Full spin cycle on Gonzales

The White House accused congressional Democrats on Friday of waging a crusade to bring down U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales after lawmakers sought a perjury probe against him.

The criticism came a day after testimony by FBI Director Robert Mueller raised questions about Gonzales’ credibility under questioning by Democratic lawmakers.

Mueller told a congressional hearing he had serious reservations about a warrantless domestic spying program that Gonzales testified drew little disagreement within the administration.

Ratcheting up the bitter rhetoric between the administration and the Democratic-controlled Congress, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Senate Democrats were determined to get Gonzales.

“They have deliberately had this crusade against him to try to destroy the attorney general,” Perino told reporters.

Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer of New York brushed off charges his party was trying to destroy Gonzales. “For sure, he has already destroyed himself,” Schumer said in a statement.

Gonzales has been under attack for months over what Democrats say was the politically motivated firings of U.S. attorneys last year and over his testimony to Congress about the warrantless spying program.

The cases have become a headache for President George W. Bush’s administration, with Congress demanding internal documents and summoning aides to give testimony.

Gonzales has testified “there has not been any serious disagreement” within the administration about its surveillance program, which critics denounced as illegal.

But former Deputy Attorney General James Comey told Congress in May that concerns about the program were voiced at a 2004 meeting and a number officials had threatened to resign. On Tuesday, Gonzales said the wiretapping program was not the topic of that meeting in the hospital room of critically ill Attorney General John Ashcroft.

“The disagreement that occurred … was about other intelligence activities,” Gonzales insisted under questioning. “It was not about the terrorist surveillance program.”

Mueller’s testimony backed up Comey’s version.

Bush spokesman Tony Snow said he believed both Gonzales’ testimony and Mueller’s comments were true.

He said there had been a controversy over intelligence activities but not specifically over the wiretapping.

“I have defined very narrowly what the Terrorist Surveillance Program is. And that has never — the legal basis and the authority of that were never a matter of controversy,” Snow said.

Senate Democrats on Thursday urged that Gonzales be investigated for possible perjury. Several Democrats and Republicans have called on Gonzales to step down.

The senators on Thursday issued a subpoena to senior Bush adviser Karl Rove in their probe of the firing of nine federal prosecutors. The White House, which has said the firings were justified, contends Bush’s executive privilege shields his aides from having to testify.

(Additional reporting by Thomas Ferraro)


  1. SEAL

    One of the democrat congressmen summed it up today when he said, “If you kicked a republican in the heart, you would break your toe.” I think that pretty well describes the problem.

  2. Helen Rainier

    Bryan — OMG! I’m ROFLMAO — “…if my dog had wheels he’d be a F*#%ing wagon …”

    Brilliant and so damned funny.

    Thanks for the belly laugh! 😉

  3. nigeldh

    Don’t forget that these are the folks who outed a covert CIA agent. Plus they put up two Supreme Court Justices with a snow job/FUD that even Sen. Spector is now looking at.

    Don’t forget that Prescott Bush and high friends in business wanted to make the US Fascist back in the 1930’s. BBC report and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

    Looks like It Can’t Happen Here was actually reading someone’s mail.

  4. LurkingFromTheLeft

    Since all the good comments

    …were already posted, I’ll just say –



  5. JudyB

    It seems obvious to all that have been paying attention, that Gonzales has committed perjury. The problem is (as has already been stated) most Americans are not paying attention. For most American citizens “Their Government” is a distant entity in which they have no say. And, sadly for the most part after we have cast our votes, we don’t have anything to say about what goes on in Congress or the White House. With this administration the blatent abuse of power and constant lying by Bush/Cheney have caused the masses to become aware do to their bogus reasons for war, but again, they feel they are powerless to do anything about it…and “THEY” have been right thus far. The ONLY thing that will cause the majority of Congressman to act on his constituants behalf, is the fear of not being re-elected. I would like to applaud all those who have sought to get the truth told and the guilty punished….However, All of this investigating will most likely be meaningless because we have a “Decider ‘N Chief” who will not allow his henchmen to testify under oath or on record..and if one of “HIS OWN(ed)” gets caught perjuring they will be pardoned and their punishment erased. So, as I see it, we “Our Government” when it comes to paying the bills but we have a voice ONLY on election day (and I’m not too sure about that since the 2000 election)

  6. gene

    I read that article (LFTL). This nation is deaf, dumb, and blind with the exception of a few. Of course these evil bastards that pretent to be our leaders and talk about justice are aware also, thats why their premeditated (criminal) actions continue.

