Cheney nabbed rushing to lie

Bush’s lies to large audiences are more judiciously phrased. But Dick Cheney lies to the likes of Rush Limbaugh and his 15 million listeners. Cheney must be wearing an asbestos codpiece as tells his bald-faced lies to keep his manhood from being toasted with his pants afire.

This week we had another highly credible debunking of a major Bush-Cheney lie about the reason for invading Iraq. (See “Pentagon report debunks prewar Iraq-Al Qaeda connection” Christain Science Monitor)

The final proof that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi’s terrorist network operating out of northern Iraq wasn’t even initially part of al Qaeda, and never was sanctioned by Saddam Hussein was front page news.

This should finally lay to rest the lie about Saddam’s love affair with al-Qaeda, proving it was nothing but a neocon’s nocturnal emission.

Bush has refrained from consorting on air with the media’s rapid right wing. But his vice president apparently is free to make a fool of himself by jumping into the the cesspool of right-wing talk radio.

Dick Cheney has affection bordering on the perverse for the reprehensible hate-monger Rush Limbaugh and his fifteen million listeners.

There he is free to give invisible nods of agreement and approval while Rush lies his ass off and tells his slavering audience that liberals are selling out America.

On April 5th, on the heels of the release of a previously unknown Pentagon study laying out the facts which debunks the notion of a Saddam al Qaeda connection, Cheney upchucked the putrified lie about Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Saddam Hussein being in cahoots.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: … So those are very real problems, and to advocate withdrawal from Iraq at this point, it seems to me, simply would play right into the hands of Al-Qaeda.

RUSH: It may not just be Iraq. Yesterday I read that Ike Skelton, who chairs — I forget the name of the committee — in the next defense appropriations bill for fiscal ’08, is going to actually remove the phrase “global war on terror,” because they don’t think it’s applicable. They want to refer to conflicts as individual skirmishes, but they’re going to try to rid the defense appropriation bill, and thus official government language, of that term. Does that give any indication of their motivation, or what they think of the current plight in which the country finds itself?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Sure. Well, it’s just flawed thinking. I like Ike Skelton. I worked closely with Ike when I was secretary of defense. He’s chairman of the Armed Services Committee now. Ike’s a good man. He’s just dead wrong about this, though. Think about it. Just to give you one example, Rush. Remember Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian terrorist, an Al-Qaeda affiliate. He ran a training camp in Afghanistan for Al-Qaeda, then migrated after we went into Afghanistan and shut ‘em down there, he went to Baghdad. He took up residence there before we ever launched into Iraq, organized the Al-Qaeda operations inside Iraq before we even arrived on the scene and then of course led the charge for Iraq until we killed him last June. He’s the guy who arranged the bombing of the Samarra mosque that precipitated the sectarian violence between Shi’a and Sunni. This is Al-Qaeda operating in Iraq, and as I say, they were present before we invaded Iraq. There’s no way you can segment out and say, “Well, we’ll fight the war on terror in Pakistan or Afghanistan but we can separate Iraq. That’s not really, in any way, shape, or form related.” It’s just dead wrong. Bin Laden has said this is the central battle in the war on terror.

Read entire interview from Rush’s website

As avid listeners hung onto his words and visualized their alter-ego Rush liplocking onto the veep’s mouth, Cheney pontificated about how withdrawing our troops would “play right into the hands of al-Qaeda.”

Those who have done a little reading know that the CIA suspected Osama wanted to Bush to win reelection in 2004 and that this is why he released a video condemning him just before the election.

How else could a rational observer take the timing of this release by the most hated man in America than as a calculated ploy to aid Bush in his bid for reelection?

There is certainly a good case for believing al Qaeda benefits from our staying in Iraq and continuing to inflame anti-American sentiment. Like many other controversial issues of the day, you won’t see such issues debated on Rush’s show.

Important questions challenging lies this aren’t even open for debate on the right wing media. Rush’s listeners will never ask probing questions of the liars like Cheney because Rush never does.

Bush’s lies are more temperate. For example he only suggests that the Democrats unpatriotic, and ignorant armchair generals trying to micromanage the war. But in fact Bush got rid of the generals who disagreed with him.

In their place he put generals like Petraeus who, for whatever reason, have decided to go along with his plan for a “surge”.

Bush now stylizes his lies for mass consumption because his audience is far larger. But to get the truth of what he really believes you have to pay attention to what Cheney says to the more limited audience on shows like Rush Limbaugh’s.

The good news is that media watchdogs, both on the internet and in the mainstream media, are now engaged in monitoring and reporting on what Cheney and others are saying to highly partisan audiences.

28 Responses to "Cheney nabbed rushing to lie"

  1. kspena  April 9, 2007 at 12:01 am

    As I look around for a reason, any reason, that Cheney continues to tell these stories, it has occured to me that he might be doing so because it is preferable to look stupid and dense than to expose oneself as a traitor. If he created or used these fabrications knowing they were false to get us into war, he would be a traitor to this country. At this point, it’s probably better from his point of view to appear stupid than be labeled a traitor. I have the sense he’s trying to avoid the latter by making such an effort to appear the former.

