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		<title>By: Lillibet</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40647/comment-page-1#comment-157171</link>
		<dc:creator>Lillibet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 20:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice to see you too, Sandy. 

I agree with your assessment about the racism.  My only concern with the birth certificate issue was that Obama has spent a lot of lawyer time, even to the Supreme Court level, keeping the document in a vault. 

What does it say about priorities in spending?  Just release the darned thing.  

I also expect that every candidate for the office of President of the USA will supply his/her birth certificate in 2012, because the Constitution says that everyone sitting in the Oval Office has to have proof of their special circumstances of birth according to the Constitution.  Those requirements do no apply for Senators, Representatives or even the Supreme Court.  Only the President must show their paperwork, as also applies to the Vice President. 

Now, below here Carl has raised the other questions about Obama&#039;s family ties to the alphabets of Foggy Bottom and Beyond.  Such questions cannot be answered by a birth certificate.  

As this question regarding this article is only the certificate, well those other questions continue.   They should be answered.  After all, we have known every game played by George W&#039;s various school teams where he was a cheerleader, and have been acquainted for decades with his family and forebears, including a few pesky arrests involving trading and enemies.  We know the same about Reagan, the Kennedy&#039;s and Truman.  In fact, it is not until very recently that some questions have become &quot;off limits&#039; because of alleged racism.

Heck, if the guy (or gal) with their finger on the button, their eye on the football, or their head in the clouds of thinking that the US is in charge of the world is not Constitutionally allowed to be sitting in the office, then it is not racism.  It is smart.  It is needed.  Candor never goes out of style, and seeking honest revelations about the past of those who want to run the government is not a luxury.  These days, it is a necessity.

Oh, and if you are wondering, I do live in a building in Chicago where I am in a 1 percent minority.  You figure it out.  I love it here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see you too, Sandy. </p>
<p>I agree with your assessment about the racism.  My only concern with the birth certificate issue was that Obama has spent a lot of lawyer time, even to the Supreme Court level, keeping the document in a vault. </p>
<p>What does it say about priorities in spending?  Just release the darned thing.  </p>
<p>I also expect that every candidate for the office of President of the USA will supply his/her birth certificate in 2012, because the Constitution says that everyone sitting in the Oval Office has to have proof of their special circumstances of birth according to the Constitution.  Those requirements do no apply for Senators, Representatives or even the Supreme Court.  Only the President must show their paperwork, as also applies to the Vice President. </p>
<p>Now, below here Carl has raised the other questions about Obama&#8217;s family ties to the alphabets of Foggy Bottom and Beyond.  Such questions cannot be answered by a birth certificate.  </p>
<p>As this question regarding this article is only the certificate, well those other questions continue.   They should be answered.  After all, we have known every game played by George W&#8217;s various school teams where he was a cheerleader, and have been acquainted for decades with his family and forebears, including a few pesky arrests involving trading and enemies.  We know the same about Reagan, the Kennedy&#8217;s and Truman.  In fact, it is not until very recently that some questions have become &#8220;off limits&#8217; because of alleged racism.</p>
<p>Heck, if the guy (or gal) with their finger on the button, their eye on the football, or their head in the clouds of thinking that the US is in charge of the world is not Constitutionally allowed to be sitting in the office, then it is not racism.  It is smart.  It is needed.  Candor never goes out of style, and seeking honest revelations about the past of those who want to run the government is not a luxury.  These days, it is a necessity.</p>
<p>Oh, and if you are wondering, I do live in a building in Chicago where I am in a 1 percent minority.  You figure it out.  I love it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandune</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40647/comment-page-1#comment-157162</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 18:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The birther movement is based on racial bigotry.  When this tea party stuff started making the rounds on the &#039;net, I had people admit that they were uncomfortable with a black family in the white house,  There was no trust that any one of them would destroy our culture in an act of retrobution for slavery.  15 minutes of Rush on the radio brought out the ugliness that had been hidden for many years.  I went on my own crusade of exposure on this subject and found it in my extended family, neighbors, and very open in the religious right.  

My own kids were free of this racism as they spent many years at Berkeley where students were judged by their accomplishments, not their color.  I warned them both about the drugs that would destroy their minds and brains during their early training years.  Once they were out of the university, working for their own incomes, they could do whatever they wanted.  Color was never mentioned.  

America is still knee deep in racism and it will take another couple of generations to weed this crap out of their minds.  

Hi Lillibet!  Nice to see you back.

Sandy Price]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The birther movement is based on racial bigotry.  When this tea party stuff started making the rounds on the &#8216;net, I had people admit that they were uncomfortable with a black family in the white house,  There was no trust that any one of them would destroy our culture in an act of retrobution for slavery.  15 minutes of Rush on the radio brought out the ugliness that had been hidden for many years.  I went on my own crusade of exposure on this subject and found it in my extended family, neighbors, and very open in the religious right.  </p>
<p>My own kids were free of this racism as they spent many years at Berkeley where students were judged by their accomplishments, not their color.  I warned them both about the drugs that would destroy their minds and brains during their early training years.  Once they were out of the university, working for their own incomes, they could do whatever they wanted.  Color was never mentioned.  </p>
<p>America is still knee deep in racism and it will take another couple of generations to weed this crap out of their minds.  </p>
<p>Hi Lillibet!  Nice to see you back.</p>
<p>Sandy Price</p>
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		<title>By: Lillibet</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40647/comment-page-1#comment-157155</link>
		<dc:creator>Lillibet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 17:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see asking someone for a birth certificate a big deal.  It was a much smaller deal in 2008.  Had the certificate been provided, as had been done by all the other candidates including McCain&#039;s as his birth in the Canal Zone in Panama was possibly not on US soil, it would have died its truly well deserved death at the time.  When the second Million$ were spent on keeping the certificate locked in some Hawaii vault, or wherever, it became a much bigger deal yet again.  When it was released with a bad history of scanning and lots of loopholes for the nutcase evaluators to yell about, bigger deal yet again.

