Bush lied about extent of domestic spying

President George W. Bush, in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, approved a vast domestic spying operation that went far beyond just using the National Security Agency to snoop into the private lives of Americans.

In an executive order signed by Bush in 2001, the efforts of all of America’s extensive intelligence communities were turned inwards, monitoring the day-to-day activities on U.S. citizens on a level that rival’s Russias famed KGB.

And, as with most activities of the Bush administration, most of the details of the domestic spying operation remain secret, hidden behind the cloak of “national security.” When Bush previously admitted the NSA’s role in domestic spying he was, as usual, telling only part of the real story.

Reports Dan Eggen in The Washington Post:

The Bush administration’s chief intelligence official said yesterday that President Bush authorized a series of secret surveillance activities under a single executive order in late 2001. The disclosure makes clear that a controversial National Security Agency program was part of a much broader operation than the president previously described.

The disclosure by Mike McConnell, the director of national intelligence, appears to be the first time that the administration has publicly acknowledged that Bush’s order included undisclosed activities beyond the warrantless surveillance of e-mails and phone calls that Bush confirmed in December 2005.

In a letter to Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), McConnell wrote that the executive order following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks included “a number of . . . intelligence activities” and that a name routinely used by the administration — the Terrorist Surveillance Program — applied only to “one particular aspect of these activities, and nothing more.”

“This is the only aspect of the NSA activities that can be discussed publicly, because it is the only aspect of those various activities whose existence has been officially acknowledged,” McConnell said.

The program that Bush announced was put under a court’s supervision in January, but the administration now wants congressional approval to do much of the same surveillance without a court order.

McConnell’s letter was aimed at defending Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales from allegations by Democrats that he may have committed perjury by telling Congress that no legal objections were raised about the TSP. Gonzales said a legal fight in early 2004 was focused on “other intelligence activities” than those confirmed by Bush, but he never connected those to Bush’s executive order.

But in doing so, McConnell’s letter also underscored that the full scope of the NSA’s surveillance program under Bush’s order has not been revealed. The TSP described by Bush and his aides allowed the interception of communication between the United States and other countries where one party is believed to be tied to al-Qaeda, so other types of communication or data are presumably being collected under the parts of the wider NSA program that remain hidden.

29 Responses to "Bush lied about extent of domestic spying"

  1. gene  August 1, 2007 at 7:57 pm

    As I read many of the comments posted concerning this and other articles it strikes me as humorous in a very sad kind of way that the majority of citizens of this (once great nation) have NO ideal what is happening with this white house gain of criminals.

    Because of this (massive) lack of awareness brought on by simple minded individuals concern only with their needs explains how this gain of political thuggs did and continue to get away with murder.

    Only a fraction of the populas are paying attention and even fewer willing to do someing (if they could). Bush and his gain knows this so their arrogance will only grow.

    The individual American is no where near the same person that exsisted only a few decades ago. What does this mean for this nation that continues to preach individual freedoms?

    Probably a reality we never dreamed possible.

  2. Sonorous Pest  August 1, 2007 at 9:49 pm

    Sonorous pest

    What else is new?
    Bush lied when he laid his hand on the bible.

  3. SEAL  August 1, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    And…. Today, the news is that a “bipartisan” congress is going to give the President and Gonzales even more freedom to spy on americans before they go on summer vacation. I guess that tells us what we need to know.

    Oh, but they say it is only temporary. [Didn't they say that about the Patriot Act?]

    Btw… how many of you are going to take a month off for vacation this summer?

  4. LurkingFromTheLeft  August 2, 2007 at 1:34 am

    So –

    …we are the few –

    …the proud –

    …the CHB? –

    LFTL

  5. Helen Rainier  August 2, 2007 at 3:00 am

    Gene,

    Gee whiz, I had posted a reply to your comments yesterday and for some reason (must have forgotten to click the “Publish Comment” button) and it hasn’t shown up yet.

    Again, I thank you for your kind words. Not to worry about me stroking out — I just call it as I see it and then try to figure out what, if anything, I can do about it. Can’t get hung up in the emotional aspects of this, but rather focus on the factual aspects.

    Another thing that has crossed my mind is that not only must we keep contacting our own federal legislators in support of the oversight and investigations that are now underway since the Democratic Party is in the majority, but we also need to contact the Republican minority members who do not have the best interests of this country at heart — and god knows there’s too many of these fools:

    McConnell — what a whiney puke
    Graham — his voice sounds like nails on a blackboard
    Boehner — the cryer extraordinaire
    Sessions — another puke
    Bond — another puke
    Davis (Tom) — a pukehead apologist
    Specter — a pretend hero
    McHenry — freaky little creep
    Putnam — an equally freaky little creep

    All of the Republican presidential contenders — a bunch of losers in both common sense, logic and overall intelligence

    and that’s just for starters. There are very few of them who don’t conjure up feelings of controlled rage.

    A very good site for quick info on all of the Congressional representatives can be found at:

    http://www.Congress.org

    It’s a site I go to often for a quick profile and also has links to their “official” websites.

