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Abercrombie to birthers: I’m gonna prove you wrong

By DOUG THOMPSON
December 26, 2010

Neil Abercrombie: War on the birthers

Memo to the nutcases who still question President Barack Obama‘s citizenship: The governor of Hawaii is ready to kick your collective asses with the best weapon of all: the truth.

New governor Neil Abercrombie not only has the clout to take on the fruitcake Obama birther movement. He was a friend of the Obamas when the President was a baby.

So he is making policy changes at the state level to allow Hawaii to release additional proof that Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961.

“What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons,” Abercrombie told the Tribune Company‘s Mike Memoli. “Maybe I’m the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you: ‘I was here when that baby was born.'”

But while Abercrombie’s moves should, once and for all, put an end to the ridiculous birther movement, the sad fact is that it won’t because those who question Obama’s citizenship have no interest in the truth. It will remain a centerpiece of a group of right-wing extremists driven by outright racism.

The birther movement began during the 2008 Presidential campaign when critics claimed Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and said the state refused to release documents that clearly verified the President’s proof of citizenship.

Abercrombie, however, says he is ready to take on the birthers.

He admits the birthers are a tough bunch where truth is irrelevant.

“I’m going to take care of that,” the web site Politico quoted him as telling the New York Times.

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16 Responses to Abercrombie to birthers: I’m gonna prove you wrong

  1. Gregory

    December 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Okay, but, the question is where was Doug Thompson born? The number of misspelled words in this article suggest he was born in a foreign land.

    • Doug Thompson

      December 26, 2010 at 11:25 pm

      The real question should be why didn’t I have more coffee in me before writing this morning? We’ve been having some problems with our database not saving updates after editing so that may have been problem. Or at may be the interesting collection of drugs that I’ve been taking since two back surgeries in the 10 days.

      Whatever the reason, my apologies for the typos.

    • Carl Nemo

      December 27, 2010 at 1:04 am

      Yo Gregory…

      I was going to let this one go by, but I won’t. Doug has been generous in apologizing for his typos etc. Possibly he’s corrected them because I can’t find any at this time.

      I’m blessed with a “steel-trap” memory and I don’t recall a “Gregory” ever posting to this site, at least in the number of years I’ve been here.

      So instead of having the humility to scope the site out and get the feel of the ‘tank’, to allow you to come across references to his medical problems you get on the horn an blast him for typos…say what?!

      Nothing and I mean nothing irritates me more than when some pedant corrects someone’s pronunciation of a word or pouncing on typos. I’ve sat at dining tables and have had the conversation interrupted by these types who will correct somone’s pronunciation of a word immediately. I always wince. / : |

      To me, it’s the height of rudeness to do so and indicates to me the indivdual who does such is a capital grade ‘A” “pr*ck”…!

      Instead of focusing on errors you could have showed us a bit of your ‘sparkling intellect’ on this issue instead of demonstrating you are more of the “village idiot” class.

      Carl Nemo **==

      • logtroll

        December 27, 2010 at 10:11 am

        I thought it was kind of funny… and Doug didn’t seem offended.

        P’raps a bit too much coffee, Cap’n?

        ‘nother Villige Idjit

  2. Almandine

    December 26, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    “…the birthers are a tough bunch where truth is irrelevant.”

    It could be that the issue is not so much where he was born, but with truth now being cast as the coin of the realm, why the secrecy? Why the obfuscation? Why hide his relevant past beyond what would be merely required to get a civil service job?

    Just who could know what is the truth… not just about his birthplace, but all the other information he has worked diligently and at great cost to hide? C’mon Gov, show every American everything. We damn sure have a right to know.

  3. hadassah

    December 26, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    the birthers are a tough bunch where truth is irrelevant. who are these people why were they not concerned when senator mccain was running for president and he was not born on this land. hmmmmm the bottom line some 5 percent of the white counter parts have a problem with the mixed black man living in the lillie white house with his black wife and children that is the bottom line white supremacy at it best. my entire life i dealt with just a small percentage of it and when your a smart brown/black person look out here comes trouble. disagree with president obama polices shoot i don’t like allot of things but when it comes to nasty racism thinking that white is right black get back i have to differ and that is error. cry about senator mccain too again he was not born here. we have really big issues all this reform for school and work nothing is working those are my concerns. as my 110 year old great-grandfather is saying all the chickens are coming home to roost and what is done in the dark will come to light.

    • Almandine

      December 26, 2010 at 6:00 pm

      McCain was born to 2 US citizens on a US military base, which is considered a sovereign extension of US territory. Again, though, birthplace is not the only, or perhaps even the most important, issue.

