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		<title>By: Sandy Price</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13127</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot imagine any woman carrying a fetus for 8 or 9 months and then wanting it washed out of her body.  As a mother of 2 daughters and one step-son the thought is repugnant to me.  But, I am not all women!

If my life were in jeopardy and my children were in my care I might have to make this decision.  However yesterday the decision was removed from me and my Doctor and the Social Conservatives are celebrating that Christian legislation was finally passed in America.

I was a Christian for years and learned a different view of Jesus Christ.  Would he demand American laws be written in his name?  Not the Jesus I learned about.  He wanted a separation from the government of all nations and for the people to represent him.  He wasn&#039;t particularly pleased with the temples and citadels built to hold his icons.  

The Social Conservatives behind President Bush have declared a war with the American people and the onslaught of Christian Legislation has just begun.  They want all education and legislation to be taught under the terrorism of hell and damnation and these Christians are losing their memberships because their laws are often unjust.  

Their own children are leaving the churches in droves and they only way to &quot;win one for Jesus&quot; is to use the Supreme Court.  I&#039;m sorry their homes are splitting up and their need to legislate their prohibitions have only 20 months left under President Bush.  I refuse to let these sad people make my nation into a police state.  

If another Social Conservative is elected President this will simply be the opening act for a complete rebuild of our Constitution.  The war was declared yesterday when the Supreme Court took a stand against American choices.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot imagine any woman carrying a fetus for 8 or 9 months and then wanting it washed out of her body.  As a mother of 2 daughters and one step-son the thought is repugnant to me.  But, I am not all women!</p>
<p>If my life were in jeopardy and my children were in my care I might have to make this decision.  However yesterday the decision was removed from me and my Doctor and the Social Conservatives are celebrating that Christian legislation was finally passed in America.</p>
<p>I was a Christian for years and learned a different view of Jesus Christ.  Would he demand American laws be written in his name?  Not the Jesus I learned about.  He wanted a separation from the government of all nations and for the people to represent him.  He wasn&#8217;t particularly pleased with the temples and citadels built to hold his icons.  </p>
<p>The Social Conservatives behind President Bush have declared a war with the American people and the onslaught of Christian Legislation has just begun.  They want all education and legislation to be taught under the terrorism of hell and damnation and these Christians are losing their memberships because their laws are often unjust.  </p>
<p>Their own children are leaving the churches in droves and they only way to &#8220;win one for Jesus&#8221; is to use the Supreme Court.  I&#8217;m sorry their homes are splitting up and their need to legislate their prohibitions have only 20 months left under President Bush.  I refuse to let these sad people make my nation into a police state.  </p>
<p>If another Social Conservative is elected President this will simply be the opening act for a complete rebuild of our Constitution.  The war was declared yesterday when the Supreme Court took a stand against American choices.  </p>
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		<title>By: Jeffers</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandy,

While I will spot you the possibility that life may not &quot;begin&quot; upon conception, should we really allow abortion right up to the moment of birth?

Wouldn&#039;t it be prudent to assume that somewhere along the time of pregnancy a fetus is blessed with a sole? Wouldn&#039;t we want to offer some protection to that being, as we would a moment after birth?

I do not wish to impose my religious values on others, but we all seem to share a common value against the murder of an innocent being. So when does this occur?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy,</p>
<p>While I will spot you the possibility that life may not &#8220;begin&#8221; upon conception, should we really allow abortion right up to the moment of birth?</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be prudent to assume that somewhere along the time of pregnancy a fetus is blessed with a sole? Wouldn&#8217;t we want to offer some protection to that being, as we would a moment after birth?</p>
<p>I do not wish to impose my religious values on others, but we all seem to share a common value against the murder of an innocent being. So when does this occur?</p>
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		<title>By: jarrodlombardo</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13144</link>
		<dc:creator>jarrodlombardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This just a part of a war between good and evil.   Of course, both sides think they are good.  Unlike the Dominionists (http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm), we don&#039;t advocate intolerance and genocide.  I haven&#039;t yet heard a good plan for fighting them that doesn&#039;t play into their desires for full-on civil war. :(

