Democrats get butts kicked…again

The Senate Thursday crushed a latest, and largely symbolic attempt by anti-war Democrats to cut off funding for most Iraqi combat operations by next June.

Only 28 Senators, all Democrats, including presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama backed the measure, which fell 32 votes short of the 60 vote supermajority it needed to pass.

The bill, co-sponsored by Senate Majority leader Harry Reid and Senator Russ Feingold, would have allowed funding only for a strictly limited US mission, based on training Iraqi forces and targeted counter-terrorism operations.

Before the vote, Reid bemoaned the fact that Democratic attempts to force Bush’s hand on the war had been rebuffed again and again.

“There is nothing the Democratic majority can do to force our Republican colleagues to vote the responsible way,” he said.

But 20 Democrats also voted against the Reid/Feingold bill, reflecting the fact that many Senators are wary of being seen to cut off vital funding for US troops on a foreign battlefield.

On Wednesday, the Democrats were left reeling from a much more significant defeat in the Senate — the failure of an attempt to dictate rest periods for troops equalled the time they spend on combat tours.

The measure, which would have limited the number of troops available for deployment in Iraq, fell three votes short of the 60 vote supermajority, and was seen as the Democrats best chance to pass an anti-war bill this year.

The defeat was the latest in a string of reversals for Democrats, who grabbed control of Congress last year on a tide of anti-war feeling, but have failed to thwart President George W. Bush’s powers to set war policy.

Also on Thursday, the Senate voted by a tally of 72 to 25 on a bill which effectively condemned an advertisement in the New York Times last week by liberal anti-war group MoveOn.Org, criticizing Iraq war commander General David Petraeus.

The ad, reading “General Petraeus of General Betray US” gave Republicans ammunition to attack Democrats during the general’s testimony before Congress on the ‘surge’ troop escalation strategy last week.

Clinton voted against the amendment to a defense policy bill — Obama did not cast a vote.

18 Responses to "Democrats get butts kicked…again"

  1. Ardie  September 22, 2007 at 2:30 am

    If I were a weak, spineless Democrat, I would think twice before cutting off the quagmire funding which finances TBIs, KIAs, and PTSD! The last thing I want to tell my constituents is that I am not for a lethal war. I want to be able to smile in front of them with a big American flag on my lapel and say that I support the troops getting IED-ed everyday. Mainly, I want to get re-elected and I just assume everybody else wants this war to continue forever because, like me, they are heartless cowards.

  2. Klaus Hergeschimmer  September 23, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    I don’t get cable TV anymore because of the highway robbery rates charged for it, but I certainly haven’t forgotten the top propaganda news agency of Neo-Cons and how much I despise it.

  3. Klaus Hergeschimmer  September 21, 2007 at 10:36 pm

    I have never despised the Democrats more then I have now. The Democrats have been assimilated by the Neo-Con Borg Machine. They’re just doing their little symbolic
    protest dance to up their own political ante as
    ‘bravely’ fighting the Republikaners to up its chances of taking the White House and gaining more seats in both houses, but to do this, our troops must be their sacrificial lambs.

    As Seal has so rightly stated, if Hillary wins the center seat, she’s not going to restore habeas corpus or FISA oversight. The Democrats have no problem surrendering the constitution to the Neo-Cons just to get their pink assess into the White House & increase its numbers in both houses.

    Absolute power corrupts absolutely and Hillary’s no different, nor are the other Democrats going along with this game.

    The Democrats are such f*cking sheep, they always play this,’Let the Republicans hang themselves with its support of the war’, and doing this necesitates letting our troops to be snuffed just for the Democrats political expediency to win big in the 2008 presidential elections.

    The Democrats are Cattle Ranchers, herding our troops to the slaughter chutes for Democratic machinations to gain power.

    Message to the Democrats & Republicans in both houses: you are scum! But like president Bush, it seems you have no problems sleeping at night.

  4. Klaus Hergeschimmer  September 22, 2007 at 3:05 am

    Democrats Never Met A Non-Binding Piece of Legislation
    They Did Not Like.

    Please Give To The Foundation To Transplant Political
    Spines Into Spineless Democratic Jellyfish.

    “If They Only Had A Spine”

    But Until then, Please Nominate Arnold Ziffel For President! (Dah Dah -Da da da -DAHH -DAHH!!!)

    [PAID FOR BY THE COMMITTEE TO ELECT ARNOLD
    ZIFFEL FOR PRESIDENT, GREEN ACRES, CALIFORNIA]

  5. bryan mcclellan  September 22, 2007 at 4:05 am

    I would rather have an immediate ,long term effect ,than none at all,said the Mom.

  6. SEAL  September 22, 2007 at 3:32 am

    Ruppert Murdock, owner of Fox and now the Wall Street Journal, has come out for Hillary Clinton and is donating to her campaign. What does that tell you?

    Several other prominant corporate republican backers have come out for her, also. A few are supporting Obama and other democrats. These are companies that have always supported the repugnants. Looks like, regardless of any ideology, what really matters is being on the winning team.

  7. Klaus Hergeschimmer  September 22, 2007 at 11:30 am

    With Pillary taking bribes from Murdock It means Pillary is Green to Go for maintaing permanent U.S. occupation in Iraq. Hillary is now Elsa the She-Wolf of the Neo-Cons.

