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Hillary plays the God card

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June 5, 2007

In a rare public discussion of her husband's infidelity, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday that she probably could not have gotten through her marital troubles without relying on her faith in God.

Clinton stood by her actions in the aftermath of former President Clinton's admission that he had an affair, including presumably her decision to stay in the marriage.

"I am very grateful that I had a grounding in faith that gave me the courage and the strength to do what I thought was right, regardless of what the world thought," Clinton said during a forum where the three leading Democratic presidential candidates talked about faith and values.

"I'm not sure I would have gotten through it without my faith," she said in response to a question about how she dealt with the infidelity.

The forum, sponsored by the liberal Sojourners/Call to Renewal evangelical organization, provided an uncommon glimpse into the most personal beliefs of Clinton and rivals John Edwards and Barack Obama. The three candidates were invited by Sojourners founder Jim Wallis; most of the other Democratic candidates appeared on CNN later Monday to discuss their faith.

The most intimate question came about the Clintons' relationship, one of the world's most debated marriages but one that the husband and wife rarely speak openly about.

Clinton said she's "been tested in ways that are both publicly known and those that are not so well known or not known at all." She said it's those times when her personal faith and the prayers of others sustain her.

"At those moments in time when you are tested, it is absolutely essential that you be grounded in your faith," she said.

Edwards revealed that he prays — and sins — every day. The crowd gasped loudly when moderator Soledad O'Brien asked Edwards to name the biggest sin he ever committed, and he won their applause when he said he would have a hard time naming one thing.

"I sin every single day," said Edwards, the 2004 vice presidential nominee. "We are all sinners and we all fall short."

Edwards, wearing a purple tie to match Sojourners' signature color, promoted himself as the candidate most committed to the group's mission of fighting poverty. He said he doesn't feel his belief in evolution is inconsistent with his belief in Christ and he doesn't personally feel gays should be married, although as president he wouldn't impose his belief system on the rest of the country.

"I have a deep and abiding love for my Lord, Jesus Christ," Edwards said, but he said the United States shouldn't be called a Christian nation.

He said he has been going to church since he was a child and was baptized as a teen. He said he strayed from his faith as an adult and it came "roaring back" when his teenage son died in 1996.

"It was the Lord that got me through that," Edwards said, along with both of his wife's cancer diagnoses.

Clinton acknowledged that talking about her religious beliefs doesn't come naturally to her.

"I take my faith very seriously and very personally," she said. "And I come from a tradition that is perhaps a little too suspicious of people who wear their faith on their sleeves."

Each candidate was given 15 minutes to appear before the packed auditorium at George Washington University's Lisner Auditorium and a live audience on CNN. They were questioned by O'Brien and by church leaders across the country.

Obama's appearance focused more on policy than the personal. Asked whether he agreed with President Bush's portrayal of the current global struggles in terms of good verses evil, Obama said there is a risk in viewing the world in such terms.

He said he believes that the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, were the result of evil. But he said that the United States' treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay is unjust.

"The danger of using good verses evil in the context of war is that it may lead us to be not as critical as we should about our own actions," Obama said to applause.

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8 Responses to Hillary plays the God card

  1. bryan mcclellan

    June 5, 2007 at 9:21 am

    I don’t care if they worship Harry the duck billed platypus, what I want to know is are they going to uphold the oath of office they have taken. Personal faith is just that, personal, do your damn job honestly and the rest will take care of itself.. Smiling at the camera and telling me of your devoutness is a waste of my time.Are these fools going to say what they think we want to hear? I’d bet my next breath on it. Jim and Tammy ,Swaggert,Falwell,Robertson,Dobson ring any bells?

  2. yarply

    June 5, 2007 at 8:52 pm

    Oaths mean nothing to people who do not have to account for their actions. Will they keep their oaths?,,, just look at their past actions. Each and everyone has already had to take an oath to protect and uphold the constitution of this country. It is obvious,, each are liars.
    They will say and do anything to get elected.
    Edwards says he believes in The Lord Christ Jesus, But obviously it is a different one than is in the bible for it is plain that Jesus states his Father created all things and that he and his father are one, yet Edwards states he personally believes in evolution. Hillary says she believes in God. What God? Evidently not the God of the bible. For she is a deceiver and we know who the father of deception is.
    You say you do not care what or who someone worships? Well you should care. I would and will vote for someone who believes they will have to account for their actions, that believe they will be judged by a Holy and rightoues God for the actions they take. (Or I will not vote at all.) I didn’t vote for bush….. or gore….
    Truthfully,, If you believed you would have to stand before a God which is Holy and rightoues and that HATES liars, thieves, murderers, and judges such individuals as unsaved unrepentent sinners worthy of damnation would you be an honest public servant, a person who looks at their own failures and tries to do what is right?
    We all are worthy of damnation, but their are some who will not receive it because they are genuinely sorry for their actions and do not want to be as they are, and have turned towards God through his Word, His Son, Christ Jesus and asked to be forgiven and decided to live according to Gods will which is plainly stated in the bible and the 10 commandments. Yes you may slip and fail, but the point is that you try to do what is right, (IN GODS EYES not your own) DO,WHAT,IS,RIGHT,, and, and,,, The Biggest thing,,, Trust in he who can save you, The Creator, The Word, The keeper of your soul,, The Lord God, through his son Jesus Christ, who died for our sins and was raised from the dead (for death could not hold him) as a witness to life everlasting for thoughs who believe and are called,,, The Sons, and Daughters, of The Living God,, BUT damnation for the deceivers, liars, and murderers of this world.(unrepentant)

