannabes want to see bin Laden photos

  1. Wayne K Dolik

    May 8, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    These Repub’s are acting like a bunch of woosies. The real outrage they should express is that, Bin Laden’s body was dumped in the ocean. Bin Laden should have been returned to the United States for a complete international forensic investigation to determine if he was Bin Laden. Scientists from our allies should have been invited here to do the autopsies and DNA examinations.

    Here’s a little history lesson on Bin Laden. Dec. 2001 Pres. Mushurrf says hes dead. Dec. 2001 Fox News says hes dead. Dec. 2001 Writer Peter Bergen says hes dead. July 18 FBI to BBC says hes dead. Oct 7 2002 Pres Karzai says hes dead. Nov. 2 2007 Pres. Bhutto says to David Frost hes dead.

  2. Wayne K Dolik

    May 8, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Corection on my post, FBI to BBC date was July 18 2002. Forgot to list the year.

  3. Almandine

    May 8, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Conspiracy Wayne ???

    Get him DOUG !!!

  4. bogofree

    May 8, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I’ve never killed a man, but I’ve read many an obituary with a great deal of satisfaction.

    Mark Twain

  5. Sandune

    May 9, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Apparently nothing President Obama can do will appease the American people who want him to fail big time.

    This is our nation at stake, not some dog pound leader. Could it be that we, who hang on the information from the internet, could not find the truth if we stepped in it. We see our media playing to the lies and distrusts of both sides of the aisle to simply bring their ratings up.

    In our desire to trash our leaders, we believe anything that is said about them. There is a conservative site who is trying to research the number of wives Obama’s father had. Hell my great grandfather had six wives which was the religion known as the Latter Day Saints. Would this make me a Mormon or even a Muslim?

    Even in my new paradise here, there are well-off women who spend their free hours reading the Koran to find justification for killing Muslims. These are very strong Christians and somehow they feel it is their responsibility to keep the wars going. I found this in Arizona where too many people in Sun City wanted all of Islam destroyed. This is Hitler to the core. Is this the new voice of Christianity?

    Yes, the Koran is a call for wars against the infidels but the New Testament is being interpreted as the same thing. Missionaries for Jesus Christ have brought in members which was their mission. But the numbers tend to become smaller as people try to understand the basic philosophy of the leaders.

    Will America have to choose one brand of Christianity where all can agree who to destroy? . Will America have to chose a race or sexual preference before we end up destroying ourselves? For nearly 300 years of American freedoms why do we still have this manic fear of diversity?

    Our elections are now “on” 24/7 where we can dig up dirt on anyone who even looks like a candidate. How do we judge the good guys from the bad?

    Who is moving this racism that used to be found in our transportation units or zip code areas of our homes and now has become a reason to either leave or stay in Arizona? Have our buses gotten over the black in the back? Have the usually white neighborhoods finally gotten over having black people living there?

    This attitude of arrogance found in many White Republican Americans is how we are seen in other nations. This attitude is how we see each other living in the same areas. .

    Before we start our own street wars as we have seen in Egypt, Libya and throughout the Middle East is there any way of tracing this horrible propaganda of hatred in America? I realize Fox News picked up this attitude made popular by the Birch Society but what the hell triggered the lies and deception being blasted on the radio, newspapers and television stations?

    It looks from my position of a secular look at the world, is that the basic Christian movement since the end of WW2 involves killing the opposition. Watching 3 minutes of Fox found 4 people literally drooling at the thought of torturing Muslims. They are like little kids trying to set fire to a kitten. It is a segment of America that makes me physically sick.

    We all demand full exposure of our treatment of the enemy and even of each other but the lack of trust and respect is gone! The unintended consequences of allowing OBL to be taken into custody was carefully discussed and determined that it would be better for all Americans to know that the promise of getting him was done and finished!

    We have elected some very disreputable leaders who have lied us into wars that we could not win. Every 2 to 4 years we listen to promises that are not even possible. We expect a well-thought out agenda to be attempted but when the agenda ends up hurting the majority of the American people, we should learn from our mistakes.

