Today’s Democrats – no different than the corrupt GOP

Seven Heroes vs. many more culprits. So much for any hope that the Democrat Party will be an improvement over the Republic Party. It was a faint hope to start with; but even faint hopes in our political quagmire are a waste of time.

First, the Heroes: Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman, Chris Murphy, Zack Space, Baron Hill, Paul Hodes, and Betty Sutton. They pushed forward to pass some ethics rules that would (SLIGHTLY) change the illegal and immoral behavior that permeates the House of Representatives. One aspect would limit how soon a congresscritter could stop pretending that he/she represents the people, and take their money directly as a lobbyist. Another would demand that lobbyists report each and every donation, and ban the "group" bribes they currently use to avoid disclosure.

I take my hat off to this group. Pity it is so small.

As weak and watered down as these proposed ethics rules were, too many DEMOCRATS in office think that they are too strong. Steny "Where's Mine" Hoyer leads his merry little band of greedy, money-grubbing, lobby-ist loving, paid political warriors for K-Street.

One of the arguments these scum-buckets have raised is that it is unfair to increase the time from congress to K-Street from one year to two. Another is that the "people" would not appreciate their ethics reform efforts, so why bother?

WHY BOTHER? WHY, INDEED?

One thing is painfully clear. We have replaced one set of corrupt, greedy, small-minded criminal pols with another. Same behavior, different label. If ever there was a time for a new political party, a clean, ethical, unbribable, moral and constitutional protecting party, now is the time. It may be too late.

15 Responses to "Today’s Democrats – no different than the corrupt GOP"

  1. Joe Sedlak  May 18, 2007 at 4:38 pm

    Joe Sedlak

    Mr Kezelis raises some good points – and some good questions.

    Since the major corporations finance and dictate to both political parties and indirectly establish policy and oversight (or lack thereof), of course both parties are corrupt. It’s the system and it quickly devours anyone who comes to congress. It will take massive public pressure to change it – and who will lead?

    Instead we have to concentrate on the matter of degree of corruption. How much corruption can we lessen and how much will be tolerate?

    Can anyone imagine that all of the investigations and efforts to restore checks and balances going on now would occur under Republican control? Would there be the resignations and/or indictments of key officials that have already started and the corruption evidence piling up over great obstacles? Hardly!
    Would impeachment proceedings even be seriously considred by a Republic congress? Yes, it will have to come to that!

    Thanks goodness for at least a couple of leaders on the Democratic side of the aisle. And there are a couple of good Republicans in Congress who would work to straighten out the mess created by the White House gang.

    But none of the candidates for the republican nomination! What a bunch of wimps who will only continue what the Bushies started if one of them would win – but that seems very unlikely now that the America public is finally waking up! However, I can’t rule out that we could be fooled again!

  2. EdEKit  May 21, 2007 at 12:05 am

    Rob,
    I agree with you as much as it is possible to agree with anyone. I have found the PDA, or they have found me, and I really believe they are the best hope for a revival of at least a modicum of honesty in government. I strongly urge you and all others, to examine their positions, endorsements and to get involved with them. The PDA is a growing faction within the Democratic Party. They are not in lockstep with either the DLC or the DNC though they do not automatically reject either. PDA Candidates were elected in the 2006 midterms in large numbers, most, but not all of them are at the bottom of the seniority lists, but they are exercising as much influence as possible. More support for the PDA will only improve the situation further.

    Home on the range, or in the oven. It does not get too hot for me. I grew up in Southern Arizona.

  3. littleguypainting  May 19, 2007 at 8:46 am

    I disagree with the author of the article. I think that the previous republican controlled congress was clearly more corrupt than anything we’ve seen from the current congress, at least so far.

    I am disapointed in the ability of the congress to perform and deliver, but I believe that they have been attempting to act in good faith and implement the mandate given them by the voters. It seems that they are blocked and intimidated at every juncture. It’s time for them to grow some thick skin and take a real stand.

  4. Paolo  May 19, 2007 at 2:45 pm

    Republicans and Democrats both inevitably fall to corruption. It’s built into the system. Let me illustrate from a libertarian’s perspective.

    Our masters in Washington believe they have the authority to intervene in virtually all aspects of life, economic, political, or social.

