Bush plays the nuclear card

US President George W. Bush on Tuesday raised the specter of a “nuclear holocaust” in the Middle East if Israel’s arch-foe Iran gets atomic weapons, and demanded that Tehran end support for extremists in Iraq.

“Iran’s actions threaten the security of nations everywhere, and the United States is rallying friends and allies to isolate Iran’s regime, to impose economic sanctions,” he told the American Legion veterans group.

“We will confront this danger before it is too late,” vowed Bush, who has pressed for tougher international sanctions and said he hopes for a diplomatic solution but has repeatedly refused to rule out the use of force.

Bush, whose speech was billed a defense of US efforts in Iraq, also said Tehran must starve Shiite fighters in Iraq of weapons, equipment and training whether or not Iran’s leaders know about such operations and have given their blessing.

“Either way, they cannot escape responsibility for aiding attacks against coalition forces and the murder of innocent Iraqis,” he said, as the White House warned in a statement that Iran must act “at once.”

Bush also strongly defended US-led efforts in Iraq and especially his decision in January to send another 30,000 US troops there, describing the unpopular conflict as the central front against Iran and Al-Qaeda.

“The most important and immediate way to counter the ambitions of Al-Qaeda and Iran and other forces of instability and terror is to win the fight in Iraq,” he declared.

Bush said there were “unmistakable signs” that the US troop “surge” was paying off with lower levels of violence and local efforts at quieting bloody sectarian conflict and downplayed the failure by the government in Baghdad to post concrete progress on national reconciliation.

“Iraq’s leaders aren’t perfect, but they were elected by their people,” he said. “And leaders in Washington need to look for ways to help our Iraqi allies succeed, not excuses for abandoning them.”

Shortly before Bush spoke, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran and neighboring countries were ready to fill the “power vacuum” emerging in the Middle East as US power in Iraq wanes.

“You (the United States) cannot preserve your power over Iraq with a few tanks, artillery and weapons. Today, you are prisoners of your own quagmire. You have no choice but to accept the rights of the Iraqi people,” Ahmadinejad said.

“I can tell you there will be a power vacuum in the region. We are ready with other regional countries, such as Saudi Arabia, and the people of Iraq, to fill this vacuum.”

The United States has expressed its discomfort over the increasingly strong relationship between Iran and Baghdad.

Some Western analysts have argued that Iran has been the chief beneficiary of the US invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein in 2003, helping Tehran to boost its influence in the region.

Ahmadinejad also scoffed at the notion of a US attack on his country dismissed a warning from his new French counterpart, Nicolas Sarkozy, as a symptom of inexperience.

“There is no … possibility of such an attack by the United States,” Ahmadinejad told a news conference marked by his characteristic defiance.

“Even if they take such a decision, they cannot implement it,” he said.

Sarkozy used a keynote foreign policy address on Monday to say the threat of sanctions coupled with an offer of dialogue was the only way of avoiding a “catastrophic alternative: an Iranian bomb or the bombing of Iran.”

“He only recently came to power and wants to find a place for himself in the world,” Ahmadinejad said of the French president. “He is still inexperienced, meaning that maybe he does not really understand the meaning of his own words.”

The United States accuses Iran — OPEC’s number two oil producer and owner of the second largest proven gas reserves in the world — of seeking to make nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian energy drive.

Iran insists that the drive is entirely peaceful and that its growing population will need nuclear power as fossil fuels start to run dry.

Tehran’s refusal to suspend uranium enrichment — a sensitive process that can be used both to make nuclear fuel and nuclear weapons — has already seen it slapped with two sets of UN sanctions.

Washington has been pushing for tougher measures, but Ahmadinejad said Iran was now cooperating so well with the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), that more UN sanctions were unlikely.

“Not one member of the IAEA has cooperated as well as Iran. So from our point of view, Iran’s nuclear case is closed. Iran is a nuclear nation and has the nuclear fuel cycle,” he said.

A deal reached between Iran and the IAEA last week sets out a detailed timetable for Tehran to answer outstanding questions about its atomic drive, but does not tackle the key sticking point over whether Iran should suspend uranium enrichment activities.

The US envoy to the IAEA, Gregory Schulte, has dismissed the plan as having “real limitations,” and claimed that Iran “is clearly trying to distract attention from its continued development of bomb-making capability.”

Schulte insisted that the United States would continue pushing for a third round of sanctions, which diplomats said Washington wanted to happen in September.

15 Responses to "Bush plays the nuclear card"

  1. adamrussell  August 30, 2007 at 3:17 am

    I think the odds are more likely that Bush will let one fly than that Iran would.

