Cheney lied about Bush spy program

Vice President Dick Cheney lied about his involvement in developing President George W. Bush's controversial and illegal program to use the National Security Agency to spy on Americans.

New revelations show Cheney was hip deep in developing the policy, often overruling the objections of Justice Department officials and blocking the promotion of one official who disagreed with him on the warrantless wiretapping program.

The same disclosures also show Attorney General Alberto Gonzales lied about his role in trying to get approval of the program from previous Attorney General John Ashcroft.

Writes Dan Eggen of The Washington Post:

Vice President Cheney told Justice Department officials that he disagreed with their objections to a secret surveillance program during a high-level White House meeting in March 2004, a former senior Justice official told senators yesterday.

The meeting came one day before White House officials tried to get approval for the same program from then-Attorney General John D. Ashcroft, who lay recovering from surgery in a hospital, according to former deputy attorney general James B. Comey.

Comey's disclosures, made in response to written questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee, indicate that Cheney and his aides were more closely involved than previously known in a fierce internal battle over the legality of the warrantless surveillance program. The program allowed the National Security Agency to monitor phone calls and e-mails between the United States and overseas.

Comey said that Cheney's office later blocked the promotion of a senior Justice Department lawyer, Patrick Philbin, because of his role in raising concerns about the surveillance.

The disclosures also provide further details about the role played by then-White House counsel Alberto R. Gonzales. He visited Ashcroft in his hospital room and wrote an internal memorandum on the surveillance program shortly afterward, according to Comey's responses. Gonzales is now the attorney general. He faces possible congressional votes of no-confidence because of his handling of the firings of nine U.S. attorneys last year.


  1. Once elected the most distant representatives from “we the people” are the President and the V.P. I’ve said many times to folks that the most important issues on the ballot are their local issues; i.e., school bond levies, fire dept. levies, tax related issues of any kind then next their local reps. Their next interest “should” be in their state legislators both their district reps and state senators, then the governorship, then onto your Federal reps; i.e.,, Congressmen and two federal State Senators.

    The real traitors who have gotten this nation in a fix is our federal district Congressional reps and next our two federal Senators. The trouble being that people don’t pay close enough attention to what these elected disappointments do once they get to D.C. I say and I’ll say again you have to watch them like a hawk scanning for a field mouse 24/7/365. If they get to D.C. and you witness them hammering out their own agenda or climbing onboard the NWO globalists ‘r us bandwagon, then you “must” dump them after their first term regardless of whatever feelgood pork they’ve pitched back to Mayberry USA. Those that have been there up til now who have a track record of the aforementioned agendas need to be dumped too asap.

    Without toadies in the House and Senate, Bush and Cheney would go nowhere. They wouldn’t even be able to spend a buck. We now see what having both houses and the presidency controlled by the same party can do to this nation. At least it was so until last November. The Dems have a better showing now, but there’s so many “Blue-Dog” Dems; i.e., republican toadies that the Republicans might as well still have control of both houses. There’s also fence-sitting “Yellow-Dog” Dems that are an embarrassment to their party principals too, which either shows in their voting record or their lack of ethics. At this point in time “we the people” are un-represented in D.C and these elected disappointments are on a “roll”.

    People need to quit whining about their leaders and get involved in their government. Each of us has a stake in this country and if you don’t think freedom for you and your family is worth that involvement, then you deserve to lose it as is now happening. I’ll post the duty links so folks can locate their elected reps email addresses, phone numbers etc. Use 10-10-987 @ 3 cents per minute to call their offices. Do so regularly and express your “needs”. Don’t beg and grovel. Call with with a purpose and make some demands of them. Don’t swear, curse or act stupid; it’s pointless, ineffective behavior. Their office personnel are polite, they’l log your sentiments and pass it on to your reps. Emails are ok, but they don’t have the impact if hundreds of thousands of people have made the effort to call their offices regularly. Sign up for their newsletters and again watch them closely. has a Vote Monitor service for which you you can sign-up. It will notify you via email on a regular basis how your Congressional District rep and your Senators voted on issues along with a list of upcoming legislation. You’ll find it interesting to see how many times they vote against our national interests, or abstain from voting completely?!
    Freedom is not free!

