Democracy at work or still the same old mess?

On the surface, the massive crowds that descended on the Wisconsin State Capital in Madison Saturday to protest for and against Gov. Scott Walker’s plan to limit union bargaining powers and other rights is Democracy in action.

The voters flexed their muscles, showed their colors, debated the issue and — for the most part –did so with incredible civility — something we don’t see a  lot of in American politics, government or society these days.

But the stalemate remains. Walker is not budging. The Democrats are staying away from Madison. Nothing is changing. As The Associated Press reports:  “It took Scott Walker only a few weeks to push the Capitol into political chaos.”

Is this Democracy in action or government out of control?

In Washington, the Tea Party-spawned and unruly Republican freshman who now swarm the House of Representatives like roaches, gutted domestic spending — while protecting America’s precious war machine — and served notice to Speaker of the House John Boehner that as far as they’re concerned it is they — not him — who run things.

And so far they have had things pretty much their own way.

Of course, every one of the extreme bills that emerge from the House like political diarrhea will get flushed down the toilet by the Democratically-controlled Senate.

What we’re up against here folks is political and governmental Armageddon: The grand recapture of government fantasy foisted on a gullible electorate by Tea Party operatives and their co-conspirators has brought what little government we had left to a standstill.

Meanwhile, more and more Americans lose jobs, more and more families lose their homes in foreclosures and more and more big corporations get rich off a system that rewards corruption and abuse of power.

This is change?

11 Responses to "Democracy at work or still the same old mess?"

  1. Almandine  February 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Reminds of the old TV commercial line, “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing.”

    While we would likely not know democracy if we were hit by a truckload of it, the Wisconsin event seems about as close as we’re going to get, and some would say that the govt is being brought under control, after having acted like little more than drunken sailors on shore leave in Tijuana for the last umpteen years.

    Maybe we should think of the freshmen as shore patrol dispatched to round up the hooligans. Only after getting most of that done will the ability of the crew to sail the ship be brought back on line. More and more of the crew are jumping ship daily; perhaps that bodes well for the future.

  2. Carl Nemo  February 20, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    “Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension. It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.”

    ***

    “A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.”

    ***

    “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. … the day is bound to come when they will be hanged by the people of the whole world…. three quotes from Mao Zedong “The Little Red Book”

    ***

    Chairman Mao was actually a wise man for his time and the Rx for his people post generations of exploitation by Westerners and unfriendlies in the Orient such as Japan. The Revolution was a necessity. Unfortunately modern Chinese leaders have been corrupted by the corrosive influence of Western “pirate capitalism” and have fallen in love with acquisition of the “almighty yuan” no different than the West with their love affair of the same in dollars, euro’s or shekels. They’ve lost their steerage too and little realize their embracing of technology run amok has fouled their air, water, the general environment all to the hazard of their people as a whole.

    Our government both national to local runs roughshod over the people not because of its authority vested in the Constitution and body of laws derived thereof, but through the threat of summary sanctions against the people via a now militarized nationwide police force and a military to do its unholy bidding if necessary. It’s even evident at the state, county and city level too in many jurisdictions.

    Rest assured they will grind their boots of tyranny on our necks until we cry “uncle’ or simply expire. They do not give up easily. An object as well as negative ideas and social constructs have inertia and will remain in motion unless acted upon by an outside force.

    They’ve got the people exactly where they want them; ie., between a rock and a hard place; ie., two compromised political parties that now act in the interests of the shadowy corpo-fascists, while elections and the ballot box hoping to turn things about are like watching paint dry. They also control the money supply to suit their ends of forcing people to do their bidding.

    It will take either a strong leader who still loves his/her nation; ie., a Teddy Roosevelt personality or the luck of a natural disaster that will force a sea change in national policies incuding the curtailment of the expansive influence of “Empire Americanus”, otherwise we are doomed…period!

    *****

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson

    ****

    Both Chairman Mao and Thomas Jefferson have much in common regardless of the differences in cultures and the unique pressing problems instigated by parasites in high places over time.

    No, I’m not a bloody communist or am I encouraging immediate revolution, but simply giving people a heads up as to what it might take to change the order of the day. Rest assured the evil forces that have gotten this nation into our current fix will not give up easily. They’ve spent nigh near a hundred years forging ahead with their schemes for a “New World Order”. They definitely know their seeming unlimited limit and will utilize the power that comes from the muzzle of a gun if necessary.

