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Dems claim they have votes for Iraq withdrawal

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April 25, 2007

Senator Harry Reid and Vice President Dick Cheney (AP Photo)House Democratic leaders predict they will have enough votes to pass legislation requiring U.S. troops to begin leaving Iraq by Oct. 1 and send it on to President Bush for his promised veto.

Several House members said they would go along with the bill negotiated with the Senate in a bid for party unity despite their desire for an earlier, binding withdrawal date.

The House vote scheduled Wednesday would come as the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, and other defense officials try to convince lawmakers that a timetable would push Iraq into chaos. Bush’s promise guarantees a showdown with Democrats emboldened by last year’s election, which handed them control of Congress.

"For the first time, the president will have to be accountable for this war in Iraq," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Tuesday. "And he does not want to face that reality."

The $124.2 billion bill would fund, among other things, the war in Iraq but trigger the withdrawal of troops beginning this fall. It sets a nonbinding goal of completing the pullout by April 1, 2008.

Troops could remain in Iraq after the 2008 date but only for limited non-combat missions, including counterterrorism operations and training Iraqi forces.

The bill, already negotiated with Senate leaders, is expected to reach the president’s desk as early as next week following a final Senate vote Thursday.

Democrats view the November elections that allowed them to take control of the House and the Senate as a referendum on Bush’s conduct of the war. Bush, however, says he stands firm on his latest strategy for winning the war and dismisses as counterproductive the Democratic call for withdrawal.

"That means our commanders in the middle of a combat zone would have to take fighting directions from legislators 6,000 miles away on Capitol Hill," Bush told reporters Tuesday. "The result would be a marked advantage for our enemies and a greater danger for our troops."

Whether Democratic leaders had enough votes to pass the bill in the House has been in question. The original House bill included a binding timeline, demanding combat ends by September 2008. Several of the 218 members who approved the bill said they reluctantly agreed to back the binding timeline even though they wanted troops home sooner.

Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., chairman of the Democratic caucus, said, "We feel very good about where the caucus is."

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said Democrats will send Bush the bill with the hope that the president has a change of heart. But, Hoyer added, they don’t expect it.

"We are very, very hopeful that the president will sign that bill, will change his mind and come to the recognition that this bill does in fact set off a new policy for our engagement in Iraq," Hoyer said.

Democrats, with their slim margins in the House and Senate, are unlikely to override Bush’s veto.

The White House and Democrats traded insults Tuesday. Vice President Dick Cheney accused Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of pursuing a defeatist strategy in Iraq to win votes at home.

"Some Democratic leaders seem to believe that blind opposition to the new strategy in Iraq is good politics," Cheney told reporters at the Capitol after attending the weekly Republican policy lunch. "Senator Reid himself has said that the war in Iraq will bring his party more seats in the next election."

"It is cynical to declare that the war is lost because you believe it gives you political advantage," Cheney said.

Reid, D-Nev., dismissed Cheney’s comments. "I’m not going to get into a name-calling match with the administration’s chief attack dog," he told reporters.

 

–ANNE FLAHERTY
Copyright © 2007 The Associated Press

12 Responses to Dems claim they have votes for Iraq withdrawal

  1. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    I only posted once. What happened?
    Cashel Boylo

  2. Janten

    April 25, 2007 at 3:14 pm

    “That means our commanders in the middle of a combat zone would have to take fighting directions from legislators 6,000 miles away on Capitol Hill,” Bush told reporters Tuesday. “The result would be a marked advantage for our enemies and a greater danger for our troops.”

    Our commanders in the middle of this mess have already been taking directions from our Commander-in-Chiefone lone man in an Oval Room 6000 miles away – who only listens to those who think as he does or, perhaps, tell him to ‘think’ as he does. And, according to his thinking, we’re supposed to believe him that this is a better situation than for us to trust more in the collective wisdom of a majority of our elected representatives in the House and Senate, and the collective wisdom of we the voters who elected them to represent the wishes of a majority of us. I don’t think so!

  3. SEAL

    April 26, 2007 at 1:40 am

    The answer to your question is obvious. If he doesn’t sign the bill there is no money for his war. It would have to end very soon. The democrats could tell him they have another bill to provide funds to support the troops on their trip home.

    The question is, what would Bush do? We know he would fly off into a rage. No one can predict what his rage would produce. That is the scary part. Do you want to risk it?

  4. Wayne K Dolik

    April 25, 2007 at 12:41 pm

    I have thought about this situation for the last few weeks and would appreciate the reader’s views on this idea. If Bush vetoes the war budget and the Congress didn’t fund the war what would eventually happen? If the Congress told Bush oh well, we tried and you vetoed it. Bush would have to fund his own war? In other words Congress could de-fund the war by doing nothing.

  5. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    To the tune of The Streets of Laredo

    My Surge In Baghdad

    The direction of the fighting’s beginning to shift
    The good news is giving me quite a lift
    There are still horrific attacks in Iraq
    But shoot, we’re winnin’, we’re hittin’ ‘em back

    Incremental gains day by day in Baghdad
    The news on my surge, it sure ain’t all bad
    The high casualty rates will likely continue
    Our expectations are coming out true

    Winning block by block we are in Baghdad
    Sure the rest of Iraq is looking quite sad
    Terrorists and insurgents mount terrible attacks
    You can trust me to keep giving you all the facts

    We’re taking Iraq back one street at a time
    And after all I’ve got plenty of time
    You can’t get me out, I’ll keep decidin’ fine
    You can’t get me out till two thousand and nine

    Cashel Boylo

  6. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    To the tune of The Streets of Laredo

