Lieberman: Bomb Iran now

Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Sunday the United States should consider a military strike against Iran because of Tehran's involvement in Iraq.

"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," Lieberman said. "And to me, that would include a strike over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers."

The U.S. accuses Iran of fostering terrorism and Tehran's nuclear ambitions have brought about international reproach.

Lieberman, the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2000 who now represents Connecticut as an independent, spoke of Iranians' role in the continued violence in Iraq.

"We've said so publicly that the Iranians have a base in Iran at which they are training Iraqis who are coming in and killing Americans. By some estimates, they have killed as many as 200 American soldiers," Lieberman said. "Well, we can tell them we want them to stop that. But if there's any hope of the Iranians living according to the international rule of law and stopping, for instance, their nuclear weapons development, we can't just talk to them."

He added, "If they don't play by the rules, we've got to use our force, and to me, that would include taking military action to stop them from doing what they're doing."

Lieberman said much of the action could probably be done by air, although he would leave the strategy to the generals in charge. "I want to make clear I'm not talking about a massive ground invasion of Iran," Lieberman said.

"They can't believe that they have immunity for training and equipping people to come in and kill Americans," he said. "We cannot let them get away with it. If we do, they'll take that as a sign of weakness on our part and we will pay for it in Iraq and throughout the region and ultimately right here at home."

To deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions, Democratic presidential hopeful Bill Richardson said tough negotiation is called for.

"I would talk to them, but I would build an international coalition that would promote and push economic sanctions on them," Richardson said. "Sanctions would work on Iran. They are susceptible to disinvestment policy. They are susceptible to cuts, economic sanctions in commodities."

On Friday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Iran's detention of at least four Americans is unwarranted but will not stop Washington from trying to engage Iran on other matters, including its disputed nuclear program and alleged support of insurgents in Iraq.

In an Associated Press interview, Rice also appeared to cast doubt on whether the U.S. would take its tentative diplomatic outreach to Iran any further for now.

The U.S. and Iranian ambassadors in Iraq met last month for the first public, substantive high-level discussions the two countries have held in nearly three decades. Although limited to the topic of violence and instability in Iraq, the talks have been seen as a possible window to better relations.

Immediately after the meeting in Baghdad, Iran announced plans for another. But U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker said Washington would decide only after the Iraqi government issued an invitation.

U.S. officials also said they wanted to see Iran follow up on U.S. complaints that it is equipping and helping insurgents who attack American forces.

Lieberman spoke on "Face the Nation" on CBS. Richardson was on "Late Edition" on CNN.

26 Responses to "Lieberman: Bomb Iran now"

  1. Paolo  June 11, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    I’d be laughing myself silly about Lieberman, if only this insane war hadn’t cost 3,500 American lives, and somewhere between 100,000 and 600,000 Iraqi lives, depending on how you calculate it.

    Here’s what Lieberman said:

    “Well, we can tell them we want them to stop that. But if there’s any hope of the Iranians living according to the international rule of law and stopping, for instance, their nuclear weapons development, we can’t just talk to them.”

    Got it? Lieberman’s complaining about the Iranians not “living according to international rule of law.” Hey, warmongering neocons–how about taking a look in the mirror? The whole war in Iraq was contrary to international law (unprovoked attack on a sovereign country that had not threatened us), as well as constitutional law (Congress alone has the power to declare war, which it didn’t do).

    Those who misled this country into attacking a sovereign nation that had not threatened us are WAR CRIMINALS who should be brought up on charges in the Hague. After all, this was the terrible crime for which we hanged NAZI war criminals after WWII.

    What a phenomenal, flaming hypocrite.

  2. Even Steven Monton  June 11, 2007 at 2:27 pm

    LIEberman does NOT represent the interests of the American people.

    He has shown who he represents….clearly.

  3. Jenifer D.  June 11, 2007 at 3:08 pm

    But, war is forever it seems. When I saw the post on Lieberman demanding that the U.S. bomb Iran, my stomach clenched. What is wrong with these elected assholes? Do they not realize that attacking yet another country, completly unprovoked, is going to do much more harm than good? We are a nation of extremists in the eyes of the Arab nations; We are the imperialist occupiers who wish to usurp world power by any means necessary, even if it means sending our men and women in uniform into harm’s way to die…..and for what? Lies. The U.S. is eye-ball deep in debt to countries not considered friendly by any means.