  7. gene

    Well next week is now here so eveyone be careful out their is “crazy land” USA. I will be watching the stocks. This subprime lending crap which was cut up into ridiculous investment instruments and sold to pension funds, insurance companys, states, banks and other financial institutions by hundreds of hedge funds is spreading throughout the financial world like a virulent cancer. This insatiable desire to get rich with out hard work is crashing down around these very foolish people. Will be interesting to watch as it progresses.

  8. bryan mcclellan

    Thanks Helen, I can’t take credit for that one though,it’s been around since God was a boy….

  9. John_Evans

    This is off-topic, and I hope a moderator catches it and doesn’t let it go through, but I’m going this route because I can’t figure out any other way to send an email to Doug / the editors (probably an “oversight” on my part). I can’t find any mention on the site of the allegations that slave labor was used in the construction of the US Embassy in Iraq, per the testimony of Mr. Rory Mayberry before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on Friday. Would someone please either point me to the commentary on this topic or, if none yet exists, take it up and try to determine what really happened? Here is the link to the youtube entry for Mr. Mayberry’s opening statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evRPwwyno_c

  10. KayInMaine

    Well, one thing is for sure…

    …we know the Bush Regime is consistent in their lying, their deceiving, their propaganda, and consistent in holding a steady stream of piss down our backs why they continue to tell us it’s raining (tap line of my blog)! Oh yes. I’ve never seen so many people in ONE White House tell me, “Look! A birdie! Look at the pretty birdie! Come here birdie! The American people want to see you! Pretty, huh American people!?!”, to just divert our attention away.

    Effing tired of them all and would prefer to see all of them rounded up and bound for prison.


  11. JudyB

    Note to Gene…I am so happy that you survived your horrible accident yesterday(Sun.) Yes life is worth living and it often takes something that threatens our lives to make us realize how fragile and precious it is truely is. Stay in your survival mode” and continue posting on CHB..I love reading your rants & raves! None of us should ever allow for even a moment any government from making us want to live…the bastards in charge are not worth it no matter who they are!

  12. Helen Rainier


    Thanks for your good wishes. I was somewhat sore yesterday but woke up this morning feeling much better. The insurance adjuster called me yesterday morning and told me from the way I described the damages she is 99.9% certain the car will be considered a “total” loss. This will be busy week with calls to make and insurance issues to be dealt with. Needless to say, I will be keeping a “low profile” for the next several days.

    Again, I appreciate your concern and thank you for your good wishes.

    I am just going to keep on keeping on. What else is there to do? Life has to go on in spite of the BS and the things that happen.

  13. DejaVuAllOver

    The problem is simple: this country has ALWAYS been a bunch of right-wing-ultra-regious-capitalist-pigs. Without writing a book, because so many have done it better than I could, read some Howard Zinn if you want to know the sickening truth about the obscene lengths this country goes to, to defend the entitlements of those who don’t want to work for a living. And find out what happens to those (like me) who have the guts to speak out. It ain’t pretty, folks. This country is Hell-on-earth, as far as I’m concerned. We’re rich, fat, stupid, arrogant, mean and stupid. Did I mention stupid? Just like Gonzales and his enablers. But whadaya expect from a “guy” who talks like a 10 year old girl? I’ll bet this turd got the crap kicked out of him a lot when he was young. He deserves the same, still.

  14. gene

    (DejaVuAllO) dam where did that (name?) come from?

    Your comment is the best summation I have read so far. In just a few words you hit some areas I did not want to confess. Wasn’t it Donald Rumsfeld that said “our way of life is not negotiable”. How can all this sickness and stupidity not be negotiable. He (Rumsfeld) may live long enough to “eat” those words.

  15. bryan mcclellan

    Yeah right mr snowjob ,and if my dog had wheels he’d be a F#*king wagon.More turds popping to the surface of smirks cesspool administration than we can count,and so far congress can’t find the handle to flush or a pump truck large enough to haul the overflow.I expect perinos head to fly off any moment now from all the spinning her and frattoulence have been doing.How in the name of common sense can anyone support this pack of shithole plumbers and look themselves and their families in the eye ???

  16. SEAL

    The problem is not that the democrats aren’t exposing all the lies and dishonesty. They are. The problem is that the only people who know it are those on the Internet. Those that are interested and paying attention. Keith Ober… is the only journalist that is reporting it. When any of the mainstream media says anything about any of it they always color it the Bushco way.

    The general public doesn’t know what is going on because they don’t see it.

  17. bryan mcclellan

    You are on the mark Seal. By the time msm gets finished editing all we hear are the sound bites from the sphincters of spew in the W.H. I have to hand it to Olberdude also,seems he is the only one not afraid to call this bunch the gaggle of foul balls they truly are.I have one friend who is not fooled, the rest all parrot fux noise and think coultergiest is a babe. Needless to say my circle of friends has diminished greatly this past six years.Funny thing,I’m not at all broke up about it. Hey Gene, this Heineken is for you………

  18. gene

    Thanks (bryan), just so happens Heineken Light is my absolute favorite beer. Drink one or two almost everyday now, along with an ativan. I eat right and exercise almost everday so I don’t feel I abuse these privileges and they are. You, Seal, Carl Nemo, Sandra Price, Helen, (my abosolute favority (LFTL) and others at CHB have become my extended family. I admire and respect all of you and I consider what we discuss here “very serious stuff”…obviously it is.