    My Surge In Baghdad

    The direction of the fighting’s beginning to shift
    The good news is giving me quite a lift
    There are still horrific attacks in Iraq
    But shoot, we’re winnin’, we’re hittin’ ‘em back

    Incremental gains day by day in Baghdad
    The news on my surge, it sure ain’t all bad
    The high casualty rates will likely continue
    Our expectations are coming out true

    Winning block by block we are in Baghdad
    Sure the rest of Iraq is looking quite sad
    Terrorists and insurgents mount terrible attacks
    You can trust me to keep giving you all the facts

    We’re taking Iraq back one street at a time
    And after all I’ve got plenty of time
    You can’t get me out, I’ll keep decidin’ fine
    You can’t get me out till two thousand and nine

    Cashel Boylo

  7. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    To the tune of The Streets of Laredo

    My Surge In Baghdad

    The direction of the fighting’s beginning to shift
    The good news is giving me quite a lift
    There are still horrific attacks in Iraq
    But shoot, we’re winnin’, we’re hittin’ ‘em back

    Incremental gains day by day in Baghdad
    The news on my surge, it sure ain’t all bad
    The high casualty rates will likely continue
    Our expectations are coming out true

    Winning block by block we are in Baghdad
    Sure the rest of Iraq is looking quite sad
    Terrorists and insurgents mount terrible attacks
    You can trust me to keep giving you all the facts

    We’re taking Iraq back one street at a time
    And after all I’ve got plenty of time
    You can’t get me out, I’ll keep decidin’ fine
    You can’t get me out till two thousand and nine

    Cashel Boylo

  8. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    To the tune of The Streets of Laredo

    My Surge In Baghdad

    The direction of the fighting’s beginning to shift
    The good news is giving me quite a lift
    There are still horrific attacks in Iraq
    But shoot, we’re winnin’, we’re hittin’ ‘em back

    Incremental gains day by day in Baghdad
    The news on my surge, it sure ain’t all bad
    The high casualty rates will likely continue
    Our expectations are coming out true

    Winning block by block we are in Baghdad
    Sure the rest of Iraq is looking quite sad
    Terrorists and insurgents mount terrible attacks
    You can trust me to keep giving you all the facts

    We’re taking Iraq back one street at a time
    And after all I’ve got plenty of time
    You can’t get me out, I’ll keep decidin’ fine
    You can’t get me out till two thousand and nine

    Cashel Boylo

  9. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    To the tune of The Streets of Laredo

    My Surge In Baghdad

    The direction of the fighting’s beginning to shift
    The good news is giving me quite a lift
    There are still horrific attacks in Iraq
    But shoot, we’re winnin’, we’re hittin’ ‘em back

    Incremental gains day by day in Baghdad
    The news on my surge, it sure ain’t all bad
    The high casualty rates will likely continue
    Our expectations are coming out true

    Winning block by block we are in Baghdad
    Sure the rest of Iraq is looking quite sad
    Terrorists and insurgents mount terrible attacks
    You can trust me to keep giving you all the facts

    We’re taking Iraq back one street at a time
    And after all I’ve got plenty of time
    You can’t get me out, I’ll keep decidin’ fine
    You can’t get me out till two thousand and nine

    Cashel Boylo

  10. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:17 pm

    To the tune of The Streets of Laredo

    My Surge In Baghdad

    The direction of the fighting’s beginning to shift
    The good news is giving me quite a lift
    There are still horrific attacks in Iraq
    But shoot, we’re winnin’, we’re hittin’ ‘em back

    Incremental gains day by day in Baghdad
    The news on my surge, it sure ain’t all bad
    The high casualty rates will likely continue
    Our expectations are coming out true

    Winning block by block we are in Baghdad
    Sure the rest of Iraq is looking quite sad
    Terrorists and insurgents mount terrible attacks
    You can trust me to keep giving you all the facts

    We’re taking Iraq back one street at a time
    And after all I’ve got plenty of time
    You can’t get me out, I’ll keep decidin’ fine
    You can’t get me out till two thousand and nine

    Cashel Boylo

  11. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    To the tune of The Streets of Laredo

    My Surge In Baghdad

    The direction of the fighting’s beginning to shift
    The good news is giving me quite a lift
    There are still horrific attacks in Iraq
    But shoot, we’re winnin’, we’re hittin’ ‘em back

    Incremental gains day by day in Baghdad
    The news on my surge, it sure ain’t all bad
    The high casualty rates will likely continue
    Our expectations are coming out true

    Winning block by block we are in Baghdad
    Sure the rest of Iraq is looking quite sad
    Terrorists and insurgents mount terrible attacks
    You can trust me to keep giving you all the facts

    We’re taking Iraq back one street at a time
    And after all I’ve got plenty of time
    You can’t get me out, I’ll keep decidin’ fine
    You can’t get me out till two thousand and nine

    Cashel Boylo

  12. Cashel Boylo

    April 25, 2007 at 2:18 pm

    To the tune of The Streets of Laredo

    My Surge In Baghdad

    The direction of the fighting’s beginning to shift
    The good news is giving me quite a lift
    There are still horrific attacks in Iraq
    But shoot, we’re winnin’, we’re hittin’ ‘em back

    Incremental gains day by day in Baghdad
    The news on my surge, it sure ain’t all bad
    The high casualty rates will likely continue
    Our expectations are coming out true

    Winning block by block we are in Baghdad
    Sure the rest of Iraq is looking quite sad
    Terrorists and insurgents mount terrible attacks
    You can trust me to keep giving you all the facts

    We’re taking Iraq back one street at a time
    And after all I’ve got plenty of time
    You can’t get me out, I’ll keep decidin’ fine
    You can’t get me out till two thousand and nine

    Cashel Boylo