Truth is, it should have been done years ago.  It was finally done.  &#039;Nuff said. 

I just want to know why they spent so much money on the secrecy. 

As for racism, I was just asked for my &quot;papers&#039; on the El.  I didn&#039;t have them on me.  I am now at home, and not riding the El for the near future as my ID disappeared when I was at a police station complaining about identity theft.

Talk about irony.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see asking someone for a birth certificate a big deal.  It was a much smaller deal in 2008.  Had the certificate been provided, as had been done by all the other candidates including McCain&#8217;s as his birth in the Canal Zone in Panama was possibly not on US soil, it would have died its truly well deserved death at the time.  When the second Million$ were spent on keeping the certificate locked in some Hawaii vault, or wherever, it became a much bigger deal yet again.  When it was released with a bad history of scanning and lots of loopholes for the nutcase evaluators to yell about, bigger deal yet again.</p>
<p>Truth is, it should have been done years ago.  It was finally done.  &#8216;Nuff said. </p>
<p>I just want to know why they spent so much money on the secrecy. </p>
<p>As for racism, I was just asked for my &#8220;papers&#8217; on the El.  I didn&#8217;t have them on me.  I am now at home, and not riding the El for the near future as my ID disappeared when I was at a police station complaining about identity theft.</p>
<p>Talk about irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40647/comment-page-1#comment-157148</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry. I don&#039;t drink.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. I don&#8217;t drink.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Griffith aka Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40647/comment-page-1#comment-157074</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Griffith aka Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 02:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatever you say, editor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you say, editor.</p>
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		<title>By: bogofree</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40647/comment-page-1#comment-157064</link>
		<dc:creator>bogofree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 23:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d put him on double secret probation.  Relax boys.  Have a beer on me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d put him on double secret probation.  Relax boys.  Have a beer on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 19:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typical. I catch you in another case of doublespeak and you avoid the issue. You claim we didn&#039;t have a story about Bernanke and I point out that you blew it and you avoid the issue entirely.

Saying you&#039;re bitter is an attack? Talk about double-standard. That&#039;s mild compared to some of the garbage you&#039;ve thrown at people here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typical. I catch you in another case of doublespeak and you avoid the issue. You claim we didn&#8217;t have a story about Bernanke and I point out that you blew it and you avoid the issue entirely.</p>
<p>Saying you&#8217;re bitter is an attack? Talk about double-standard. That&#8217;s mild compared to some of the garbage you&#8217;ve thrown at people here.</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 18:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[14 years of residency is an additional, not substitute, requirement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14 years of residency is an additional, not substitute, requirement.</p>
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		<title>By: bogofree</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40647/comment-page-1#comment-157027</link>
		<dc:creator>bogofree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 17:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Article 2, Section one, it states that someone can be president if they &#039;have been a 14 years resident within the United States.&#039; This caused some issue with Herbert Hoover since it was never defined if it is 14 years total or consecutive. Obviously it was not a birther issue but a residency issue but it represented a similar attempt to question the legitimacy of a president. 

From what I have been able to view the roots of this whole issue trace back to Hillary Clinton die-hards who were enraged over the Obama nomination. The Clinton campaign never made an issue of it but the dissidents did after the nomination.  - In fact the first birther lawsuit was started by a democrat and Clinton supporter - Phillip Berg.  Is he and Clinton supporters racists? 

Now does the documents released in 2008 and 2011 meet the standards? From what I have read they do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Article 2, Section one, it states that someone can be president if they &#8216;have been a 14 years resident within the United States.&#8217; This caused some issue with Herbert Hoover since it was never defined if it is 14 years total or consecutive. Obviously it was not a birther issue but a residency issue but it represented a similar attempt to question the legitimacy of a president. </p>
<p>From what I have been able to view the roots of this whole issue trace back to Hillary Clinton die-hards who were enraged over the Obama nomination. The Clinton campaign never made an issue of it but the dissidents did after the nomination.  &#8211; In fact the first birther lawsuit was started by a democrat and Clinton supporter &#8211; Phillip Berg.  Is he and Clinton supporters racists? </p>
<p>Now does the documents released in 2008 and 2011 meet the standards? From what I have read they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Griffith aka Griff</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/40647/comment-page-1#comment-157017</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Griffith aka Griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee, I guess personal attacks on posters here doesn&#039;t apply when you get a bug up your ass. You&#039;re a class act, Doug. A class act. Do as I say, not as I do.

Maybe you&#039;re the one that needs a break.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I guess personal attacks on posters here doesn&#8217;t apply when you get a bug up your ass. You&#8217;re a class act, Doug. A class act. Do as I say, not as I do.</p>
<p>Maybe you&#8217;re the one that needs a break.</p>
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