    We HAVE to let them know in no uncertain terms that we are on to their traitorous and treasonous words and actions, and that we are more powerful than the Illuminati. We must let them know we are watching and we just begun to pass judgment.

    And, if we are veterans we must further tell them, we are the guardians of protecting and defending the US Constitution from ALL enemies — foreign and domestic, and that includes them.

  6. Jeffrey B.  August 2, 2007 at 5:21 am

    I’m surprised that it didn’t explode into flames.

    I don’t know what brand of ‘Christanity’ he subscribes to – but five will get you ten that we won’t be seeing him in the afterlife.

  7. Sandra Price  August 2, 2007 at 6:15 am

    This information might not be of interest to many of you but Sunday Night on the History Channel they are going to present a 2 hour show on 9/11. It will feature the “conspiracies” that seem to stay in the minds of many of us. I don’t know the extent of the fear that Bush knew it was coming but if you are interested it should be a good watch. Check your schedule for the time.

  8. Helen Rainier  August 2, 2007 at 10:58 am

    Sandra,

    Thanks for the heads-up on this episode on History Channel. I will have to try to remember to watch it.

    BTW, been meaning to also thank you for convincing Doug to resurrect that “Comments” option.

    I know I’m not the only one who appreciates it.

    Proud Army Vet
    Vietnam Era
    Not a leftie, not a rightie,
    just down the middle.

  9. Helen Rainier  August 1, 2007 at 10:39 am

    Hi Fellow CHBers,

    Perhaps a better way to think about all this is to ask: Is there anyone in this administration who is a political appointee who has not been deceitful? Is there any political appointee in this administration who has been honest? Is there any political appointee who has been forthright? Is there any political appointee who has stood up for the principles of government as defined in the US Constitution? Is there any political appointee who has taken the words of the Oath that they swore to uphold seriously and looked to serving the country?

    All of my life I have tried to avoid using the word “hate” because to me it connotated something visceral almost bordering on irrationality. However, there are simply no words that can do justice to the depth of my beliefs about this administration and now extends to the entire Republican Party. I HATE them. I HATE what they have done to this country and what the Republican legislators have allowed them to do.

    We have idiots like Snow and the myriad of Republican leadership in Congress trying to dismiss all of these trangressions against the Constitution by these slimy weasels (and I apologize for the affront to all 4-legged weasels for using this unfortunate label) and not a single one of them has EVER DONE A DAMNED thing to serve this country out of a true sense of patriotic duty and love of country.

    There are simply no words that adequately express my visceral dislike, disrespect, contempt, and revulsion for these treasonous traitors of this formerly great country.

    The Republicans deserve a special place in the book of traitors and in Hell. Just the other day, Duncan Hunter, one of the Republikon presidential contenders said he is not paying attention to the Gonzales disaster because he thinks it’s not deserving of his attention?

    WTH? WTF? It is clear that Fredo is lying his ass off, playing political games and forsaking the Constitution and this fool Hunter isn’t paying attention?

    Collectively speaking, this administration is the most repugnant and contemptible since the Eisenhower administration in the early 50s.

  10. gene  August 1, 2007 at 1:25 pm

    I’ve got to tell you Helen, besides that being one of your usual excellent dissertations exposing we who monitor CHB to a (euphoric) verbage of the truth. BUT!!! take care of yourself and don’t going stroking out on us chickens who frequent this site.

    I have something that helps me relax and even (God forgive me) smile, occasionally.

  11. LurkingFromTheLeft  August 1, 2007 at 7:19 am

    Yet another headline…

    …that was COMPLETE after the first TWO words –

    …BUSH LIED –

    …thank dog it didn’t say BUSH THINKS –

    LFTL

  12. Jeffrey B.  August 2, 2007 at 4:59 am

    He can’t think without (they don’t call him ‘Dick’ for nothing) Cheney pulling the strings. I mean let’s face it – Bush the Lessor has spent his entire life with Daddy’s friends bailing him out of one fiasco after another. That’s why he is so adamant about finishing the job in Iraq – no matter the cost.

    Makes you wonder at Bush the Elders’ choice of surrogate sons – the Clinton between the Bush – OOPS – hope that this pornographic comment doesn’t get me booted out. Hahahahahaha!

    How will this nation ever live down this Dumbannder in Chief?

  13. gene  August 1, 2007 at 7:46 am

    As I have stated before, everyday their is something but (as serious as this stuff is) I do consider it entertainment until they start halling us away to special camps.

    Now (LFTL) above I’ve heard they (guys in black suits at these special gov camps) plan to (strongly insist) that people “like you and I” write……”Bush is my faithful master and never lies”… a thousand times without any wine for you or ativan for myself. Talk about a living hell.

    Then they will show us a picture of his (bare ass) on the wall that we will be forced to…yep, old buddy, “pucker-up” those lips. I figure I’ll be considerate and let you go first.

    Before long they will have a bunch of shinny new repubs spouting their partuclar brand of “puke”.

  14. gene  August 1, 2007 at 7:51 am

    halling should be hauling…..sorry!