    People in Wisconsin best beware because things can ugly real fast and without a plan even their state government will enjoy summarily crushing them beneath their jackboots of tyranny. My aforedescribed national plight is being foreshadowed by these soon to become, quite regular state based revolutions. States can’t print their own money as our our Federal government, now simply legally enfranchised counterfeiters run amok. Government at all levels no longer represent the people, but simply mandate evermore ruinous schemes and legislation upon them. There is to be no dialogue, but simply rabid anarchy hatching forth from many years of irresponsibility and corruption in government at all levels.

    Carl Nemo **

    • Carl Nemo  February 20, 2011 at 6:31 pm

      Carl Nemo ** should read: Carl Nemo **==

      My apologies. Every piece of writing I contribute to the www has my stars and bars signature. If it’s not signed as such then it’s not me…beware! There are other Carl Nemo’s posting on the web along with “Facebook” profiles and participation in various sites. I have no public profile displayed on the www.

      Carl Nemo **==

  3. JerryG  February 20, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    It’s easy to quote founders in an attempt to link “then” with “now”. For example, Jefferson was a proponent of the concept that ‘change the law and you change the social system; alter the social system and the law must be adjusted’ (Saul K. Padover – Jefferson, A Great American’s Life & Ideas). Clearly, there are numerous instances in our democracy when this principle has been evidenced. (Figure it out for yourself)

    So how does this all relate to Wisconsin? Perhaps this is one of those instances where an attempt to change the law (by the Governor & Legislature) is designed to alter the social system (collective bargaining) for the purposes of preserving the welfare and economic future of the State. After all, one could easily argue the opposite occured when collective bargaining was born in WI seventy or so years ago. Was that not an example of the social altering the law?

    Now all that being said I totally think the Governor of WI is a total tool and GOP douche! :)

  4. b mcclellan  February 20, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    If democracy wasn’t such a mess,
    everyone would enjoy it’s dwindling possibilities.

    Pop said,
    the knaves heart has a short memory..Don’t hire em.
    Make it a good one for the brave to come home too.

    Anyone notice a lack of, ” War Angst ” across the universe ?

    Where are the tea dudes and dudettes picketing the Pentagon ?

    Sleeping in the office of irrelevance, we don’t tax, we take re-po.
    If this is back to conservatism in the flesh, I hope all their leather couches sweat.
    This is change, old or new has nothing to say what type,
    take the change or donate it.. Ollirb.

    • woody188  February 24, 2011 at 11:20 am

      When the Iraq conflict started, people in my office quite literally cheered and ran around giving each other high-fives and patting themselves on their backs. Mind you not a single one of them ever served in the military, and a few were foreigners from Israel, England, and Bulgaria. They were elated with the bombing of Iraq.

      My one friend and myself were the only people somber and sick to our stomachs thinking another war has begun. We went to the Federal Building in downtown Columbus that Saturday and stood outside with signs and flags in protest with about 7 other students from Ohio State. Armed guards came out of the Federal building and we were soon surrounded by Columbus Police for daring to peacefully protest a war on public property outside a Federal building.

      What does this tell you about our country?

      • griff  February 24, 2011 at 11:26 am

        It tells you we love death.

  5. Carl Nemo  February 20, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    “Anyone notice a lack of, ” War Angst ” across the universe ?”

    “Where are the tea dudes and dudettes picketing the Pentagon ?” …extract from post

    Excellent observation Bryan. Seemingly endless engineered wars fomented through political corruption; I.E., the Cheney~Feith~Wolfowitz cooked “intel” pipeline concerning WMD’s has no effect on creating mass public outrage, even if delayed, to ending our involvement in both Iraq and Afghanistan, immediately if not sooner.

    It must be the water and the mass dispensation of antidepressants. Then too it may be that many are people playing first person shoot’em up video war games or those named “World of Warcraft” on the www and other such ‘entertaining; but not personally deadly endeavors that have moved us down the slippery slope of rendering war to that of a banal endeavor in our times.

    Death as a function of war has become an abstraction for lazy-thoughted, non-threatened ‘fatcats’ in the U.S. / : |

    Carl Nemo**==

    • Almandine  February 20, 2011 at 11:39 pm

      Death as a function of war has become an abstraction for everyone except the 2.5 million or so service men and women and the vets who have been there and done that. So that must make about 300 million US residents without a clue. For the fatcat perspective, there are 120 members of Congress who are combat vets.

      A big problem we face is the notion that “national security” is tantamount to military power. Even the uninitiated should not fall for that one.

    • griff  February 24, 2011 at 11:26 am

      I’ve been asking all along…Where’s Code Pink?

  6. DownriverDem  February 25, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    Where will the tea bagging repubs be after all of us are kicked to the curb? I never dreamed I would grow up and watch my country be destroyed by by greedy, mean, racist, angry white folks. (I am white)

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