    Obama’s agenda was not what I wanted so I did not vote for him. The health care of the Clinton’s was not what wanted so I did not vote for her. After looking at the support for Sen. McCain, I most certainly did not vote for him. The Republican Party has become an insult to American freedoms. But the most shocking fright has been the attitude of the people who have tasted the blood of crusades where the art of killing beats the art of negotiation.

    I am a dedicated Atheist but after listening to the crap coming from the candidates of both parties, I felt a closer tie to Gov. Huckabee. Was he a real Christian or was he a clone of something Fox dreamed up. He turned on Obama as if he had trapped a rat in a cage. He reached out to the lies being told by the religious right and that did it for me. There is no right over wrong with any of these people. The use Jesus Christ as a weapon against each other. They will not stop until gays and women learn their place in America.

  6. Carl Nemo

    May 9, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Ms. Price it seems you are eternally disappointed in that you cannot find someone to ‘lead’ this nation out of the valley of the shadow of its seeming, imminent death…no?

    There are none. Once a man or woman aspires to achieving power over others, they’ve verily compromised their abilities of discernment and have been easily corrupted by the siren call for the acquisition of evermore power over his or her brethren. They are all suspect in my book.

    *****

    “The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern.” … Lord Acton

    *****

    Carl Nemo **==

  7. frank verismo

    May 9, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    “Apparently nothing President Obama can do will appease the American people who want him to fail big time. ”

    My only wish is to see the American people fail to be continually deceived. It’s the people – not the president – that will restore sanity to America. An educated, enlightened population has little, if any need for political saviours.

    “For nearly 300 years of American freedoms why do we still have this manic fear of diversity?”

    Keeping the nation fractured is paramount where control is concerned. As long as the population can be persuaded to fight each other they will not focus their collective sights on the real enemy.

    “Our elections are now “on” 24/7 where we can dig up dirt on anyone who even looks like a candidate. How do we judge the good guys from the bad?”

    Keep in mind that we have the freedom to vote for any of the choices groomed for us by the establishment. Then look out for the ones who don’t shrink from discussing such awkward issues. You won’t find many, but they do exist.

    “We have elected some very disreputable leaders who have lied us into wars that we could not win.”

    Nor should we win them. They were sold on an entirely false prospectus. The Middle Eastern nations naturally enough do not wish to see the imposition of a single political/economic system on the entire globe, therefore they are in the way. Huge, orchestrated lies must therefore be constructed as a smokescreen to hide this fact. The ambitions of the financial powers of this world seldom if ever coincide with the wishes of the millions who live under their system.

    Should you doubt the veracity of the above I would simply suggest you ask yourself the following questions:
    1 Why has our manufacturing base been shipped out to the Far East?
    2 Why are we involved in continuous, multiple wars in the Middle East?
    3 Why was so much blatant and ultimately ruinous financial malpractice not only allowed but encouraged?

    Of course, corporate media seeks answers to such questions in isolation: to pretend that they are not intimately bound up with one another. But they are – at core, the answer is the same in every case.

    “I am a dedicated Atheist but after listening to the crap coming from the candidates of both parties, I felt a closer tie to Gov. Huckabee. Was he a real Christian or was he a clone of something Fox dreamed up.”

    You’re touching on the awful truth here. These are indeed creations of the media. Slightly more real that Spongebob – but not by a margin worth talking about.

  8. Carl Nemo

    May 9, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    After a lenghty hiatus from the site Frank , it’s a pleasure to read your incisive commentary again, as always. : )

    Carl Nemo **==

  9. frank verismo

    May 11, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Thanks, Carl. I tend to spend most of my time in the trenches – places where any real insight is in the shortest supply. Yourself, Woody and others do a fine job of flying the flag of sanity here on CHB. I’ll continue to swing by occasionally simply to enjoy your posts.

    Frank