Share on Facebook Follow on Facebook Add to Google+ Connect on Linked in Subscribe by Email Print This Post The Web Finds Ron Paul, and Takes Him for a Ride – With the help of the Internet, Ron Paul’s quest to become president has taken on a life of its own. [Washington News] Share this:FacebookTwitterLinkedInEmailPrintGoogle Ron Paul’s wild ride added by on November 11, 2007 View all posts by → 9 Responses to "Ron Paul’s wild ride" Sandra Price November 11, 2007 at 11:34 am Paul is getting great attention from the younger generation but will they vote? Most love the attention they get from campaigning but probably will not vote. We have seen this for many elections and it is sad to realize that those of us who really want a change in our government will be disappointed (again) that the supporters gave up before election day. I remember going door to door in 1964 for Goldwater and had established a strong commitment in my district for Senator Goldwater. A week after the final count it turned out that few in my district even voted. 2008 may be the last chance at getting our government out of the hands of the users and abusers and back to the American people themselves. Please don’t give promises you cannot fulfill. The day before the election in 1964 even Las Vegas was calling for a Goldwater win. It may have been the greatest defeat I have ever witnessed. We have no honest choices in 2008 as everyone running, with the exception of Ron Paul, has delusions of grandeur for themselves to lead the world under their leadership. The voters need involvement in these one world fools and this may be our only chance. Paolo November 11, 2007 at 10:12 pm Here’s a thought: the reason I like Ron Paul for President is precisely because he’s not a “leader” in the conventionally understood sense. I don’t want to have a “leader” as president. (“Leader” by the way, translates to German as “Fuehrer”–Adolph Hitler’s title). Per the Constitution, the President is supposed to be an Executive, or an Administrator. He is not supposed to a “Leader” with broad, undefined powers like starting wars in far-flung foreign lands, or violating the Fourth Amendment through unauthorized wiretaps. A great president must be tremendously disciplined and extraordinarily humble. If a situation comes up in which he has the choice of being a “Leader” by (let us say) invading Iran without an explicit declaration of war, he has to have the discipline to say, “I have no such power, according to the Constitution. Therefore, I will not invade.” Ron Paul is the only candidate I’ve ever seen who would act constitutionally in all situations. Heck, he’s probably the only one with a passing knowledge OF the Constitution. To the other candidates, the Constitution is just (to quote GWB) a “god-damned piece of paper.” Sandra Price November 12, 2007 at 2:26 pm Very Good Post Paolo! I agree with everything you wrote. Many Americans want a President who won’t bother them with facts and will act as they see fit. Well we had some of those and we got in big trouble. We can trust him! He actually uses the U.S. Constitution……… DejaVuAllOver November 12, 2007 at 4:18 pm A big part of the problem is that people of this country have forgotten what a LEADER is, because we haven’t had one in so long. A REAL LEADER is someone who SHAPES and MOLDS PUBLIC OPINION, like a Churchill or FDR. They are intelligent, eloquent, can back up their positions with FACTS, and can persuade those with less time and/or intelligence on the real issues at hand. Contrast that to complete losers like Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton and/or our satanic GOP operatives. These zeros are too busy looking at polls to exercise the leadership ability of zucchini. No offense to zucchini intended. Jim C November 12, 2007 at 9:15 pm While Ron Paul supporters keep yammering on about how he is for the constitution , they don’t mention he’s also for deregulatinng everything . I just can’t wait for him to take the rules off our corporations so they can work their free market magic ” goody ” I can’t wait to see how well that works out . He also wants to do away with pretty much all government agencys , goodby drug regulations , goodby clean water , goodby safe food , goodby breathable air, goodby workplace safty , goodby child labor laws , so long forty hour work week and overtime regulations . I’m sure it will be exciting to see how well our newly deregulated private health care system will care for us all , I’m sure the care will be just super ( you do know the constitution doesn’t address those issues ) so who cares right ? He’ll turn social programs over to the states , I’m sure that’ll work out great , as long as you’re not poor or in need that is . He says he won’t privatize social security , just let anyone who wants opt out . I bet that will work out just fine , I’m sure you’re just itching to try your luck in the market , can’t lose right ? Who wants to retire anyway . He’d like to sell off the national parks and beachs , ah yes ” from polluted sea to clearcut forest ” ( I bet those giant redwoods are worth a bundle ) , privatize the highway system and roads , I’ve always wanted to own the highway in front of my house and all I’ll have to do is out bid Exon or maybe Enron , no problem . I’m sure if by chance I can’t they’ll take good care of things , just like they always do . happy motoring everybody . One more little question for your straight shooting , no nonsense hero , where exactly does he stand on impeachment ????? Strangly I haven’t heard a peep out of Mr ” I’m for the constitution ” Paul on the subject . You do realize the constitution clearly demands it in circumstances just like these ( it is mentioned six , count em six times ) . So when is he going to speak up and demand it , just like in the constitution says . Or perhaps he doesn’t see any high crimes and misdemeaners being commited by this torturing , lying , wiretapping administration ( of his own party ) who lied us into an illegal invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation . Maybe he hasn’t noticed , I’m sure if he had he would be outraged at the shreading the very document he portends to cherish , and wants to strictly follow . OK , lets hear it , I can’t wait for the mindless