    Our masters in Washington need money–lots of it–in order to get re-elected. How do they raise that money? By doling out “favors” to special interest groups in exchange for political contributions. Oh, they make sure, usually, that they dot their i’s and cross their t’s to give the appearance that everything is above-board. But get real: we all know that politicians use their pull to get legislative favors passed for special interest groups, whether those groups are farmers, industrialists, hi-tech companies–you name it.

    The system is exactly analagous to Don Corleone handing out “favors” on his daughter’s wedding day, to loyal followers who may someday be called upon to return a “favor.” The mafia is much like the US government, though the mafia is far less dangerous and destructive.

    So we have the Republican “Corleone” family running candidates against the Democrat “Barzini” family. Of course they are both corrupt; they could not be otherwise, given the system we have, in which the government has the power to grant almost any wish a lobbyist can dream up.

    The solution is not to make more rules against lobbyists. The solution is to restrict the ability of the government to hand out these favors. A good place to start would be to declare unconstitutional any law not authorized in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.

    But we’re not going to vote ourselves into freedom, folks. It’s going to take a revolution.

  5. Carl Nemo  May 20, 2007 at 11:41 am

    The term “republicrat” has been around for a while. Unfortunately it’s a fact. When your locally elected pols hits D.C. they climb onboard the corportist/globalist band-wagon and forget about their hometown constituents other than to keep them well fed with “pulled pork” sandwiches courtesy of the U.S. Treasury “deli”. There’s more to the maintenance of our freedom and way of life than simply participating in the voting cycle. You have to keep a close eye on your elected officials while in D.C. If you discover they are hammering out their own agenda or supporting a corporatist/globalist one at the expense of America, our job markets and our freedoms then they do not need a second term in D.C. This is the ultimate term limitation mechanism that’s transcendental to any laws being passed.

    The key is watch them closely and if they show themselves to be askew relative to your personal needs and the community simply get rid of them at the next election cycle! I’ll provide a link titled Congress.org that will allow folks to sign up for an email service that gives you updates concerning your elected officials’ voting performance in the House and the Senate. You will not get any SPAM associated with this service, just simply their current vote, along with upcoming legislation so you can possibly contact their offices and let them know what you think on the issues prior to their vote. If everyone became fiercely participative in their government’s processes, things would be a lot better than they are at this point in time.
    Freedom is not free! “The price of freedom is eternal vigilance”…Thomas Jefferson

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicrat
    http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
    http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm

  6. murph  May 20, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    Paolo,

    I happen to agree with you 100%. The system is flawed. If it wasn’t, we wouldn’t be where we are nationally.

    Debates about what is the best form of governance have been going on for 5000 years. One of the more interesting is benevolent emperors. They don’t last very long unfortunately.

    One of the problems with governance is the promotion of the elite to power. They always have a different agenda from the rest of the populace. There is always the problem with a form of governance that relies on majority voting. It always results in a minority being run over by policy. The majority is always easy to manipulate by elites, using promises that can never be delivered.

    Historically, as societies become more complex and increased in size, the governance becomes, always, more corrupted. Hmmm, gives one thoughts about the value of small tribal societies.

  7. Ardie  May 16, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    A two-party system can be manipulated since under an Hegelian analysis it forms the thesis and antithesis. Both sides are part of a negative unity (the synthesis). Who finds this negative unity is the real winner. (Clinton, I must say, came very close.)

    Our two-parry Republican-Democrat (= one Hegelian party, no one else welcome or allowed) system is a reflection of this Hegelianism. A small group – a very small group – by using Hegel, can manipulate, and to some extent, control society for its own purposes. — Antony C. Sutton, America’s Secret Establishment

    Although I would have to correct the scholar about Hegel who said the following,

    “The state is something purely mechanical – and there is no spiritual idea of a machine. Only what is an object of freedom may be called ‘idea’. Therefore we must transcend the state! For every state must treat free men as cogs in a machine. And this is precisely what should not happen; hence the state must perish.” — G.W.F Hegel

    nevertheless, who knowns the nuts and bolts of this dark synthesis which exists in Congress and carried us through the Cold War, is the real Dark Lord of the heap. Perhaps this negative unity is a lust for absolute power. But whatever it is, we have to dig deeper to find it. When we do find it, like in the movie “Return of the King”, the ring will have been tossed back into Mount Doom from whence it came.