    Will they keep their oaths??? Just ask yourself,,, Whose their daddy.

  3. Beelza B ubb

    June 5, 2007 at 9:20 am

    Beelza Bubb

    Beelza Bubb

    Hilary Clinton now claims she is a woman of faith. I ask does she also have a conscience?
    The Genocide in Rwanda happened during her husband Bill Clinton’s presidency, I ask what did Hilary do about it? Did she pressure Bill out of conscience to do something to stop the Genocide in Rwanda?
    As I recall he did nothing about it. His dalliance with Monica is a trivial shortcoming in comparison to his not doing anything to stop that Genocide from happening. I ask, What can Hilary tell us now about what she did during that time?
    These are real questions about her past.
    Beelza Bubb

  4. Steve Horn

    June 5, 2007 at 11:30 am

    These candidates have consultants who advise them on how to discuss their “faith” with the public. Seems a bit less than genuine to me, to need to be advised as to how to discuss your faith.

    I recall when Jimmy Carter discussed his faith he was a laughing stock – that he had “sinned in his mind” cost him a load of political brownie points. But Carter was (and I assume still is) a true man of faith – of personal faith.

    As for the sudden flood of Christian Soldiers marching off to the mortal combat of a presidential race, might I remind them of Matthew chapter 6 verses 5:8 (this is straight from the Bible that they old so dear, I find it interesting that they’re in direct defiance of the teachings of Christ – but perhaps they didn’t study this part ….)

    5″And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

  5. Doubtom

    June 6, 2007 at 12:28 am

    Let them display their religious credentials; I find it useful in culling the herd!

    Speaking only for myself, I want my presidential hopeful firmly grounded in reality and not reposing faith of any kind in a mysterious sky-king.
    The world has had more than enough of religious zealots of all stripes.
    No matter what the claims of organized religion, it is the single most divisive force ever to visit mankind and I distrust anyone who relies on it to whatever extent.

  6. Bill Jonke

    June 5, 2007 at 12:06 pm

    Hillary may have blown it.

    Her “admission” has taken her a few notches down on my list. She’s bringing herself down to Mitty’s level, and she may have fallen and can’t get up.

    Bill Jonke

  7. Even Steven Monton

    June 5, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    And say anything to get elected.

    A lying fraud like the rest of these lip-service, corporate owned, self absorbed, so-called representatives, who speak the words voters want to hear.
    These “representatives” shake the voters hand with a smile, and then go serve AIPAC’s (or any of the other of the numerous lobbies) interests.

    Money talks and bull**** walks right?

    Obama, and Clinton BOTH have gone before AIPAC.

    BIG money is being pased around….while Americans sit on their duffs and watch sports, or reality TV.
    BIG MONEY is influencing crucial decision making daily, not the “voter.”

    Be honest for a second and consider this question, “who has the louder voice….the average American, or a lobbyist’s blank check that will clear easily?”

    Who do you think they will listen to come time to make choices concerning American policy? The corporate donator, or one of the many politically ignorants of the country, who can recite their favorite sports figures stats for the past decade from memory, but do not care enough to know their state representatives and what they believe?

    Who will they hear, the voter they see for a few seconds while giving a handshake, or a corporate lobbyist with a check and a blank space where the donation amount will be written?

    Lastly, loyalty to COUNTRY should trump belief in God when it comes to matters of country.

    This may be shocking to some of you, but let me explain my position before you start to condemn.

    I do not want any individual taking their orders from who or what they interpret to be” God” when concerning millions of lives here in the USA. Sorry, but I’m not really sorry.

    Why? Because, country is here and now, and the Presidents “God” may not be your “God,” get it?

    I want the elected officials to put the USA’s interests, both domestic and foreign (sorry AIPAC/Israel) above ALL ELSE.

    What’s best for the citizens of this nation, and the direction to be taken should come from the Constitution of the United States of America, not a religious book of choice, or a lobbyist’s check..

    Nothing less should be acceptable to the American people, yet it is, and thus explains our current state of candidates using God to get elected.

  8. adamrussell

    June 5, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    We have not yet banned religion in this country and Hillary has as much right to have religious beliefs and as much right to discuss them as anyone else.

    I will also note that she professes to gain support from god which is quite different from the religious right which tries to force their beliefs on others.