rationalizing buried in gibberish I’m sure will be forthcoming . history guy November 12, 2007 at 9:37 pm Jim, I’m sure the socialist workers party will give you what you want and deserve in regards to complete government control of business, health care, retirement and every aspect of your life. God knows we can’t survive without government oversight and protection. Why don’t you want to impeach the Congress that approved everyone of the items you mentioned? Thats why there is no push from anyone in Congress for impeachment. Paul was one of the few that voted against all of the items you mention. I hope this qualifies as “mindless rationalizing buried in gibberish” for you. Paolo November 12, 2007 at 11:55 pm Jim C lays out quite a laundry list of objections to Ron Paul. Rather than address all of them (which would take too long), let’s just address one of them. In fact, if you can think in terms of principles, the same principles apply to all his objections. “I’m sure it will be exciting to see how well our newly deregulated private health care system will care for us all , I’m sure the care will be just super ( you do know the constitution doesn’t address those issues ) so who cares right ?” Jim, you’ve really got to work on your sentence structure. I say this in all kindness, with no sarcasm intended at all. Regarding health care: It is simply a product or service, no different in principle from any other product or service. All consumers, in a free society, benefit from the market providing an incredible variety of choices. Where free markets are allowed to operate, for example, we get a huge variety of choices in automobiles: economy cars, luxury cars, SUV’s, pickup trucks, and so forth. In socialist, controlled societies, like East Germany (which I had the privilege to visit before it fell), you get one car choice: the smoke-belching, underpowered, poorly engineered Trabant. And you had to wait at least a couple of years to be allowed to buy one! (If this sounds like socialized health care in Canada or England, the parallels are not accidental). Our current health care system is already, unfortunately, largely a state-corporatist run operation: you get government-approved medicine, AMA “approved” treatments, and marginalization of any “fringe” (that is, diverse) practitioners such as chiropractors, herbalists, naturopaths, acupuncture practitioners, and so forth. The typical socialist “solution” is simply to make the already socialized medical system even more so! Underlying all this, of course, is the assumption that the ENLIGHTENED leaders in Washington, along with the ENLIGHTENED AMA, will “regulate” away everything (that is, remove choices) they disapprove of. The only “regulation” that should exist (if you can even call it “regulation”) is that practitioners who cause harm should be prosecuted. Those who provide services to happy customers, who have no injuries or complaints, should not be prosecuted or “regulated.” Regulation, my friend, is not designed to protect the consumer. History shows us that regulation is designed to protect already-established businesses against upstart, creative competitors. This is the whole sordid history of the AMA, a government-approved guild that has long fought to protect its own turf against any form of competition whatsoever. Jim C November 13, 2007 at 8:27 am I appreciate your concern about my sentence structure , I shall certainly try harder . May I ask what exactly east Germany has to do with anything ? Perhaps if you had traveled instead to say , Sweden , modern Germany , France or any other country that has universal health care the merits of such systems would have been more obvious . You of course realize we’re 37th in healthcare outcome ( right behind I believe Peru ) but number one in cost , twice the cost of the nearest competitor . ” I’m sure the socialist workers party will give you what you want and deserve in regards to complete government control of business, health care, retirement and every aspect of your life. God knows we can’t survive without government oversight and protection ” . Sorry , I’m not going to run in terror from your socialist boogie man . Ah yes , the wonders of unregulated capitalism , you’ll have to excuse me if I’m in no hurry to get back to the good old free market days of the late 1800’s and early 1900’s . You understand that many of the rights workers enjoy today , the forty hour work week , worker saftey rules , child labor laws , overtime rules and many more came from the platform of the early american socialist party that were adopted by the democratic party . Your replys were exactly what I expected . Vague , nebulous blather attacking my points without actually responding to them . So how about answering this one . If your hero ” I’m going to follow the constitution ” Paul is serious , what about impeachment ? Why not a word ? Is it his opinion that this crowds actions don’t warrant it ? If not , what exacty would be the threshold ? If these guys haven’t reached it would seem to be unatainable would it not , the framers were quite clear on the subject , they mentioned it six times . Could it be that he will follow the constitution as long as its politically expedient and fits his ideology ? I sure you’ll clear this up , I can’t wait . Jim C November 13, 2007 at 9:15 am One more minor point . ” Regulation, my friend, is not designed to protect the consumer. History shows us that regulation is designed to protect already-established businesses against upstart, creative competitors “. I will swear to work on my sentence stucture if you will promise to brush up on the history of regulation . You might start with the meat packing industry . Then move on to auto safety , clean water regulations and product safety rules etc , business fought every necessary regulation tooth and nail , no matter how vile and obvious the problem . I would have thought that one who has traveled to east Germany would understand only too well the problems with unregulated industry .The fact of the matter is an industry has to be way over the line and then some to get regulated , history shows that only too well . To most business’s human life and welfare is only an abstract piece of their cost analysis . Have a good day my friend .