  2. SEAL  August 30, 2007 at 4:46 am

    I am a military commander and strategist with over 30 years experience. I’ve already gone through the reasons why our military cannot attack Iran and the reasons I’m allowed to give why Bush could not launch a preemptive nuclear strike at anyone on two previous occasions. Obviously some of you do not believe me or you did not see it. I will not go through all the details again but it is the military that will stop Bush. They will disobey the order if he gives it.

    The only order they might obey would be conventional air strikes in Iran but I seriously doubt that due to the obvious after affects from a military point of view. They will not initiate a war that is a no win conflict and suicide for the troops, orders or no orders. They would say “Mr. President we cannot do that because > Iran would undoubtably retaliate by, in part, attacking our forces in Iraq. We have no real ground forces or equipment to send to support. The Iraqis would rise up against us in mass. We would be fucked on the ground. Our only salvation would be our air power and that would eventually save the ground but our losses would be enormous and we could not invade or defeat Iran. We would lose Iraq and be forced to withdraw from the country. All we could do is fight our way out with rear guard action and continue to bomb them to hold them at bay.

    Iran would not attack Isreal because they know the Isrealis would nuke them. The other Mid East countries would stay out of it unless attacked which Iran would not do. They are not stupid, they know the rest of the world, the UN, would be screaming and come down on us until we stopped. It is even possible China and Russia would send troops to Iran to defy us to bomb them.

    Attacking Iran is not militarily possible, we cannot do it, and the admirals and generals would tell Bush that. They would also point out that congress would have to declare the war before they could act. That would be their “legal” out to disobey.

    I think that all this fear feeding about Bush nuking Iran or otherwise attacking them should stop.

  3. Klaus Hergeschimmer  August 30, 2007 at 6:49 am

    Seal, I have read that Iran has recently gotten some advanced air-defense systems, and anti-aircraft missles. I just wondered if you know much about that?

    If Bush takes on Bombing Iran, this could and very likely be his Stalingrad.

    The problem with the Chimp Administration dumbing down its recruting standards for human fodder to shore up the manpower needs of the military is
    to me very ‘Volkssturm-Lite’.

    Nancette and Hairy Reed vainly engage in little Pavlov Jack-in-the-Box retorts that they’ll re-double their efforts at non-binding resolutions, and they are so
    damn hollow. It is just amazing how they are so afraid of their own shadows.

  4. SEAL  August 30, 2007 at 6:21 pm

    Klaus, I don’t have acces to any specific or inside information anymore. My information comes from “buddys” I know over there or mostly in the states. And they would not reveal any classified info. I do know that Iran is spending millions for all types of military hardware. Within that they have acquired some ground to air missiles and would like to get their hands on all of that sort of thing they can. Most of what they are buying is Russian made with Chinese a strong second. It comes from several sources.

    I look for them to buy all the “shoulder fired” ground to air rockets they can. They know what kind of war it would be if it happened. No way could they acquire enough of a missle defense to have much impact on on our air strikes if we launched them. But you would find them popping up out of the attic as you flew over with a shoulder fired rocket to pop you in the nose and kill you before you could react. “Iranbo.”

    But, as I have repeatedly said, I see no way we would attack them.

  5. Carl Nemo  September 2, 2007 at 3:20 am

    SEAL, I respect and understand your views concerning Bushco launching a “strategic” nuclear attack against Russia or China as a no-go, but when it comes to launching a pre-emptive attack against Iran using Tomahawk missiles with RDX armed warheads or possibly “bunker-busting” nukes on a theatre basis I have to disagree.

    It would be my hope that honorable men; i.e, officers would not comply with such directives, but if it’s contained to theatre; ie., a Middle East engagement, they’l probably perform as efficient “button men” when given the order, regardless of how much they squirm concerning the mindless, insane command that comes from Der Fuhrer’s bunker…!

    I’m calling it that they will follow orders and attack Iran in spades regardless of the military and economic fallout concerning this monstrous action.

    There’s an article posted this date relative to comments from an LSO officer based on one of our carriers. I cannot discount the commentary. It seems genuine and well stated. All I can say is Americans the world best get ready down below because if we think the invasion of Iraq based on cooked intelligence, courtesy of the Wolfowitz-Feith-Cheney pipeline was bad, then it will have been a cakewalk compared to the price we shall pay for attacking Iran with no other provocation other than being ordered to do so by Israel.

    http://readerrant.capitolhillblue.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=28973#Post28973

    Carl Nemo **==

    p.s. Get ready for $120 bbl oil and $10 dollar gasoline at the pumps and a total and absolute crash of the capital markets and a host of the worlds phony-butt fiat currencies excluding the Euro which is the only currency they will then accept for their oil; ie., either Euro’s or gold bullion…!