    As the media reports it; the military is stretched beyond the breaking point; personnel-wise, and financially. I’m wondering how the administration manages to pony up the money to support the massive payroll every month.

  4. gene  June 11, 2007 at 4:07 pm

    I have a question. Am I dreaming or is “all this shit” really happening? When you start to look around this world, especially here in the states…..well its a dam weird, 5th demension, literally unbelievable ‘WORLD!!!!’

    Why go to the movies anymore, hollywood can’t compare too (todays and tomorrows) reality.

    Please…..FOR GOD SAKE!! (crying)………LIE and tell me I’m dreaming.

  5. Beelza B ubb  June 11, 2007 at 4:11 pm

    Beelza Bubb
    If we follow this foolish “Independent” Senator’s advise and choose to use “bunker busters” on Iran I wager that within two years time we would find ourselves living in a World where there are fifty nuclear armed nations instead of the present nine we know about.
    The present nine are the US, Russia, Britain, France, China, India, Israel, Pakistan and North Korea.
    Insecurity breeds insecurity. Stupidity breeds stupidity. Arrogance breeds arrogance. and Ignorance breeds ignorance.
    With the present sad state of our leadership unable to cope with nine nuclear armed nations how can we expect these same leaders to cope with fifty nuclear armed nations?
    This is no time for sleepwalking. And , Oh yes, Nepotism breeds nepotism.
    It is time to get some “NEW BLOOD” in the Executive (White House), Legislative (Senate, House of Representatives) and the Judiciary branches of our government. As for the Pentagon, lets privatize it so they can bill their Corporate Clients for they are whom the Pentagon really works for now.

  6. gene  June 11, 2007 at 4:16 pm

    Jenifer (above)…your wondering (last sentence in your comment) how the administrations manages to “poney up the money”……well its called a printing press that probably is turbo-charged and can print billions of (dollar bills) in secs. All you need is plenty of paper and ink and of course, a world full of SUCKERS!!!!

  7. kent shaw  June 11, 2007 at 6:48 pm

    Yes, it is becoming more surreal and bizarre by the moment.

    Example: Now the U.S. has decided to back the Sunnis against a “mutual enemy”, the so called “al qaeda in Iraq”. They are now “fighting alongside each other” in one province. How is this going to work out? You don’t suppose the Shia will be a bit pissed do you? The Sunnis, after all, were dear old Sadddam’s constituency with the Shiites second class citizens bearing the brunt of Saddam’s atrocities. So, yes, let us take sides in the civil war we spawned and back the old dictator’s forces. And, yes, let’s give Shiite Iran even more incentive to “interfere” in our little oil war in Iraq. But then let us not worry about Iran because old Joe wants to bomb them anyway. We can goad Iran into an attack, maybe, so that we can stay on the “moral high road”. What a stroke of foreign policy genius. Bizarre beyond belief.

  8. Doreen  June 11, 2007 at 11:58 pm

    Gene:

    I too ask myself that very question. Each new day brings more fantastical events. I find it hard to believe that this is the USA anymore. How are these corrupt criminals allowed to stay/get into office? Why aren’t people in the millions screaming and protesting??? This country is based on lies, and if anything since Bush was appointed President, I have educated myself on the real/true US history that I never learned in school. Our foreign policy since WWII is reprehensible. (John Perkins, Confessions of an Economic Hitman is a must read.) We have become greedy wasteful consumers who need constant entertaining. We have no independent news to keep the masses critically thinking and for that matter having an educated opinion. Just look at all the sacrifices we have made in this time of war!!! Not a day goes by that I am not saddened by the news from Iraq or the other misdeeds we are responsible for around the world. I was never a pessimist but sadly have become one. I don’t feel that the evil that has taken over will be corrected anytime soon. Look at the disarray we have put forth into the world. Why is the demonic Bush allowed to continue on with his dictatorship??

    Here’s an article I read last month that I think the CHB community will relate to.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17669.htm

  9. peter  June 12, 2007 at 5:38 am

    This senator is a fraud!! does anyone know his real background. he is owned by the phamacutical industry.
    What the hell was Gore thinking way back when.
    To think I voted for this asshole. It makes me really sick!!!

    everytime this moron comes on tv with his obnoxious whinning complaing voice, i shut it off!!!! i dont want to hear this fool and all his bullshit.
    This scumbag never put a day in combat or served our country when needed. a coward by any standard.

