Carter: Bush allows torture

US President George W. Bush’s administration tortures detainees in defiance of international law, former US president Jimmy Carter charged Wednesday.

“I don’t think it, I know it, certainly,” Carter told CNN television when asked if he believed the US administration allowed the use of torture.

Carter rejected Bush’s statement last week that the United States does not torture terror suspects.

“That’s not an accurate statement, if you use the international norms of torture as has always been honored, certainly in the last 60 years, since the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was promulgated,” Carter said in the interview.

“But you can make your own definition of human rights and say, ‘we don’t violate them.’ And … you can make your own definition of torture and say ‘we don’t violate it,'” said the former Democratic president and Nobel laureate.

Asked if Bush was lying, Carter said: “The president is self-defining what we have done and authorized in the torture of prisoners, yes.”

Those who commit torture were violating international law, Carter said.

The White House rejected Carter’s comments and reiterated that the administration does not condone torture.

“The United States does not torture,” spokeswoman Dana Perino told AFP in an e-mail.

“The president has not authorized it, nor will he. Our interrogation methods are tough, safe, necessary and legal. And our country is being protected,” Perino said.

On Sunday, House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the United States appears to be torturing terror suspects.

Interviewed on Fox News Sunday, Pelosi said reported interrogation tactics such as simulated drowning, head slapping and exposure to extreme temperatures all amounted to banned torture.

The New York Times reported last week on a 2005 memo by the Justice Department that allegedly authorized harsh techniques in interrogations of “war on terror” suspects — in the same year that Congress explicitly banned the use of torture.

13 Responses to "Carter: Bush allows torture"

  1. Steve Horn  October 11, 2007 at 10:34 am

    Carter, perhaps the sharpest person in the White House during my lifetime, is spot on. If you change the definition and rules to suit your own purposes then you can easily live within those rules.

    As for the following statement by Perino:

    “The president has not authorized it, nor will he. Our interrogation methods are tough, safe, necessary and legal. And our country is being protected,”

    Balderdash. Nothing could be further from the truth. The authorization of torture, the wire taps without authorization, the interception of emails and other communications without probable cause have done more to endanger the America I grew up in than any terrorist could ever have accomplished.

    Why can’t we have another Carter, an honest, patriotic individual who honors the constitution and does what he feels is best for the nation, in the White House again? Perhaps we’ve become so apathetic and accepting of corruption as a society that we no longer DESERVE that sort of leadership.

    Peace

    Steve

  2. LurkingFromTheLeft  October 11, 2007 at 11:18 am

    Not to mention…

    …Carter did HIS military duty –

    …not hiding out in AL –

    …playing with things unbecoming of a military person destined to become the Decider in Chief –

    …or Chimp in Charge –

    LFTL

  3. adamrussell  October 11, 2007 at 10:57 am

    Memories of Carter are besmudged by the recession he presided over, that was caused by Nixon.

  4. the Don  October 11, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    Steve,

    Fortunately we have such a man now running for president, Ron Paul.

    Other than Paul and Dennis Kucinich, ALL the other candidates are corporate pimps. ALL are members of the Council of Foreign Relations, the ultimate decider of our corporate and international positions.

    Aaron Russo declined an invitation to join CFR offered by Nick Rockefeller who could not believe that someone of Russo’s stature could care about the “little people”.

    Ron Paul will end the war in Iraq and bring the troops home. He will return the USofA to a constitutional government.

    And like Andrew Jackson and Jesus he will kick the money changers out of the temple by eliminating the Federal Reserve and returning this nation to constitutional money, silver and gold.

    Now that Paul is beginning to receive some serious money from his supporters and because of his outspokenness and honesty in confronting the Republican hypocrites running for president he is slowing being recognized by the MSM as a serious candidate (but expect the MSM to continue to downplay and censure news of his candidacy).

    I have been tilting at the windmills of lying hypocritical presidential candidates for over 40 years but now I think that due to the disgust of the American people over Bush, this do nothing Congress and endless war, Paul has a real chance.

    Honesty in government does not have to be an oxymoron.

    Support and elect Ron Paul for president!

    Dump all incumbents!

    Return constitutional government!

    Buy silver and gold!

