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		<title>By: AustinRanter - AKA Gregg</title>
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		<dc:creator>AustinRanter - AKA Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[History seems to disappear every presidential election.

How many presidents have been elected since George Washington?  

Every presidential candidate since good ole George has made empty promise after empty promise.

My question is:  Is there a single electorate in America (past or present) that HAS NOT complained about campaigning politicians lying and making upkept promises after every single election ever held?

WHY IN THE HELL do people still get pissed about being lied to by politicians?  Apparently, we have aways been a nation of idiots who continue to believe campaign lies and then get pissed when their not kept. 

When are we (the electorates) going to learn from the past?  

There&#039;s not a single president after George Washington that hasn&#039;t become a victim of the wreckage of the past from previous presidents....and in some cases, many previous presidents.  

All of the bitching and moaning about these issues are way too old and are nothing more than the public making excuses about a system of government and polilitics gone bad rather than accepting responsibility for their ignorance and lack of participation in the system.

People need to pull their heads out of their asses and wake up about political lies and unkept promises.  How about people engaging in some self-honesty about his and her denial about the real problem with our political and government systems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History seems to disappear every presidential election.</p>
<p>How many presidents have been elected since George Washington?  </p>
<p>Every presidential candidate since good ole George has made empty promise after empty promise.</p>
<p>My question is:  Is there a single electorate in America (past or present) that HAS NOT complained about campaigning politicians lying and making upkept promises after every single election ever held?</p>
<p>WHY IN THE HELL do people still get pissed about being lied to by politicians?  Apparently, we have aways been a nation of idiots who continue to believe campaign lies and then get pissed when their not kept. </p>
<p>When are we (the electorates) going to learn from the past?  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s not a single president after George Washington that hasn&#8217;t become a victim of the wreckage of the past from previous presidents&#8230;.and in some cases, many previous presidents.  </p>
<p>All of the bitching and moaning about these issues are way too old and are nothing more than the public making excuses about a system of government and polilitics gone bad rather than accepting responsibility for their ignorance and lack of participation in the system.</p>
<p>People need to pull their heads out of their asses and wake up about political lies and unkept promises.  How about people engaging in some self-honesty about his and her denial about the real problem with our political and government systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Senegoid</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/27248/comment-page-1#comment-65005</link>
		<dc:creator>Senegoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 14:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The man who strives to be everything to everyone usually ends up being nothing to nobody, or so a very pissed leprachaun told me one night as we zig zagged home from the pub.

Change you can believe in, mmmmm sounds about right to me; the punters get the change and the big guys get the f*cking rest.

Oh well democracy was good while it lasted, I wonder what fascism will be like?

I suppose by the time they come to take us away we&#039;ll all be flat broke anyway, hey, free digs in a detention centre sounds great to me; I hope I&#039;ll get a room to meself.

Anyway I&#039;m off back to the pub, may as well sing a song as I wend my way....

&quot;Look out for the cheater, look  for out for  the two hearted clown, look out for the cheetah cause he&#039;ll built you up just to let you down....&quot;

Hic, f*ck, there&#039;s that bloody leprachaun again; cheap bastard, never shouts, but he gives good advice - sometimes.

Top of the mornin...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man who strives to be everything to everyone usually ends up being nothing to nobody, or so a very pissed leprachaun told me one night as we zig zagged home from the pub.</p>
<p>Change you can believe in, mmmmm sounds about right to me; the punters get the change and the big guys get the f*cking rest.</p>
<p>Oh well democracy was good while it lasted, I wonder what fascism will be like?</p>
<p>I suppose by the time they come to take us away we&#8217;ll all be flat broke anyway, hey, free digs in a detention centre sounds great to me; I hope I&#8217;ll get a room to meself.</p>
<p>Anyway I&#8217;m off back to the pub, may as well sing a song as I wend my way&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Look out for the cheater, look  for out for  the two hearted clown, look out for the cheetah cause he&#8217;ll built you up just to let you down&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hic, f*ck, there&#8217;s that bloody leprachaun again; cheap bastard, never shouts, but he gives good advice &#8211; sometimes.</p>
<p>Top of the mornin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: griff</title>
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		<dc:creator>griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 04:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Democrats relying on intellectual debates? That&#039;s a laugh. Name one.