  8. Sandy Price  May 16, 2007 at 5:00 pm

    I think we Americans must understand that we cannot legislate morals. Even if we changed the laws on lobbying, or any paying for favors, it would continue just under the table in some way. We have no FBI or CIA that isn’t under the jurisdiction of the White House and we see the movement to make all Supreme Court justices to ban abortions. This happens when the people look to the government for protection from either party or everything else that has failed in their lives.

    The problem as I see it, is that the platforms for both parties have changed. The GOP ran through every possible decent action and changed it to reflect what they thought Jesus would do. The GOP (neoconservatives) thought Jesus would want America to be a One World Order if it was classified as a Christian Empire. Many Republican thought that was great and brought Bush into the white house.

    After 9/11 both parties handed Bush the keys to everything including the Constitution and suddenly found him breaking all the rules. If the Democrats were taken aback they kept quiet. Most Americans saw the bad actions coming from the White House and did nothing. Both parties became eunuchs and watched as our boys were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq. 2004 found Bush back in power and the Democrats looked like utter fools. The Republicans looked evil, wicked and bad.

    Very few Americans actually saw the truth in the Bush White House and managed to put more Democrats into the House and Senate but not nearly enough to show the dissatisfaction the voters felt.

    Victor Gold said it best when describing his long involvement in the GOP. How he tried, hoped and prayed that the Republicans would win in 2000 and in 6 years hoped and prayed they would lose. It is shock to know that so many Republicans had worked against Bush in 2006 but they didn’t work hard enough to beat Bush’s vetoes.

    Working against Bush’s programs won’t win for the Democrats in 2008. they are going to have to dig up the voting records, the pay-offs for all the Republicans running in 2008. I want to see every campaign ad and discloser statement from every Republican running in 2008!

    We have a massive Immigration problem and it could work against the Republicans if anyone voting for Bush’s Amnesty this week plans to run again in 2008. The North American Union can be defeated by the Democrats if they try. Every Democrat should be asking their constuents how they feel about pulling the plug on money in September unless the war is over and the men are on their way home. Why aren’t they doing this? Do I have to get involved with the DNC and show them what an old Republican would do in this case?

    What the hell does the DNC want in 2008? They should run candidates who want individual freedoms and voting rights for everyone who is not felon. I know a million republicans who are fed up with this religious crap coming from the religious right. Everytime I see Romney wringing his hands and saying he can’t wait to get his hands on our government, I get sick to my stomach. Who does this idiot think he is? He is just another 2-bit Christian hack.

    The Democrats have an important mission in 2008 and it is to free the American people from the fear of take over by those men who worship Pat Robertson. They offer nothing but negatives. The people I know don’t want welfare just guaranteed freedoms. If the girls get raped they should have medical attention and the morning after pill offered without question.

    I’m too old to worry about legal abortions or the morning after pill but I am concerned over the number of abortions done in America. Look to the education of these kids and get the hell away from the federal laws. That is exactly what Jesus would do. It isn’t the passing of these social laws, it is the enforcement that will build a police state.

    The Democrats have all the cards in their corner; why aren’t they playing with them? Will they let the Republicans crap all over them in 2008?

  9. wiseoldgranny  May 17, 2007 at 10:27 pm

    How about some sources or links to these allegations? Just because you write it, doesn’t make it so.

    There is only thing worse than a mainstream reporter being a mouthpiece for the fascist occupiers of the WH, and that is, a ‘so-called’ independent reporter of ‘facts’, that just throws out shit, no facts, to stir up more shit and seem more ‘informed’ than he could ever be.

    I expected more from this site. Too bad, so sad.

  10. mary cali  May 18, 2007 at 7:43 am

    Mary

    Some of the posters display overly simplistic thinking when they write that all polticians are bad and that they only care about themselves not the people etc. Nothing is that simple. I believe there are Ds and Rs who strive to do what they believe is right for the general welfare, whether I agree with them or not.

    Sure there are some who have their hand out waiting for a corrupting offer and $$ has way too much influence on the entire process. Yes, politicians have to acquiesce to their constituents in order to be reelected taking positions with which I may disagree. However, a blanket indictment of all politicians is overly cynical and simplistic.

    The less than optimal political system we have is also a result of citizen apathy. Quoting Pogo, “We have met the enemy and it is us.” When a society cares more about who is elected on American Idol than to Congress, they get the government they have earned. Actually, I think our government is somehow better than what our mostly apathetic and civically unaware population has earned.