    These are dangereous times and like you and Seal just mention, most individuals in this nation are simply (NOT AWARE). That doesn’t make them bad or us special but unfortuneately we need large numbers (of people) to even attempt to change this insidious evil. Its been going on now for a very long time and I will confess, I am not looking forward to the full impact when the “real shit (this evil) his the real fan (people like you and I). Its getting to the point in all seriousness that I wonder at times is life even worth living knowing what lies ahead will “not be pretty”. Of course in monents like that, ativan and a heineken (light) helps but certainly is not a concrete answer, just some relief.

    Like many here I have been surfing the web learning about what we discuss here at CHB and much more. I would rather know than to be ignorant of all this evil and their are so many (most) that have no ideal.

    Thanks again, all of you. I don’t feel quit so alone anymore. Actually bryan, I consider you and others my true friends and trust people here even more that I do my own family.

    God I hope (LFTL) isn’t crying.

  19. gene

    NO COMMENT!!! yep, thats right, an’t got a dam thing to say.
    Well, mabe one…….WHERE IS THAT DAM BOTTLE OF ATIVAN!!!

  20. gene

    It would seem that many really don’t understand. I know for a fact that survival is their main concern and rightly so. To be politically sophisticated, ie. understanding todays current events as in (we the people are in deep shit) is just not something that the (average) individual of today can comprehend. These are NOT bad people, their just simple minded, somewhat uneducated and simply trying to get by.

    NOW, here’s the deal: Its going to get much worse, probably starting next week. This is from a financial insight and that is what really impacts the average Joe public, ie. money and do I have it and if I do is it enough?

    All this is going to change in the near future. How much? well we will just have to see but change is going to happen. The heat will intensify and stress will increase so plan your days well and good luck!!

  21. Helen Rainier

    Gene — It is so damned difficult in these days of hatred and vitriol to remain positive and hopeful and still believe in the inherent goodness of humanity. The best way I’ve found for me to deal with it is to be the absolute best person (from a moral and spiritual POV) that I can be every day. There are very simple things we all can do which WILL make us feel better and make others feel better. Here are a few I do whenever I have the opportunity to do so:

    1. Holding a door open for someone.
    2. Bagging groceries for an elderly or disabled person. Help them unload their groceries from a cart while waiting in line.
    3. Greet people you run into with a smile and a “Good Morning” or “Hi.”
    5. Flirt with a baby — it’s so delightful to make a baby a laugh or smile.
    6. Treat people with respect and dignity.
    7. I live in close proximity to both an Army post and an Air Force base (Lewis and McChord, WA state). As I go about each and every day, invariably I run across someone on active duty. I always approach them with an “Excuse me. Thank you very much for your service to our country.” I then ask if they’ve been to the ME and a few questions about their experiences. I shake their hand, tell them I am an Army vet and I just want them to know that I am proud of them, of their sacrifices, and appreciate them. It always amazes me how surprised they are and, as is par for the course, they are very humble about it — the old “I’m just doing my job” line.
    8. Look for the beauty in each and every day. This is particularly easy for me as I am able to see the magnificent beauty of the Olympic Mountains and Mt. Rainier on almost a daily basis. Look for joy in the basic and simple things in life.

    I realize some people might think some of these things are really cheesy or hokey, but they work for me and I believe that in my own way I am leaving my little part of the world a better place.

    BTW, can you tell I’m a 60s hippie at heart? 😉

    Oh yes, when you want to soar like an eagle, don’t let the vultures keep you down!

  22. gene

    (bryan) please strike the above statement I made about is “life even worth living”…yes it definitely is and doing what is right can be posssible. Its the choices we make. I refuse to accept defeat on a personal bases, we all should feel that way. So, we fight when theirs opportunity, we try and do right and prepare ourselves for what lies ahead the best way we can. But it doesn’t mean to lie down and quit or run the other way. Life is worth living if it means dieing for something that can be honored by the word truth.

    Many individuals have grown so cold and evil they simpley do not have a conscious and deceive themselves.