  6. Steve Horn  August 29, 2007 at 9:45 am

    Bush is going to keep jamming his tumb into Ahmadinejads eye until Ahmadinejad has no choice but to back down (unlikely, as he’d lose face) or attack. Apparently Bush wants Ahmadinejad to start the exchange (likely with Israel) – at which point we can join in and let some of our nukes loose –

    I’m curious – was Bush influenced by the teachings of David Koresh?

  7. LurkingFromTheLeft  August 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm

    And did he…

    …pronounce it correctly? -

    …we know ‘he’ pronounced it ‘right’ -

    LFTL

  8. www.nazilieskill.us  August 29, 2007 at 9:59 am

    If they start another war with another 911 stunt, let the Republicans spend the rest of their lives cleaning up after traffic accidents.

    John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming

  9. Cashel Boylo  August 29, 2007 at 10:10 am

    Time To Nuke Iran
    to the tune of:-
    Nobody Knows You When You’re Down And Out

    I won’t be rushed, there’s plenty of time
    I’m gonna be here till two thousand an’ nine
    Why should I hurry? Why should I worry?
    I’m War President, Deciden’ th’ best for the c’untry

    I’m doin’ God’s work, spreadin’ Freedom all round
    A better Decider just could not be found
    I unnerstan’ war’s tough, that’s why I dodged ‘Nam
    An’ was wounded by a dentist’s drill in Alabam’

    I reject all ideas that would lead to defeat
    People gotta unnerstan’ victory must be complete
    At th’ ‘propriate time, I’ll say where we’re headed
    I’ll present My New Way Forward with Iraqis embedded

    I’m weighin’ my options for Iraq
    We’re goin’ forward, we’re not goin’ back
    I got a better plan, a bran’ new scam
    I think I just might nuke Iran

    Cashel Boylo

  10. Bill Robinson  August 29, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Are we who read and respond to CHB a minority of a few hundred or a few thousand?
    Doesn’t the rest of the USA see what a megalomaniac this president is?
    Does noone have the balls to impeach him, noone besides Feingold?
    All these hyperpuffing candidates for President have not said one sensible word about getting rid of Bush before he destroys the middle east with nukes and precipitates a total nuclear war, WHY?
    Look at this scenario: Bush drops nuclear devices on Iran. The fallout contaminates Iraq. Our soldiers there also suffer from the radiation drift, BUT because a huge chunk of the world’s oil supply has just been removed from the market due to radioactivity, existing supplies skyrocket in price to meet the constant demand. Who will get richer than the Saudis and the Bandar Bush (aka George W) and his daddy who is on a permanent retainer on the Saudi Arabian payroll?
    The decider will, that’s who.
    And all this is to say nothing of the possibility that Russia (whose oil supplies have just increased 1,000 fold in value) and China get a little pissed at the USA for nuking their buddy in Iran. So maybe they toss a couple of nukes our way and poof, we are all dust except Bushies and family and Cheney and family who have shown their marvelous ability to disappear when the going gets tough.
    Well, bye bye miss american pie and all the rest of you’all. I’m heading for a Yurt in upper Mongolia.
    I’ll watch your glow from a Gobi Dune.
    Bill

  11. Caine  August 29, 2007 at 2:29 pm

    There is over 5000 people registered at CHB. It seems that we are the only ones that can see what could happen if this administration gets its way.

    Kucinich also submitted a bill to impeach Bush and Cheney both. He seems to understand the seriousness of our situation, but with no support from the rest of the democratic party, there is little he can do. I must say though, that there are 12 or 13 now on board with Kucinich’s bill.

    Ron Paul also seems to be somewhat aware of our situation.

    Unfortunately, neither of these folks will get past the primaries.

    Don’t doubt that China and Russia both will jump in to the mix when we attack Iran. I think that we are pretty much doomed. If we can make it through the next year and a half, we may still have a chance. But, if Bush gets his way with Iran, you’d better find yourself a nice deep cave to try to survive the fallout!!

    I know, I know. This post is somewhat negative. My wife always tells me I shouldn’t be so negative. My replay: I’m not being negative, I’m being realistic.

  12. kiki  August 29, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    Ahmadinejad is right about the US being in a quagmire and how the balance of of power has changed. What he’s NOT right about is that Bush won’t dare attack Iran. After I heard excerpts from that speech Dubya made to the American Legion, I realized we’re doomed.

    Bush/Cheney are bound and determined to get their PNAC plan implemented before 2009. There’s no denying that Saddam was bad, but Iran has always been the real danger. This sabre-rattling from Bush just proves to me that he’s a certifiable lunatic. This, of course, will serve as their convenient Pearl Harbor/911 to suspend the 2008 elections and declare martial law.