    “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance…Thomas Jefferson

    Carl Nemo **==

  2. Yep – they lied – and nothing will be done about it. They’ve been doing the same thing for years and there have been no consequences, why should anything change now? Oh – you expect the Democrats in Congress to take action? Don’t hold your breath – the day that pack of cry babies takes any real action will be a cold day in hell.

    Now – let’s all wait for the hot, foul wind of pseudo-rage to blow out of the halls of congress -don’t worry though – unlike a real windstorm this one has no power behind it.



  3. Every logical-minded voter has the right idea; now the real work comes when getting our elected officials to do what we hired them to do. Folks, our elected officials lack the cajones to do the right thing so they need to get impeached, too. I mean every single one of them in both the house and the senate. Voters have been getting hosed right and left since the 2000 elections because U.S. politics has gone the way of the Boss Tweed modus operandi; anyone famililar with Tweed will understand what I’m alluding to.

    It’s disgusting.

  4. None of those in government…..will hold themselves accountable.

    The people will have to do that, and see that it is done through pressure on their state elected officials.

    Carl Nemo is correct.

    If you have read his posts, and seen the links he provides to your reps, but haven’t taken full advantage of him saving you the effort of having to look up the info yourselves GO TO HIS POST NOW, and click the link.

    First, write your elected reps.

    Then, cut and paste the link in your email browser and forward it to EVERYONE in your email address book, so they, if living in the same disctrict as you (or not), can email their reps.

    We have to unite, focus, and take the ACTION necessary to have our voices heard by those who “supposedly” represent us.

    They have failed us miserably, but we have failed ourselves.

    I’ll say it again, WE HAVE FAILED OURSELVES.

    What good it is to post here, and not where it matters?

    Do you think members of the United States Congress come here to read comments?

    Na, they have to meet with lobbyists! You have to call their offices!

    How many times have we vented on websites, and forsaken the REAL ACTION it would take to call or email our elected reps?

    You have to take the correct action to get the desired result.

    Have we called or emailed our reps and made our voice heard?

    The answer 9-10 times (maybe 10-10 times) is no!

    Some have….all should.

    It’s time to speak to our elected reps, and ecourage others to do so as well.

    Thanks for the links Carl Nemo!

  5. “Taking One Day at a Time”…..amen, thats about all we have left. Of course I have to add to that my ativan and a GOOD stiff drink!!

  6. To truely know this nation is in very serious trouble, all you have to do is take ONE look at this bastard. He makes his moron boss look like an angel sent from God himself. Of course Bush actually believes something close to that,ie. he talks to God or is it God taking to him.

    I have read several books refering to the “end times” and now knowing clearly (almost) just how corrupt this government of ours has become over the years it seems (to me at least) the stage is set. All we need now is for a particular “world leader” to expose himself.

  7. … called “The Dead Kennedys” ?

    I’ve thought of a great name for a band in the same vein.

    How about “Die Cheney Die” ?

  8. Cheney lied? Oh no, say it ain’t so. I’ve always thought he was so upright, honest, and straightforward. A real Boy Scout that one is.

  9. Nobody can really be surprised, wonder or even ask questions about cheney lying. Bush and cheney have lied more then 100 Husbands who cheat on their wives.
    They have made it no secret, they know nothing will happen, no repercussions, no Grand Jury hearing and no excuses or apologies forth coming.
    They both have lied over a multitude of times, not one politician has voiced their disproval, called for any ethics review or wanted an investigation into any ramifications caused by the lie. It is done with impunity with no thought of anything being done about it.

    Taking One Day at a Time

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