Wishing Obama was more like FDR says it all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Democrats relying on intellectual debates? That&#8217;s a laugh. Name one.</p>
<p>Wishing Obama was more like FDR says it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Almandine</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/27248/comment-page-1#comment-64960</link>
		<dc:creator>Almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 01:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;system&quot; has long been controlled by the &quot;empire builders&quot; and will continue to be so as long as the national dialogue sets Dems against Repubs as a democratic way to &quot;iron out our problems&quot;. That tendency toward dualist arguments is the biggest fallacy of modern politics with its co-dependent MSM, web sites and blogs. Them against us... left v right, liberals fighting conservatives and vice versa... divide and conquer... parlor games raised to a mesmerizing art form. The goal: take advantage of peoples&#039; beliefs, publicize them, create factions for or against the issue of the day, set decades-long processes in motion (right to choose, civil rights, etc) to keep folks focused away from the most meaningful issues related to the fate of humanity.   

Can the BS be stopped, averted, changed ? The US public will have to continue their awakening and demand a return to constitutional govt to have a chance at all. Time is running out.
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;system&#8221; has long been controlled by the &#8220;empire builders&#8221; and will continue to be so as long as the national dialogue sets Dems against Repubs as a democratic way to &#8220;iron out our problems&#8221;. That tendency toward dualist arguments is the biggest fallacy of modern politics with its co-dependent MSM, web sites and blogs. Them against us&#8230; left v right, liberals fighting conservatives and vice versa&#8230; divide and conquer&#8230; parlor games raised to a mesmerizing art form. The goal: take advantage of peoples&#8217; beliefs, publicize them, create factions for or against the issue of the day, set decades-long processes in motion (right to choose, civil rights, etc) to keep folks focused away from the most meaningful issues related to the fate of humanity.   </p>
<p>Can the BS be stopped, averted, changed ? The US public will have to continue their awakening and demand a return to constitutional govt to have a chance at all. Time is running out.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 22:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thomas Bonsell:

I didn&#039;t refer to your article as a list of broken promises, but the list of empty campaign trail rhetoric provided by Griff&#039;s post through my supplied link. To me your post was simply a comparative history of Republican vs. Democratic presidencies since JFK to present.  I found it interesting, but it doesn&#039;t soften the sting that I and millions of other voters feel relative to the public production that Obama &amp; Co. pulled off to achieve his election to the Presidency. 

&quot;It’s a superb laundry list of Obama’s hollow promises.&quot; ... extract from my post referencing Griff&#039;s link material

My greatest disappointment with this President are the appointees with whom he&#039;s surrounded himself as V.P., advisers, czars etc.;i.e., Joe Biden, Bob Rubin, Larry Summers, Rahm Emanuel, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, Madelaine Albright, Richard Holbrooke, Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, Anthony Lake, Lee Hamilton, Susan Rice, et al. You can read about them in the &quot;Red Ice Creations&quot; link I provided within the blog post. The link is still hot and can be copied and pasted to fetch the site.  Timothy Geithner is a fresh face, but it turns out he&#039;s another with ties to the Goldman Sachs and Federal Reserve monoliths that are linked ever so deeply to both national and international financial travails facing this nation and the world at large including Greece&#039;s financial meltdown. 

Here&#039;s the link to my inauguration day blog post concerning this President. 

 http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/13830

This President has provided us with nothing unique to claim his presidency, but seemingly as I&#039;ve stated as before in other articles I&#039;ve written is simply a &quot;holding president&quot;; simply appointing many of the same people that have gotten us into our current fix as a nation whether it&#039;s banking related, defense, foreign policy, domestic management issues, re: current Gulf debacle etc.  As the days go by he seems ever more casual, ever more ellusive and secretive relative to the press.  It seems he was &quot;synthesized&quot; to provide a holding presidency while the shadowy power brokers that have controlled this country transgenerationally can regroup and come back to power to operate their ongoing &quot;Casa Nostra&quot;  enterprise; ie., the flagship party of the corporatist elite Republicans.  The Democrats are nothing but the holding party between republican tenure, offering the people false hope while continuing to facilitate nation-destroying policies foisted upon us by the Republicans.  That&#039;s what happens when a two party system has degenerated into a duopoly both controlled by the same corporate interests.  Our entire process has become &quot;smoke and mirrors&quot;  and as Griff said...&quot;it&#039;s the system stupid!&quot;.   