    Get your passports and get out now! ( That’s assuming you could GET a passport before November 2008.)

    BTW,kudos to Bill, Caine and Cashel on their posts. Cashel, that song is priceless!

  13. remoran  August 29, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    Impeach or nuke Bush and Cheney because if they do Iran, it’s over because (in addition to what all the other writers have expressed) countries all over the world will demand oil to be traded in Euros (as a response to the insane attack on Iran), thus relegating the dollar to the status of bumwad because of the enormous debt the BA has run up in bankrupting our country. This Euro deal is the real reason why Bush wants to attack Iran as that country is starting up a bourse to trade oil for euros because 1. the Euro is worth something and 2, they want to curtail the influence the US has in the Middle East.

    Never in my life could I imagine what is going on here regarding just how truly horrible this administration is. One could never make this up in terms of how incompetent this group of idiots can be. I never thought I would long for the days of Tricky Dick but I do because at least that nutjob would have stayed away from Iraq and Iran because he was not stupid in the realm of foreign affairs, (outside of Nam & Cambodia), something that cannot be said for King George, our feckless King of fools.

    “Never stop questioning.” Einstein

  14. Carl Nemo  August 29, 2007 at 11:12 pm

    Issuing a dire warning about George Bush & Co. …!

    Take a look at the supplied AFP photo with this article. Notice the same old “chimplike” lip expressions he uses while droning his same mindless screed we’ve heard for the past 6.5 years plus. He and his neocon gang lied to us about WMD’s in Iraq courtesy of the Wolfowitz, Feith, Cheney rogue intelligence pipeline and they haven’t been seriously challenged on the issue. They’ve outed a CIA operative for their war-engineering plans and have demonstrated they will stop at nothing to maintain a state of endless war for the benefit of their MIC controllers with a derivative benefit to thousands of “camp-following” contractors, and the “oil patch” too. Soon he will want another 50 billion (50,000 million bucks) to pitch down this Iraqi rathole for the purpose of the continual enrichment of his MIC patrons.

    Iran hasn’t produced a single viable primitive “fission device” while Israel sits atop a 100 plus thermonuclear (hydrogen device)arsenal with a means to deliver them in a NY minute!

    He’s ignorant, inarticulate, boring and hasn’t had an original thought, possibly in his entire lifetime, but “we the people” must suffer this man’s presence. His only baseline thought is “what’s in it for me and the Bush clan…!

    He and his PNAC, neo-con, NWO, corporatist cronies have trashed this once great nation. Trillions of dollars of new, unpayable debt have been slapped on the nations taxpayers with nothing to show for the expenditures. He visits the southland of America which is still mightily trashed and has the brass to talk feelgood, empty euphemisms to the victims. He and his cronies could give a “rats butt” less about America. All they’ve got on their minds is making astronomical sums of ill-gotten bucks, courtesy of the U.S. taxpayer.

    Our Congress is comprised of facilitators for this continuing scam. Both the debt that has been incurred cannot be paid or the clock turned back in order reverse this engineered damage, all with Congressional complicity. George Bush can be equated to the “Terminator”;ie., a programmed “bot” sent by the NWO crowd to destroy the U.S. and he’s just about finished us off. There doesn’t seem to be any forces for good stopping them either.

    The elections of 2008 are a long way off and even voting has been rendered superfluous when you survey the ugly selection of candidates that are running for the presidency. I refer to this phenomena as “The Empire of the Rising Scum” effect.

    America is in harms way with these mattoids in power. I urge all citizen/patriots to get motivated and to start contacting their elected reps relentlessly, demanding summary impeachment of Bush/Cheney, odds of success be damned! There’s a time when a line in the sand must be drawn, and evil nation-destroying entities such as this must confronted squarely by “we the people”. We owe it to our founding fathers, or forefathers and to all those that have given their lives in the defense of freedom and truth for not only this nation, but for all time and all places throughout history. As they say “just do it”…!

    http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm
    http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/

    Carl Nemo **==

  15. Paolo  August 29, 2007 at 11:08 pm

    Check out the most recent column by Justin Raimondo at antiwar.com. Victor Davis Hanson, the administration’s court historian, gave a speech in which he said Bush promised him that he would attack Iran before the end of his presidency.

    Bush is a war-mongering lunatic. But, most CHB readers already know this.

    This is why impeachment of Bush and Cheney is so important. Would they ultimately be convicted? Probably not, given the slim Democratic majority in the Senate. But impeachment could very well stall the Bush administration for the remainder of his term by forcing him to answer charges.

    Impeachment also weakens Bush’ hand if he should choose to create and use a “false flag” operation as an excuse to launch WWIII.

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