  8. SEAL  September 22, 2007 at 2:50 pm

    Those who monitor Fox news should take note of how they trat Hillary from this point forward. I can’t stand to watch the crap on Fox, myself, and my wife doesn’t like me getting upset and yelling at the TV. She worries about my health.

  9. dbt  September 21, 2007 at 7:50 am

    OUCH! Thank you, Sir! May I have another? OUCH! Thank you, Sir! May I have another?

    This was amusing the first hundred times that it happened…

  10. Janice  September 21, 2007 at 12:12 pm

    Seems to me that cutting off funding for the war would effectively end it. The Democrats have a majority, don’t they? It’s time they use it to stop this stupidity and end the war!

    And, IF they are serious about fiscal responsiblity, a wonderful opportunity is coming up Oct. 1, when this insane government reaches the spending (debt) cap – again. I’ve written to my reps, strongly encouraging them to not raise the limit, but to start practicing fiscal responsiblity. Of course, to me that means ending spending on Iraq – to this bunch of bozos, it means cutting programs to keep the borrowed wealth of this nation flowing into the pockets of the rich.
    Janice
    If you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.
    Mark Twain

  11. Wayne K Dolik  September 21, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    “I don’t belong to any organized political party. I’m a Democrat!”
    Will Rogers

  12. Nogood  September 21, 2007 at 1:46 pm

    The Democrats are “scared” to fight. They bring a knife to a gunfight. Is it any wonder that their asses get kicked?

    I am so disappointed in the Democrats that I have severed my party affilation with them. Been a Democrat for 72 years, but after I have witnessed recent events by the leaders, I just cant identify myself with these people.

    We call George Bush an idiot, but the Democratic Party as a whole probably couldnt tie Bush’s shoes.

  13. Klaus Hergeschimmer  September 21, 2007 at 9:44 pm

    Good for you Nogood! I left the Democratic Party and changed my party to Independent. The Democrats new party symbol should be a Jellyfish -as in Spineless Jellyfish.

  14. SEAL  September 21, 2007 at 2:20 pm

    What a stupid waste of time!
    ……………………………………………
    Also on Thursday, the Senate voted by a tally of 72 to 25 on a bill which effectively condemned an advertisement in the New York Times last week by liberal anti-war group MoveOn.Org, criticizing Iraq war commander General David Petraeus.
    …………………………………………….
    True to form the repugnants push the emotional issues ahead of anything meaningful.

    True to form, the democraps continue to introduce bills the repugnants will kill so that they can blame them for the war.

    True to form, the press reports everything with bold headlines as democrap “failure” and repugnant success.

    True to form, the taxpayer only skims the headlines that give the wrong impression and goes shopping for a new toy.

    True to form, the Bush crime organization has orchestrated another con job (finding a General to BetrayUs this time) that allows them to continue to siphon the taxpayers money into their own pockets.

    True to form, our elected represenatives continue to waste an incredible amount of time and money.

    There are four types of people in our nation:

    1] Those who make things happen.
    2] Those who watch things happen.
    3] Those who stand around wondering what happened.
    4] Those who don’t care what happened.

    America is overrun with 3s and 4s.

  15. SEAL  September 21, 2007 at 3:24 pm

    It’s very simple.

    Instead of offerring these bills to restrict the way the war is run that will automatically be defeated by the rpugnants. All they have to do is nothing. Don’t offer a funding bill. If congress doesn’t fund the war, it ends. If they would stand their ground on that, Bush would have no alternative but to accept a funding bill with restrictions.

    The Democraps think they are being really smart by what they are doing and placing all the blame on the repugnants. But the press is making them look like a bunch of losers that can’t get the job done. The scheme is backfiring on them.

  16. pondering_it_all  September 21, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    Incomplete Reporting …………………………………..
    “On Wednesday, the Democrats were left reeling from a much more significant defeat in the Senate — the failure of an attempt to dictate rest periods for troops equalled the time they spend on combat tours.

    The measure, which would have limited the number of troops available for deployment in Iraq, fell three votes short of the 60 vote supermajority, and was seen as the Democrats best chance to pass an anti-war bill this year.”

    It does not require 60 votes to pass a Senate bill. This bill had enough votes to pass. Nowhere in the story does it mention that the bill was blocked by the threat of a Republican filibuster, and that the Republicans have adapted a strategy of threatening to filibuster EVERY bill the Democratic majority puts forward in the senate.

    The press keeps repeating these stories about Democratic failure, when the real story is Republican sabotage. The public blames the “do nothing congress” (which must be the fault of the Democratic majority), but the real problem is the senate Republicans executing Rove’s final cynical plan.

  17. Ardie  September 21, 2007 at 5:34 pm

    I am glad to see the butt-kicking Republicans are supporting the quagmire. Someone has to stand up for our nation’s vanity and hide its blunders. Go get ‘em boys!

  18. bryan mcclellan  September 21, 2007 at 6:28 pm

    It is time to indict the Senate for War crimes,every single member.They are derelict and defunct.No greater threat do we face today than this pack of self serving ass licking pompous no-neck slack-jawed sons of corporate WHORES.Their plan is very clear,trash the military in a foreign land,erase our borders via the north American union and enslave the population as per orders from the CFR,Bilderbergers ,Bohemian grove,corporate borg,or whatever you want to call them.When a lefty organizations comment about a politically compromised General causes the only legislation to get serious consideration to be a sanction on said commentary ,the whores have clearly shown that this nation and it’s citizens are secondary to political posturing.Goddamn every fucking one of them !

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