I&#039;m not calling you stupid. It&#039;s simply an expression concerning our national plight when it comes to playing this continual two-party game that continually gives us the same results or worse.  : &#124;  

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Bonsell:</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t refer to your article as a list of broken promises, but the list of empty campaign trail rhetoric provided by Griff&#8217;s post through my supplied link. To me your post was simply a comparative history of Republican vs. Democratic presidencies since JFK to present.  I found it interesting, but it doesn&#8217;t soften the sting that I and millions of other voters feel relative to the public production that Obama &amp; Co. pulled off to achieve his election to the Presidency. </p>
<p>&#8220;It’s a superb laundry list of Obama’s hollow promises.&#8221; &#8230; extract from my post referencing Griff&#8217;s link material</p>
<p>My greatest disappointment with this President are the appointees with whom he&#8217;s surrounded himself as V.P., advisers, czars etc.;i.e., Joe Biden, Bob Rubin, Larry Summers, Rahm Emanuel, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, Madelaine Albright, Richard Holbrooke, Dennis Ross, Martin Indyk, Anthony Lake, Lee Hamilton, Susan Rice, et al. You can read about them in the &#8220;Red Ice Creations&#8221; link I provided within the blog post. The link is still hot and can be copied and pasted to fetch the site.  Timothy Geithner is a fresh face, but it turns out he&#8217;s another with ties to the Goldman Sachs and Federal Reserve monoliths that are linked ever so deeply to both national and international financial travails facing this nation and the world at large including Greece&#8217;s financial meltdown. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link to my inauguration day blog post concerning this President. </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/13830" rel="nofollow">http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/13830</a></p>
<p>This President has provided us with nothing unique to claim his presidency, but seemingly as I&#8217;ve stated as before in other articles I&#8217;ve written is simply a &#8220;holding president&#8221;; simply appointing many of the same people that have gotten us into our current fix as a nation whether it&#8217;s banking related, defense, foreign policy, domestic management issues, re: current Gulf debacle etc.  As the days go by he seems ever more casual, ever more ellusive and secretive relative to the press.  It seems he was &#8220;synthesized&#8221; to provide a holding presidency while the shadowy power brokers that have controlled this country transgenerationally can regroup and come back to power to operate their ongoing &#8220;Casa Nostra&#8221;  enterprise; ie., the flagship party of the corporatist elite Republicans.  The Democrats are nothing but the holding party between republican tenure, offering the people false hope while continuing to facilitate nation-destroying policies foisted upon us by the Republicans.  That&#8217;s what happens when a two party system has degenerated into a duopoly both controlled by the same corporate interests.  Our entire process has become &#8220;smoke and mirrors&#8221;  and as Griff said&#8230;&#8221;it&#8217;s the system stupid!&#8221;.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not calling you stupid. It&#8217;s simply an expression concerning our national plight when it comes to playing this continual two-party game that continually gives us the same results or worse.  : |  </p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Bonsell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Bonsell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl:

I have read that article and don&#039;t see a whole laundry list of broken promises.

I see a timid president who tries to avoid the pitfalls of the past and tries to get along by getting along. Everyone should understand that if he went wholesale into major changes the rabid right would conjure up scandal after scandal, just at it did against Clinton, when in the end there was only one &quot;scandal&quot;; that is taking advantage of a horny intern who wanted to &quot;do&quot; the President.  All the other &quot;scandals&quot; were only bulltikki.

I remember well that just weeks after inauguration, as the stock market continued to plunge and thousands lost their jobs in the continuing trickle-down depression, the right, the media and many at this site continued to scream that &quot;it&#039;s Obama&#039;s economy now&quot; and he was called an economic failure.  

But by late spring, the slide had ended, the stock market began a recovery and another depression averted, but Obama was still labeled an economic failure because millions of jobs hadn&#039;t been created.  If anyone would ever research economic issues they would find that jobs will start to come back a year or so after a sever recession has ended. Well, jobs started a meager comeback in the past month or so, right on target, but that doesn&#039;t prevent the &quot;failure&quot; crap coming from the right.

I wish Obama were more like FDR who said he welcomed his enemies&#039; hatred. Obama only tries to facilitate his haters, and that isn&#039;t failure even though many like to claim it to be so.

We see the right at work with Darth Cheney and his evil spawn, Liz, trying to label Obama  failure on &quot;homeland security&quot; even though the US has has been free of terrorist attacks eight months longer under Obama than it was under Bush the Unfit and Cheney&#039;s watch.