  11. Donnat  May 17, 2007 at 12:35 pm

    They think there are still too many conservative voters that can sway elections. That’s why they rolled over and gave Bush what he wanted on Iraq and every other disastrous plan he wanted.

    If they ever got away from the lobbyists and their sycophants they’d realize how angry people are about the occupation of Iraq, the loss of jobs offshore, our lack of a forward thinking energy program, their corrupt brethren.

    All this posturing on abortion and immigration is just a diversion to make people realize neither side is addressing the real problems we are confronting. Donnat

  12. Electric Bill  May 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Kezelis’ comments are silly and sound like they came from a spoiled child. He reminds me of “movement hippies” during the Vietnam War, who could not fathom that things don’t happen just because they want them to happen. The Democrats have a razor thin majority in the Senate and only a slightly better situation in the House. Many of the new Democrats came from conservative districts who may have enough of the Republicans but aren’t ready to vote for a liberal. Whatever good legislation comes out of the House gets torpedoed in the Senate by arcane Senate rules designed to permit just what he wants to see, immediate action. I’d like to see action too, but the only way to get it is to insure a veto proof majority in both houses and we certainly won’t get that by whining and bitching and pulling the Democrats apart. After seeing the Republicans in total control of the government for six years, if Kezelis can’t see the difference between the two parties, then he is truly blind.

  13. mary cali  May 17, 2007 at 5:53 pm

    Mary

    Sounds like the same dumb rhetoric that Ralph Nadar used in 2000 when he said there was no difference between Bush and Gore. The Nadar votes in Florida alone led to the election of George W. Bush. Is there anyone who thinks that Gore’s policies would in anyway resemble those of Bush?

    Certainly those in power Rs or Ds are subject to the same temptations of corruption and need to be monitored. However, as the previous post says, to not see the difference between the two parties and their policies says more about the observation skills of Kezelis than about the two parties.

  14. samurai  May 18, 2007 at 12:45 am

    It’s just another stealthy smear tactic from a Bush apologist. Show us the proof, sir! Enough with your cut and run talk. It’s what you get from a little boy who gets caught with his hands in the cookie jar then brazenly attempts to spread blame to others…”See mommy, they’re just as bad. Naaah.”
    Well, sonny, it’s too early to know yet whether the Democrats will morph into the pedophilic, lying, thieving, torturing, soldier-killing, Constitution-crushing excuses for what passes as the conservative Republicans these days. Goldwater must be puking in his grave.
    The game is just starting for these Democrats. It’s been a traumatic experience under this brand of Republican conservatism. The next national election cycle should give them more backbone to give these GOP guppies the boot! We’ll see what our Country looks like after two terms with Obama. It couldn’t be any worse than Bush.

  15. Razor  May 18, 2007 at 2:30 am

    Same old game, different set. It even started way early this cycle. The players toss thier hats into the ring and it starts. The money starts flowing in and in record amounts, millions and more millions, like whoever gets the most wins the election. The true savers of this dying republic get shoved aside, censored, ignored, flamed, and it gets down to the few choices, none who are worth a shit. All liars, crooks, self centered whores for corporate gains and then the sheeple go to the polls thinking that thier vote is gonna count and that they are voting for the best man or woman to fix things.

    Ha Ha Ha, fergit it. Not one of the snakes that make the finals gives a dam about american taxpayers, freedoms, rights, heritage, or most of all, keeping America America. None care and that is a fact. The one chance this country has is being ignored and censored openly. Ron Paul told america what he would do. How he would do it, and by following the constitutional rules. Polls showed overwhelming response that americans liked what he had to offer but, msm refused to report the truth. Obvious news censorship.

    Everyone raves about needing change, but youall think it will be with one of these clown candidates who lie to you, and you believe them.

    The only change will be the clowns makeup. Real change can only come from the one so opposed to the crap government you bitch about. Ron Paul.

    People just can’t see the manipulation that goes on every election. Same old rhetoric, same old promises ( lies ). And all the while, this country loses a little more of itself. Its called sheeple syndrom. The election process is total smoke and mirrors so controlled by the media mostly, and people fall for it everytime.

    It is just another crop of phonies who only care of themselves and thier sponsors, not the nation, not the people, not our heritage, just the money. And the sheeple will get the government they deserve. What a joke.

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