--Jarrod]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just a part of a war between good and evil.   Of course, both sides think they are good.  Unlike the Dominionists (<a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm</a>), we don&#8217;t advocate intolerance and genocide.  I haven&#8217;t yet heard a good plan for fighting them that doesn&#8217;t play into their desires for full-on civil war. <img src='http://www.capitolhillblue.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8211;Jarrod</p>
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		<title>By: Cailleach</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13163</link>
		<dc:creator>Cailleach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alas, there are some situations that call for late-term abortion to save a woman&#039;s life. Severe eclampsia is one. It results from extreme high blood pressure, and will become more necessary as our obesity rate rises. In eclampsia, the only way to save the pregnant woman&#039;s life is an emergency abortion. There is no time to go to a judge first. In most cases the fetus is dead already. The death of the woman may leave her other children, if she has them, motherless as well. If she is a single mother, who will raise her children? How can the Supreme Court and the &quot;right to life&quot; movement justify mandating the death of a woman over the life of a fetus who may die when she does or may be dead anyway? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas, there are some situations that call for late-term abortion to save a woman&#8217;s life. Severe eclampsia is one. It results from extreme high blood pressure, and will become more necessary as our obesity rate rises. In eclampsia, the only way to save the pregnant woman&#8217;s life is an emergency abortion. There is no time to go to a judge first. In most cases the fetus is dead already. The death of the woman may leave her other children, if she has them, motherless as well. If she is a single mother, who will raise her children? How can the Supreme Court and the &#8220;right to life&#8221; movement justify mandating the death of a woman over the life of a fetus who may die when she does or may be dead anyway? </p>
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		<title>By: Cailleach</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13164</link>
		<dc:creator>Cailleach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In deciding on the admissability of a doctor-recommended procedure, aren&#039;t the Supremes practicing medicine without a license?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In deciding on the admissability of a doctor-recommended procedure, aren&#8217;t the Supremes practicing medicine without a license?</p>
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		<title>By: SEAL</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13172</link>
		<dc:creator>SEAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SEAL:
We have all heard the arguments from both sides way too many times.  But there is only one issue - individual rights.  This time it happened to be about abortion.  The funamentalist christians in America have worked and planned for more than 40 years to garner enough power in government to FORCE everyone in the nation to obey them.  They have systematically stacked every level of government from the lowest cities and counties all the way up to the president to finally have the POWER to force their will upon us all.

This is a classic example of how a small group of extremists with a passion, the will to organize, and the patience to stay with a plan can obtain their goal.  Abortion is only an issue.  The goal is POWER.  The power to dictate how people will conduct their lives.  You don&#039;t have to believe as we do but you have to behave as we believe.

Those who have actually looked at the history of this world see that this has been what christianity has done ever since it started.  They used whatever means necessary to conquer and force their religion upon the conquered.  When they could not conquer they worked underneath to instill their beliefs until they built enough of a following to have their way.  Throughout history they demonstrate brutality and genocide.

Christianity is the real terrorism - all over the world.  The christian religion is based upon terrorism.  Do as you&#039;re told or go to hell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEAL:<br />
We have all heard the arguments from both sides way too many times.  But there is only one issue &#8211; individual rights.  This time it happened to be about abortion.  The funamentalist christians in America have worked and planned for more than 40 years to garner enough power in government to FORCE everyone in the nation to obey them.  They have systematically stacked every level of government from the lowest cities and counties all the way up to the president to finally have the POWER to force their will upon us all.</p>
<p>This is a classic example of how a small group of extremists with a passion, the will to organize, and the patience to stay with a plan can obtain their goal.  Abortion is only an issue.  The goal is POWER.  The power to dictate how people will conduct their lives.  You don&#8217;t have to believe as we do but you have to behave as we believe.</p>
<p>Those who have actually looked at the history of this world see that this has been what christianity has done ever since it started.  They used whatever means necessary to conquer and force their religion upon the conquered.  When they could not conquer they worked underneath to instill their beliefs until they built enough of a following to have their way.  Throughout history they demonstrate brutality and genocide.</p>
<p>Christianity is the real terrorism &#8211; all over the world.  The christian religion is based upon terrorism.  Do as you&#8217;re told or go to hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffers</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13189</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, if a mother and a small child are trapped in an accident, and removing the mother is only possible if the child is killed, then we can go ahead and kill the child?

After all, her individual rights are at risk?

What about the rights of the child?

Perhaps its ok if the child is special needs.

Can&#039;t you guys see a problem here? I&#039;ll spot you the first three months of pregnancy, then I&#039;ll give you a three month gray period. Can we then have the last three months to give the child some individual right to survive?

Jeffers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if a mother and a small child are trapped in an accident, and removing the mother is only possible if the child is killed, then we can go ahead and kill the child?</p>
<p>After all, her individual rights are at risk?</p>
<p>What about the rights of the child?</p>
<p>Perhaps its ok if the child is special needs.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you guys see a problem here? I&#8217;ll spot you the first three months of pregnancy, then I&#8217;ll give you a three month gray period. Can we then have the last three months to give the child some individual right to survive?</p>
<p>Jeffers</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Price</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13193</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who are you appointing to be the &quot;we&quot; in who allows the final decision on all abortions?  You seem to believe that the Federal Government has the authority to be the &quot;we.&quot;

I do not.  Every citizen in America has the right to decide what to do with his/her body.  The female body is the carrier of life and it is her decision to take that final step if her life is in danger or not.  I lost a dear friend who had a problem with high blood pressure just before she was due.  Her father (a doctor) wanted to fly her to France for an abortion as she had 3 other children.  He was too late and the stroke caused by the pregnancy killed her.  