  10. Bill Robinson  June 12, 2007 at 8:32 am

    What are y’all gonna do if Obama gets elected and then sends support to Somalia or to any other African Country? Are you all going to call him a “Nigger Lover”? I’m Black and I gave money to the United Negro College Fund. I did it because I think that a mind truly is a thing that shouldn’t be wasted. For proof, look at all you bigots out there villifying Joe the Jerk Lieberman when Bush the Bastard led Cheney the Creep and Rotted Rummy into the war that those two started. Your minds are so wasted that you don’t even know who the real enemy is, and for your edification it is NOT Joe Lieberman.
    Forget for a moment that Lieberman is Jewish. Bush started this war (well, really Cheney and Rumsfeld did and then told Bush how much his cut was so he wouldn’t object) and is keeping it going. Lieberman supports Bush as do enough Senators to keep the war alive and well-funded. Call them names too, for all the good it will do anyone.
    The simple solution is to take all these pro-war Congressmen (Senators & Representatives both) and ship their fat lazy asses to Iraq, give them some weapons, body armour, and put them in with the Surge Troops. Let THEM fight since they want the war so much. Let’s see how long it will take them to say that the war should end when it’s their ass on the front line.
    Stop with the attempts to connect Lieberman to Israel just because he is Jewish. There are a lot of Senators who are more pro war and more pro Israel than Joe the Jerk.
    Bush the Bastard and Cheney the Creep are way ahead of Joe the Jerk.

  11. Even Steven Monton  June 13, 2007 at 2:53 am

    Read this and draw your own conclusions:

    http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11132

  12. Steve Horn  June 11, 2007 at 7:38 am

    Those sunglasses Lieberman bought must be beer goggles … making his typically illogical vision even worse …. who voted for this joker anyhow?

    So, right, Joe, why don’t we nuke the whole Middle East and be done with them? Israel as well. The whole stinkin’ mess. After all, you can probably get the Republican hawks to back you on this one – it’s pretty easy to drill for oil through glass – all that heat + all that sand – what other surface would be better? Maybe those pesky Russians would pull the trigger on their nukes – after the (radioactive) dust settled you and the rest of your “brave” representatives and senators could emerge from the bunkers and survey what you’d done to the world.

    Sure – it’ll be “hot” – but hey – we can get some workers from Mexico to do those jobs that Americans “won’t do” – right? Or maybe if not Mexico then from some other third world country –

    So Joe – I’m all for your plan – why don’t you ride one of the nukes from the bird to the ground like Maj. T.J. ‘King’ Kong (Slim Pickens) did in Dr. Strangelove?

    What an idiot … where do we find these “leaders” anyhow? I mean I’m all for hiring the handicapped – but perhaps the Sentate isn’t the ideal place to give ‘em jobs.

    Peace

    Steve

  13. gene  June 11, 2007 at 8:01 am

    Nice comment Steve (above)!!!!

  14. Carl Nemo  June 11, 2007 at 11:24 am

    Spot-on commentary Steve Horn…! Lieberman needs to take his Lukkud Party seat they have reserved for him in the Knesset. Many folks were disappointed that Gore/Lieberman’s bid for the Presidency failed, but I wasn’t and I surely didn’t vote for Bush/Cheney. People need to focus their attention very closely on the selection for a V.P. candidate in the upcoming election. These tag-along creeps are only a heartbeat away from taking over the reigns of power. We are now saddled with Cheney another behind the scenes scheming mattoid and rest assured Lieberman would have been the same under Gore. Gore played amateur intelligence apparatchik under Clinton too. In the old days the V.P. just chilled and basically got lost unless there was a need to call them forth for service.

    Whenever I hear this “chicken-necked” wobble-head Lieberman speak he makes my skin crawl. For all we know he’s an operative for Mossad too. In these times “Trust no one”…!

    Carl Nemo **==

  15. gene  June 11, 2007 at 7:59 am

    Joe your just stupid like your (butt sucking lover) bushie-boy. Joe states in above article that we need to bomb Iran because they are killing our soldiers. Well Mr.(STUPID) Lieberman if we had not invaded Iraq based on LIES originating from bushco then mabe, just mabe our soldiers would NOT be dieing in this hellhole…..you think Joe you can mentally graspe this. Come on Joe, are you really that stupid?