Let&#039;s not be in such a hurry to claim &quot;failure&quot; so soon; real success takes much longer to achieve than does destruction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl:</p>
<p>I have read that article and don&#8217;t see a whole laundry list of broken promises.</p>
<p>I see a timid president who tries to avoid the pitfalls of the past and tries to get along by getting along. Everyone should understand that if he went wholesale into major changes the rabid right would conjure up scandal after scandal, just at it did against Clinton, when in the end there was only one &#8220;scandal&#8221;; that is taking advantage of a horny intern who wanted to &#8220;do&#8221; the President.  All the other &#8220;scandals&#8221; were only bulltikki.</p>
<p>I remember well that just weeks after inauguration, as the stock market continued to plunge and thousands lost their jobs in the continuing trickle-down depression, the right, the media and many at this site continued to scream that &#8220;it&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s economy now&#8221; and he was called an economic failure.  </p>
<p>But by late spring, the slide had ended, the stock market began a recovery and another depression averted, but Obama was still labeled an economic failure because millions of jobs hadn&#8217;t been created.  If anyone would ever research economic issues they would find that jobs will start to come back a year or so after a sever recession has ended. Well, jobs started a meager comeback in the past month or so, right on target, but that doesn&#8217;t prevent the &#8220;failure&#8221; crap coming from the right.</p>
<p>I wish Obama were more like FDR who said he welcomed his enemies&#8217; hatred. Obama only tries to facilitate his haters, and that isn&#8217;t failure even though many like to claim it to be so.</p>
<p>We see the right at work with Darth Cheney and his evil spawn, Liz, trying to label Obama  failure on &#8220;homeland security&#8221; even though the US has has been free of terrorist attacks eight months longer under Obama than it was under Bush the Unfit and Cheney&#8217;s watch.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not be in such a hurry to claim &#8220;failure&#8221; so soon; real success takes much longer to achieve than does destruction.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Bonsell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Bonsell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl:

The disappointment i find in Obama is that he looked at the problems of the past two Democratic Presidents and tried to avoid them with tepid responses and working within the &quot;system.&quot; He should have never tried for bipartisanship an anything. The proper action to get bipartisanship is the show the Republican Party he could crush them on any action. Only then would they come to join in solving problems they created. He didn&#039;t do that.

The problem with the Democratic Party is that it is comprised of moderates and progressives who insist on an intellectual debate on all things, while the GOP walks in lockstep with one voice telling them how to think.  That is perceived as &quot;failure&quot; by Demos. The Dems should learn to imitate that GOP tactic because intellectual discourse in America seems to be futile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl:</p>
<p>The disappointment i find in Obama is that he looked at the problems of the past two Democratic Presidents and tried to avoid them with tepid responses and working within the &#8220;system.&#8221; He should have never tried for bipartisanship an anything. The proper action to get bipartisanship is the show the Republican Party he could crush them on any action. Only then would they come to join in solving problems they created. He didn&#8217;t do that.</p>
<p>The problem with the Democratic Party is that it is comprised of moderates and progressives who insist on an intellectual debate on all things, while the GOP walks in lockstep with one voice telling them how to think.  That is perceived as &#8220;failure&#8221; by Demos. The Dems should learn to imitate that GOP tactic because intellectual discourse in America seems to be futile.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama and his associates are looking and acting more like “Ferengi” as time goes on… / : &#124;

Carl Nemo **==]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama and his associates are looking and acting more like “Ferengi” as time goes on… / : |</p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: woody188</title>
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		<dc:creator>woody188</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 04:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Maureen has &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spock&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spock&lt;/a&gt; mixed up with &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvok&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tuvok.&lt;/a&gt;  Leonard Nimoy has been awesome as the William Bell character on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fox.com/fringe/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fringe&lt;/a&gt;.  Don&#039;t mess with Trekkie&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Maureen has <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spock" rel="nofollow">Spock</a> mixed up with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvok" rel="nofollow">Tuvok.</a>  Leonard Nimoy has been awesome as the William Bell character on <a href="http://www.fox.com/fringe/" rel="nofollow">Fringe</a>.  Don&#8217;t mess with Trekkie&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: griff</title>
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		<dc:creator>griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 04:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I detect a theme here. So the Democrats fail to undo or block Republican policies, as we saw with the &quot;mandate&quot; of 2006 and again with Obama, but the Democrats are just hapless victims in this scheme.

Ha. What a joke. Apologism at it&#039;s finest.

It&#039;s the system, stupid!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I detect a theme here. So the Democrats fail to undo or block Republican policies, as we saw with the &#8220;mandate&#8221; of 2006 and again with Obama, but the Democrats are just hapless victims in this scheme.</p>
<p>Ha. What a joke. Apologism at it&#8217;s finest.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the system, stupid!</p>
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