I really do not believe that anyone or any government has the authority to force this on anyone else.  If you want to live in a socialized nation where the government sets your laws for you, move to one.  

I was in my breeding years prior to Roe v Wade and I lived in constant fear I would get pregnant again.  It ruined my marriage as birth contol was not that accurate.  Today the ladies have it easier but their bodies often let them down.  You seem to want the government to step in.  I&#039;m assuming you are a man and have no concept of the fear women live with.  Many decide to be sterilized instead of living on the edge of fear.  Will your next desire be to ban sterilization?  

One ban leads to another until we find ourselves contacting our congressmen for permission on our decisions.

The unborn has no legal authorty in America.  The unborn cannot be counted in a census, cannot inherit wealth until born and do I read you want this changed to suit some moral problem you have?  If you are married, I suggest you discuss this with anyone you might want to marry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are you appointing to be the &#8220;we&#8221; in who allows the final decision on all abortions?  You seem to believe that the Federal Government has the authority to be the &#8220;we.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do not.  Every citizen in America has the right to decide what to do with his/her body.  The female body is the carrier of life and it is her decision to take that final step if her life is in danger or not.  I lost a dear friend who had a problem with high blood pressure just before she was due.  Her father (a doctor) wanted to fly her to France for an abortion as she had 3 other children.  He was too late and the stroke caused by the pregnancy killed her.  </p>
<p>I really do not believe that anyone or any government has the authority to force this on anyone else.  If you want to live in a socialized nation where the government sets your laws for you, move to one.  </p>
<p>I was in my breeding years prior to Roe v Wade and I lived in constant fear I would get pregnant again.  It ruined my marriage as birth contol was not that accurate.  Today the ladies have it easier but their bodies often let them down.  You seem to want the government to step in.  I&#8217;m assuming you are a man and have no concept of the fear women live with.  Many decide to be sterilized instead of living on the edge of fear.  Will your next desire be to ban sterilization?  </p>
<p>One ban leads to another until we find ourselves contacting our congressmen for permission on our decisions.</p>
<p>The unborn has no legal authorty in America.  The unborn cannot be counted in a census, cannot inherit wealth until born and do I read you want this changed to suit some moral problem you have?  If you are married, I suggest you discuss this with anyone you might want to marry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffers</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13214</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I assure you I have discussed this with my wife. She would probably tell you that babies are viable  long before they leave the womb. She makes me look moderate on this issue.

You seem so militant on this issue, yet you believe I have injecting my &quot;morals&quot;. 

Society seems to have accepted a morality that protects each from being murdered, not me. As to rights for the unborn, several states seem willing to charge attackers with double homicides for killing pregnant women. So that seems to make the difference dependent on whether the mother wanted the unborn child. Seems like an &quot;abortion&quot; of logic.

Sorry, as I have a great respect for many of your stands, but on this one you offer no compromise.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I assure you I have discussed this with my wife. She would probably tell you that babies are viable  long before they leave the womb. She makes me look moderate on this issue.</p>
<p>You seem so militant on this issue, yet you believe I have injecting my &#8220;morals&#8221;. </p>
<p>Society seems to have accepted a morality that protects each from being murdered, not me. As to rights for the unborn, several states seem willing to charge attackers with double homicides for killing pregnant women. So that seems to make the difference dependent on whether the mother wanted the unborn child. Seems like an &#8220;abortion&#8221; of logic.</p>
<p>Sorry, as I have a great respect for many of your stands, but on this one you offer no compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Price</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/2292/comment-page-1#comment-13218</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You seem to want the government to do it.  You&#039;re right there is no compromise with freedom.  You can either recognize freedom or look to the corrupt government to set your laws.  We cannot have a  couple of freedoms in America.  We have freedoms or we don&#039;t.  I can cannot think of single reason to ask the Congress to prohibit any social law.  

  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to want the government to do it.  You&#8217;re right there is no compromise with freedom.  You can either recognize freedom or look to the corrupt government to set your laws.  We cannot have a  couple of freedoms in America.  We have freedoms or we don&#8217;t.  I can cannot think of single reason to ask the Congress to prohibit any social law.  </p>
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