Generation X Virginian

Had that University been armed that killer would have been taken down before he had a chance to kill 30 more kids. Had he not had a gun, he would have used dynamite or whatever the Oklahoma killer used. Had one or two of those students been armed the disaster would have been much less.

This mess in VT calls for more guns to be issued to well trained students for their own protection. I will never give up a weapon to a government led by a lying coniving enemy of freedom. In fact I will never give up a weapon to anyone.

I rest the blame on the shoulders of our “compassionate conservative” society, which refuses to deal with mental illness. In fact, as a society, we refuse to deal with any illness, we force that off onto the individuals.

If there were universal health care – physical and mental (I see no distinction between the two, except that we are more able to influence our own physical health when it comes to being over weight or eating the wrong foods) – with no stigma attached to those suffering with mental illness – if we were an inclusive society rather than a somewhat class based socially excluding one, if we were, well, kind, then perhaps we could avoid these situations.

The Glock in question was simply the tool this individual selected, he could have as easily built a bomb/vest or some other device, with the same consequence. It was not the gun that killed those innocents, it was a deranged, troubled individual who, perhaps for the first time in his young life, felt like he was “in charge”, he wasn’t getting laughed at, in fact it’s reported that towards the end, before he took his own life, he was laughing.

Peace

Steve

Was the shooter a patsy? Who were his handlers? We need a thorough honest investigation into these shooter connections. I am greatly troubled by the scale of this and the timing of it as well. Let us not be to quick to judge without the facts.

Events have happened in Scotland and Australia. The end result was the confiscation of all firearms.

Now comes new information, this was a failure of the system. This person was a person of interest for quite some time. He was put in mental institutions for two times, once for stalking and once reported to authorities by his parents as suicidal. Charges were not filed, but the University was notified that they had a problem with this individual. The Shooter was crying out for help, yet everyone let him down. He was in desperate need of Mental Health Care. We made this guy a patsy, because of our in-action.

Then I ask where were the brave men that should have broken those doors down and shot the shooter and saved those children? 3 hours? Give me a break.

I personally, would rather have the number of gun crimes we currently have than no guns allowed. The cost versus the benefit makes sense to me. Others will place different values on different things and may come to different conclusions.

–Jarrod

Once we give up our right to bear arms, were for sure totally enslaved. NEVER GIVE UP YOUR RIGHTS.

Not exactly a fair comparison to lawful gun ownership.

In addition, if the figures you use are correct:

Police Foundation report showing Americans own some 192 million firearms, 65 million of which are handguns…

Then why isn’t gun violence even higher, if it really is the guns fault?

As far as the NRA, consider the following, which you apparantly overlooked in your research:

Darrel Scott, father of Craig Scott, who watched two of his friends murdered at Columbine High School and Rachel Joy Scott (murdered in the same school after professing her faith in God), spoke before the Subcommittee on Crime House Judiciary Committee, United States House of Representatives, on Thursday, May 27, 1999, at 2:00p.m. at 2141 Rayburn House Office Building. The following is the speech he gave:

Since the dawn of creation there has been both good and evil in the heart of men and of women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher and the other children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.

The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain’s heart.

In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA – because I don’t believe that they are responsible for my daughters death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel’s murder I would be their strongest opponent.

I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy – it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of that blame lies here in this room. Much of that blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves…..

And don’t forget the near doubling of armed crimes that has taken place in England since the “great gun ban” of 1997. All of the Brady supplied statistics that cite England as a safer place thanks to gun control seem to stop before that point.

Gun control isn’t about guns, it’s about control. The state owes you no safety – the SCOTUS has ruled on that numerous times.

In recopgnition of that fact, I’d rather have the means to defend myself and my family, thank you very much.