    Fokes over at (msn.com) their is an article concerning the immigration bill and Bush’s Gonzie boy. Bush states that this is “his” government and Gonzie boy is staying and the immigration bill WILL pass. Sounds like a dictator to me.

  16. Steve Horn  June 11, 2007 at 8:26 am

    He’s visited Iraq -bought himself a pair of sunglasses – right? Odd – I have a friend who’s been there for a year – and who is facing going back over for another year and a half – his view of the situation is a bit different than that of Bush, Lieberman and the rest of the Kinnesset – um – er – Sentate Hawks – his description started with Cluster and ended with uck – you can figure out the missing letter.

    Perhaps if George or Dick or Joe or any of these other hawks had experience “in country” their perspective would be different – but we’ve elected cowards and fools to run our country – shame on us.

    And if you voted for Lieberman – shame on you.

    Peace

    Steve

  17. LurkingFromTheLeft  June 11, 2007 at 8:17 am

    …I’m wondering how he REALLY feels! –

    LFTL

  18. Steve Horn  June 11, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    Decorum prevents me from expressing my feelings about these bozos without some reserve. ;=)

  19. rjf7r  June 11, 2007 at 10:53 am

    There is a certain moral consistency in attacking Iran in order to protect an illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.

  20. gene  June 11, 2007 at 3:57 pm

    “moral consistency”…? Consistency mabe but dam sure not moral. Hmmm..er…oh!!! I know, (moralless) if their is such a word.

  21. Doubtom  June 11, 2007 at 11:02 am

    Along comes the bravest of the armchair military strategist who, never having spent a day in uniform, nevertheless knows all there is to know about tactics and strategy. We are so well served by these flaming cowards, in Lieberman’s case, flaming and whining cowards, that we might well be able to retire an entire brigade based on his sage advice.

    I’m sure Joe checked with AIPAC first to insure that his advice was in line with Israel’s needs and desires.
    I don’t know who this weasel thinks he represents but it damn sure isn’t Americans.
    That this eternal suckup was almost Vice President should give anyone pause, well, anyone except his masters in Israel.
    After he lost his own party’s support and with the bulk of Republicans finding him pathetic and laughable, who in the hell voted for this ass-kisser is still the mystery of the age.
    The thought that Connecticutt is awash in Independents, in sufficient numbers to elect this whining “Israel-firster” is too much of a challenge for the wildest imagination. How did you do it Joe?
    With his unprecedented success at stepping outside of the major parties, we can only hope he doesn’t decide to run for President. (A)-IPAC is proud of you!

  22. LurkingFromTheLeft  June 11, 2007 at 11:07 am

    …John McWackJobCain AND Joe LIE-berman –

    …why did my flesh just crawl when I typed that? –

    LFTL

  23. www.nazilieskill.us  June 11, 2007 at 11:51 am

    Israel, Saudi Arabia and GOP crooks were involved in the 911 stunt.

    John Hanks, Laramie, Wyoming

  24. Boots  June 11, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Didn’t the AIPAC tell Neocon Joe that Israel has first “dibs” on attacking Iran?

  25. kent shaw  June 11, 2007 at 12:48 pm

    Doubtom wrote: “After he lost his own party’s support and with the bulk of Republicans finding him pathetic and laughable, who in the hell voted for this ass-kisser is still the mystery of the age.”

    Actually the republicans campaigned for Lieberman in Ct., abandoning their own candidate chosen in the Ct. republican primary. Had they not done so there is a good chance Ned Lamont (anti-war), who won the democratic primary over Lieberman, would have taken the election.

  26. RSW  June 11, 2007 at 12:50 pm

    Regarding Steve’s comment: “What an idiot … where do we find these “leaders” anyhow?” — I suspect it’s the GREEN glasses that most of us wear.

    As this century progresses, I’m more and more convinced that the quote of the 20th century was uttered by Rodney King. Big stick diplomacy will only dig this country’s hole a little bigger with each remark like this, no matter who utters it. I suspect we’re near the burying point now.

    Until we throw all of these marionettes out, possibly following it up the money chain to those really responsible, nothing will change and the hole will become big enough to bury the remains of what we are. This is not a democracy. Indeed, it is not even the representative republic the founders envisioned. But then they were among the rich and powerful of their time. They just wanted to keep the portion that the other King George was collecting.

    Maybe the appointed/annointed one was right about it being a piece of paper. Maybe it’s time to rewrite it after all. Without the green glasses.

    Oldernwiser

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