  23. gene

    Encouraging words Helen and it has been awhile since I have heard any. Sometimes this world can sure leave a person dry, especially now in these times. Your suggestions were not “cheesy or hokey”…you (as a person) have not forgot how too care, a trait that almost does not exsist in the last few generatons. No doubt we are in a mess and this current white house gain of criminals (photo in article) have just about obliteraed what I grew up and strongly cared about, still do. I personally am grateful for everything and was proud to serve this nation at one time. I cannot claim that now. The nation I new is gone and I seriously doubt it will ever return. Much of what was good has been very effectively (brain washed) out of this society.

    Have a safe week.

  24. Helen Rainier


    I should have read this response before I left home this morning.

    What follows is totally OT, but I need to share it: I decided to make a “road trip” this morning to Mt. St. Helen’s. Sounded like a fun trip to do and being Sunday a good way to spend the day. Went up to Mt. Rainier yesterday and just wanted to go check out St. Helen’s today.

    I just bought a “new” car (2004) that just turned 36,000 miles. It was raining all the way down, and when I turned into the MSH entrance it was still raining. Still had about a 50 mile drive up to the USGS Johnston Volcano Observatory. Got about half way up there and had a serious accident. Still not sure exactly what and how it happened, but I ended up spinning out across two lanes of traffic and rolling my car over.

    It ended up upside down and fortunately I was able to crawl out through the passenger’s window. My cell phone was in the vehicle and I couldn’t get to it. Took a few minutes for me to process what happened and mentally tick off what I had to and in what order I had to do it.

    Within five minutes, a man coming down from higher up stopped to render assistance. Several more cars and people stopped to help. Someone called 9-1-1 and the WA State Patrol dispatched a trooper (who was approximately 60 miles away). All of these very kind and generous people stopped to help, ask if I was OK, if there was anything they could do to help me.

    Turns out the first guy who stopped was an Army vet (paratrooper & Ranger) and he administered first aid. Some abrasions from the broken glass — car will most likely be totalled out.

    Serious, serious front end damage — roof on driver’s side smushed in. The trooper said it was a good thing I had the seatbelt on because it probably saved my life.

    Called a good friend I’ve made since I’ve been here and he was about two hours drive away. But he told me he would get there as soon as he could to bring me back home here to Tacoma. By the time the accident report was done, the tow truck got there, righted the car and hooked it up, we got back down the mountain, my friend arrived. Bless his heart. He’s a stand-up man and friend — which I told him today.

    Something else interesting: After the trooper arrived and was in charge — at one point — about ten more cars in a row stopped and all offered assistance. It almost looked like a parade pulled over on the side of the road. Trooper said he had never seen anything like that before — that usually once law enforcement arrives on the scene other drivers normally don’t stop to render assistance.

    I am okay — as I said, minor abrasions but am fully capable of walking, talking, holding rational conversations, and extremely thankful to be here to share this with you. All I could do after it happened was just say “Wow, what happened.” I am also highly ticked at myself, but, very grateful and appreciative that I came out of it OK.

    I was very happy to finally get home here, chill out, and enjoy the company of my cats (two).

    At any rate, when you do good, the karma WILL come back to you when you least expect it.

    Thanks for letting me unload this on you all. I feel very close to this group of folks.

    I will HAVE a very SAFE evening. I’m not moving out of my home — popped a winecooler and ready to take a nap — I need it. Haven’t even cried yet — still operating in survival mode, I guess.

  25. nuQler Ostrich

    It’s my Senator’s fault indeed.

    He failed to do his job.

    Bill Nelson, is the man whom I hold responsible for voting to confirm Abu Gonzales, George W. Bush’s Obsequious Instrument, as Attorney General. He should have been shunned by every Senator who understands why the Senate even has “Advice and Consent” responsibility.

    This is an absolute failure of Senator Nelson to heed the warning issued by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist Papers #76.


    I called repeatedly during the hearings, pleading with Senator Nelson to listen to the wise advice of our founding fathers, but to no avail.

    I lay this situation directly at his feet.

    There is a good reason why the Senate was granted “Advice and Consent” in Article II of the Constitution. The President should have been ashamed to nominate such an Obsequious Instrument, but this President has no shame. And therefore the job falls to the Senate to weed out those “candidates who had no other merit than that of coming from the same State to which he particularly belonged, or of being in some way or other personally allied to him, or of possessing the necessary insignificance and pliancy to render them the obsequious instruments of his pleasure.”

    The Senate FAILED! Weak-kneed and pliant, they didn’t do their job. PERIOD!

    I suggest calling all your Senators and laying the blame on them as well. It’s their failure that has allowed the Obsequious Instrument to even be in the position to thumb his nose at them.

    They took a solemn oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution against all enemies, and many of them failed to even read up on what that promise entails.

    Shame shame shame!

  26. Klaus Hergeschimmer


  27. ryderj

    The last refuge of scoundrels is patriotism. The White House Gonzales damage control efforts once again prove that the last refuge of scum is phony indignation.