  15. LurkingFromTheLeft  August 1, 2007 at 8:10 am

    THEY will have to…

    …pry my wine bottle from my cold, dead fingers –

    …hope they don’t raise the taxes on my rabbit cork puller –

    …I mean, ain’t we already been screwed enough? –

    LFTL

    P.S. As Don Henley sang, I will not go quietly, I will not back down -

  16. Sandra Price  August 1, 2007 at 7:50 am

    The problem as I see it is that Bush could be a member of Al Qaeda and nothing will be done about it. I think all Americans are going to take a hard look at “Executive Privileges.”

    It’s impossible to believe that both political parties want America to be run for their own personal gains. I think it is time to rip up my voter registration card and stop this time-consuming habit of mine to try and fix the system.

  17. LurkingFromTheLeft  August 2, 2007 at 1:33 am

    MAYBE…

    …Sandra has it ‘RIGHT’ –

    …he is the covert op to infiltrate the US –

    …this ‘GOD’ thing he rubs our nose in is REALLY the secret code word for al Queda –

    …and he’s OBL’s tent buddy –

    LFTL

  18. Sandra Price  August 1, 2007 at 10:42 am

    I was being facetious, but maybe it was an inner awakening of my psychic talents.

  19. LurkingFromTheLeft  August 1, 2007 at 11:46 am

    I knew THAT…

    …but wanted to give us yet ANOTHER opp to laugh –

    LFTL

  20. anthny  August 1, 2007 at 11:10 am

    anthny:
    It is about time we the people did know the truth about our country. It has not changed, it has always been ruled by Fascists since before the civil war. The elite own our country and always have.
    Other Presidents have kept the lie alive, but Bush and his Neo’s could give a shit whether we know they are crooks or not.
    If we were not greedy ourselves we would have solved these problems.
    So what is a lie but preception of truth.
    Maybe the Propaganda Minister Tony Snow explained it all but we were not hearing what he was saying.
    I blame the people for letting it go this far, we had the goods on Bush before he was governer of Texas, we saw him and his bunch screw up that state.
    But on a positive note change is in the air, we will become part of Canada and Mexcio, and the new dollar called the Amero will get us back to where we belong, on top of the dung heap.

  21. Elmo  August 1, 2007 at 12:19 pm

    The elite were knocked down a peg or two by the progressive movement that started in Kansas at the end of the 19th century. The 1934 coup attempt by Prescott Bush et al. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/rams/document_20070723.ram
    failed and by the end of Truman’s presidency there was something closely resembling economic parity in the USA. Those gains have been lost ( or those losses have been regained depending on your point of view ) since then with the help of both parties and the K-street puppeteers that pull their strings.

  22. long_rider  August 1, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    And still no impeachment! Americans must not care what the chimp does.

  23. Roadapple00  August 1, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    As a domestic engineer and the one who takes care of everything around the house, does that make me an executive, and if so, what kind of privledges do I get?

  24. LurkingFromTheLeft  August 1, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    Any EP’s you want –

    …after all, that is what Dumbass The 43rd awarded himself! –

    LFTL

  25. Helen Rainier  August 2, 2007 at 3:11 am

    Your castle, your rules.

    You can invoke the “Bush Doctrine”:

    You and you alone make the decisions.
    Brush up on how to compose Executive Orders.
    If anyone disagrees tell them they are on a partisan witch hunt.

    Easy deal — have fun!

  26. Rich Farris  August 1, 2007 at 6:45 pm

    Here, here, Helen. You are not alone.

    It feels like our government has become a filtration system, where all things good, honest, or wise are filtered out. It’s like our government has become this giant magnet of ignorance. When John Ashcroft left, I rejoiced. Then I learned about this new guy named Gonzalez replacing him, and all I could say to myself was, “how in the hell do they come up with these people?”

    It reminds me of the mafia, where loyalty is all that matters, because there is nothing else to cling to – least of all morality.

  27. Jeffrey B.  August 2, 2007 at 5:05 am

    LFTL;
    How about that 20,000% tax-hike on fine cigars? No, that is not a typographical error. 20,000 percent! It will raise the cost of a cigar astronomically. To put it another way, a $1.00 cigar will cost $200.00. So put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

    Got a jar of Vaseline? You had better buy your own – because THEY don’t have it in their budget…

    OUCH! That hurts!

  28. Jeffrey B.  August 2, 2007 at 5:18 am

    Elmo,

    There was no REAL coup attempt. It was merely a set up by the International Bankster elites to make the unwitting public BELIEVE that the “orchestrator” of the Raw Deal was a good guy.

    Read Banker Plot to Remove FDR Was a Ruse at http://www.savethemales.com
    This I was priviledged to share with my radio audience.

    How they try rewrite our history. It makes me puke. What will they try to tell us about Boy George in the decades to come? That he was a really, really smart guy who was just at the wrong place at the wrong time? You, he sure was – and we got stuck….

  29. LurkingFromTheLeft  August 2, 2007 at 7:16 am

    As well as saying…

    …I really don’t recall –

    LFTL

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