    Mahalo nui loa, thank you very much,
    the Don

  5. Steve Horn  October 11, 2007 at 1:57 pm

    Don –

    I like Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich and Bill Richardson – I kinda like Paul ’cause he is such a contrarian – he just seems like the kind of person who wants to get our government back to the business of what’s defined in the constitution, to enable commerce and defend the borders. I like Kucinich and Richardson because they both seem to value peace, and they both seem to be men of integrity and honor – I don’t see them in anyones pocket.

    None of them will be elected, however, ’cause they’re not courting big money and they lack name recognition or “rock star” status – maybe I’m wrong (hopefully) –

    Peace

    Steve

  6. ekaton  October 11, 2007 at 2:01 pm

    the Don,

    I believe Paul would attempt to do everything you suggest. I also believe that if it looks like he will be nominated that he will be assassinated — you know, the usual — car wreck, plane crash, heart attack, whatever. Call me paranoid but thats the way I feel about it.

    — Kent Shaw

  7. Elmo  October 11, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    As far as I can tell, President Carter never went back on his promise never to lie to us. When President Bush says it’s raining, I go outside and check for myself.

  8. Steve Horn  October 11, 2007 at 1:52 pm

    Elmo – BINGO – Carter is an honest man – quite likely to a fault for a politician. I remember when he confessed to the public that he’d “sinned in his mind” regarding his feelings for a woman other than his wife. The Republicans really thought that was funny (you know, those fellas singing “onward Christian soldiers” now???) – He tried common sense approaches to various problems, the energy crisis for one, where he suggested that people (all people) turn their thermostats down and wear sweaters to keep down fuel bills (more laughter from the right) – and had it not been for the dirty tricks and rather obvious scam pulled by Ronnie Ray-Gun regarding the Iranian hostage situation he likely would have served a second term, with integrity and honor (although he would have done well to keep Billy under wraps somewhere!) –

    Yep – we had an honest individual in office – and as a society we laughed him out of office.

    Note, if you will, that Carter has also been quite active after his term in office, and not just active promoting himself or seeing how much dough he can make on the speaking circut – but working with habitat for humanity and monitoring various international elections.

    He was and continues to be a true leader, in the finest sense of the word.

    Peace

    Steve

  9. anthny  October 11, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    anthny
    Carter could run for President again, but I think he’s smart enought to stay out of politics.
    He does fine keeping the idiots somewhat honest.
    A couple a months ago the Zionist went after him for stating some facts about Palestine and the treatment they are receiving from the zionfacists, they talked some shit and shut up quicker then usual.
    Billy his brother was a typical red neck type who loved his beer and even had his own lable.
    Carter does have some skeltons in his closet I think he’s a CFR.
    But even that did not make me lose respect for him and the work he does for habitat for humanity.

  10. Warren  October 12, 2007 at 1:00 am

    Don’t worry about it.
    The Establishment doesn’t have to resort to those tactics any more. Too messy. There are easier ways. Diebold has it covered.

  11. Paolo  October 12, 2007 at 2:24 am

    Aw, c’mon–we don’t “torture.”

    Sure, we put bags over people’s heads and beat them to death with a baseball bat. But that’s not torture!

    Sure, we stick burning phosphorus us their asses–but it’s not torture!

    Sure, we strip them naked, douse them with water, then put them in a cold cell. But it’s not torture!

    Sure, we strap them to a board, put cloths over their faces, and pour water on them to simulate drowning. But it’s not torture!

    Sure, we strip people naked, smear their bodies with feces, and pull women’s underwear over their heads while we mock them. But it’s not torture!

    Sure, we strip people naked, attach wires to their genitalia, and tell them we’re going to run electric current through the wire. But it’s not torture!

    Yup–we’re the good guys!

    I’m so proud to be an American!

  12. SEAL  October 12, 2007 at 5:02 am

    Paola’s list is only the mild stuff. The public will never find out the real torture that has gone on for many, many years. We’re no different than any other country.

    Actually, I have been very surprised that the Bush bunch ever let the cat outta the bag about what we do. The way they have gone about it is like they didn’t care if the public found out. Loading them on planes and flying them overseas right out in the open. This is the most inept bunch of clowns I have ever seen.

  13. Direct Democracy  May 14, 2008 at 9:47 pm

    Pursue the Bush administration beyond January 20 until they are brought to justice.

    Direct Democracy

Comments are closed.