      • Duke

        December 31, 2010 at 10:09 pm

        Wrong! A US military base located outside the US is NOT US terrority. All US bases are leased from the host country and any child born on the base is issued a birth certificate from the host country. Yes McCain is a US citizen because all that is required is for ONE parent to be a US citizen and IT DOES NOT MATTER where the chid is born. The foreign born child is a US citizen even if only one parent is US citizen therefore Obama would be a US citizen even if born outside the US just as McCain is also.

    • thetruthbeknow

      December 27, 2010 at 4:05 am

      hadassah You totally have missed the whole issue. McCain was totally open and honest about his past. This person in the white house has thumbed his nose at clowns like you because you can see past the possibility that might not be a racial issue. It is one of honesty and the truth and being honest. That is something that he simply can not do for the American people. He has spent millions of dollars to hide his past and any person will one working brain cell should ask why. What is he hidding and why is he hidding it?

      If everything was on the up and up like with McCain then for less than $20 he could have put this issue to bed long ago. But no, he is hidding something and the democrats socialist / communists are supporting him totally. All he has to do to really stop this is be honest and above board for once in his life. But that seems to be beyond his capability.

  4. Keith

    December 26, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    ” Doug Thompson wrote: “But while Abercrombie’s moves should, once and for all, put an end to the ridiculous birther movement, the sad fact is that it won’t because those who question Obama’s citizenship have no interest in the truth.”

    Right on, Doug. It is, indeed, quite hopeless to try and reason someone out of something they’ve never been reasoned into in the first place.

    Does anyone REALLY believe that a person running for President would be so ignorantly arrogant as to think that he (or she) could cover up such information indefinitely?

    Clearly, if the all the Wikileaks nonsense has now taught our politicians anything it is the hard reality that government secrets are the most fleeting of all.

    • thetruthbeknow

      December 27, 2010 at 4:09 am

      Keith Why not ask for the truth for once in you life instead of buying the socialist mind games and lies and misdirection.

      The best thing in the world would be for the Gov to prove that he is citizen that is within the constitution to hold that office. I would love to see that proof because our less than honest president sure will not provide that evidence.

  5. Carl Nemo

    December 27, 2010 at 2:00 am

    Barack has far more problems than simply his birth certificate to resolve and that’s why millions have been spent on his behalf to cover up the past. It’s not sordid per se, but, both illegal and inappropriate for him to hold the office of President of the United States. It’s my hope that readers spend some time reading this link material. I know, for some folks, both reading and thinking is painful… : )

    He is Barry Soetoro, then to become Barack Obama and he was not born in the U.S. …period! He as well as his famlly are “Company personnel”… / : |

    http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-barack-obama-conclusively-outed-as-cia-creation/

    Carl Nemo **==

    • thetruthbeknow

      December 27, 2010 at 4:13 am

      Carl

      His supporter have never read and comprehended the simpliest thing in their lives. They can not see the simple difference between McCain that provided everything and Barry Seotoro who does nothing but provide lies and misdirection.

      Want to bet if the Gov does actually go and check the full records that we ever hear from him again on that subject. That is a million to one shot.

  6. Fivebyfives

    December 27, 2010 at 11:50 am

    A person’s past is sometimes a guide to their future. Sometime. In the case of President Obama I am much more concerned with where he’s going than where he’s been.

    After two years it appears (to me at least) that this is President Smirk, a Cheshire cat smile for everyone who fails to appreciate the god-like powers granted to this near-mortal who we are fortunate enough to guide us. To repeat myself in other threads, I voted for this guy. I voted for a Harry Truman as that’s what this nation desperately needed in 2008. Instead I find us stuck with Harry Potter, waving a magic wand that only he and his inner circle can see.

    Let the governor do as he pleases. That’s his right to speak. The caution I’m trying to lay forth involves looking too closely into the rearview mirror while some brightspark drives us off a cliff.

    • Almandine

      December 27, 2010 at 12:19 pm

      Sound advice.

  7. Jose Chung

    December 28, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    President Obama’s mother was a US citizen at the time of his birth. Without regard to where where he was actually born, this fact makes him a naturalized US citizen and this issue should have been put to bed a long time ago. That said, I don’t understand why the governor of Hawaii has to be involved in this at all. Why hasn’t President Obama authorized the release of the documentation that is sought? It seems that would be the fastest and most transparent method of putting this matter to rest.

    I tend to disagree with the President on policy, but I don’t like these attempts to get him tossed-out on a technicality either. I think President Obama has far more egregious faults than the GPS coordinates of his mother’s vagina at the exact moment of his birth; the country would be better served if the “birthers” directed their energy toward exposing these instead.