  2. SEAL  April 9, 2007 at 1:04 am

    I wondered about that myself. I am convinced that when the time comes that he knows it will all fall apart for them very soon, Cheney will resign for health reasons. “I was just going by the information they handed me.” “I really believe we could have won in Iraq if we had enough time.” He may be laying the ground work for that, now. He’s just arranging another deferment. Medical, this time. Avoiding responsibility is what he does best. Besides, Bush was set up to be the fall guy from the beginning. And Cheney is still pissed at Bush for canning his bed buddy, Rumsfeld.

  3. Bill Jonke  April 9, 2007 at 9:01 am

    There wouldn’t be a codpiece small enough for Cheney; he has to cover his fat ass, and that’s the real challenge.

    The poor man needs help.

  4. John Hanks  April 9, 2007 at 9:17 am

    Cheney feels free to lie because the political base of the Republican party is not “political”, but “subversive”. The Republican party got it’s start getting rich from the Civil War. Now, everything about it is false from its corporatism to its funda-nazi religions and its bone headed ideas about education and the military. It is a solid marriage between the criminal rich and the lower middle class.

    You don’t have to love the Democrats to hate the Republicans. But, most Democrats are not out and out supremacist crooks and traitors.

  5. Cashel Boylo  April 9, 2007 at 10:50 am

    “Cheney will resign for health reasons.”
    I’m terribly afraid you are right.
    Cheney resigns, Bush appoints Rice Vice-president, she then runs for president and gets nominated.
    The certifiable thirty percent that will swallow anything Republican vote for her plus a lot of blacks and a lot of women.
    Lieberman, and Nader run and split the anti-republican vote and Svengala ConDoll wins easily, nukes Iran etc etc…

  6. Jan  April 9, 2007 at 11:04 am

    Joe, the term you are looking for, I believe, is “Insanity”.

  7. Steven Horn  April 9, 2007 at 11:07 am

    I love that term “Bush’s lies are more temperate” – doesn’t matter if they’re temperate or not – they are lies. Is one type of lie more acceptable than another? I think not – I know the “white lie/black lie” argument didn’t fly with my parents, and doesn’t fly with me.

    This administration has somehow constructed itself on a foundation of lies – there are no shades of truth – there is truth – based on facts – which can be proven – anything less is a lie.

    Cheney? He wouldn’t know the truth if it greeted him behind prison doors – Dog willing, someday that will happen.

    Peace

    Steve

  8. Jan  April 9, 2007 at 11:16 am

    Insanity can be defined as, “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

    Before you start consulting the neighborhood shrinks, though, it is a joke. I once visited an ex-fiance’ three years after we broke up and he had this sign on his desk. Maybe if he had had it on his desk when we first got together, we would still BE together.

    Cheney is a very dangerous man and I am very afraid. Did anyone see the video of him lurking in the bushes in the Rose garden while Bu$h was spewing a speech? Caught by none other than C-Span. Check it out on YouTube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cip0jbZWzY

  9. Bill Jonke  April 9, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    I’d forgotten that song. It subliminally or subconsciously was written about Cheney.

    Who knew???

  10. Hal Brown  April 9, 2007 at 1:39 pm

    (Steve Horn:)

    I hope you don’t think this. I meant exactly what I said, that Bush’s lies are more temperate (i.e., showing moderation or self-restraint). This is because he addresses a wider audience, and his words are likely to receive much more media attention than Cheney’s.

    Bush is a lying wolf often who dresses in sheep’s clothing. Cheney is a nasty naked rapid wolf whose fans eat up his lies. I have little doubt that in private Bush is as nasty as Cheney and just as willing to lie to the American people.

    I think Bush’s words are more temperate because they are carefully scripted by Rove, while Cheney doesn’t mediate his words. But I think Cheney says what the president believes, and is more willing to make outragiously false statements.

    Fortunately the media is now covering Cheney when he plays in the right wing media cesspool, as this example of his Limbaugh lie-a-thon shows.

  11. John  April 9, 2007 at 4:45 pm

    To me, the scariest part is the thought of Rush Humbug having 15 million listeners. Are Americans really that stupid?

  12. Judy Bodnar  April 9, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    The fact that Cheney “The Dick” ALWAYS lies, is not news! The fact that Cheney along with his frontman Bush have still not been charged with crimes against America is amazing! The fact that anyone would still believe anything he says, is not only sad, but pathetic!

  13. VietnamVet  May 7, 2007 at 10:15 am

    Everyone with a grain of insight knows the man is a pathological liar. But, what happened to all that evidence that was uncovered clearly showing Cheny had a direct hand in insuring that Halliburton got that multi-billion dollar, sole source (no competition) contract? There were emails, several contracting officers that came forward, abundant evidence of fraudulent claims/payments, etc., etc., yet nothing more has been said or done. The contract was in contravention of the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR), the contract management was sloppy (if not steeped in fraud), and Cheny’s participation in its award was clearly a conflict of interest if not criminal. The Democrat controlled congress would do well to delve into how Halliburton got that lucrative contract and Cheny’s participation in its award. One only has to look at the increase in Halliburton’s stock value since this war fiasco started to see how that company, which Cheny managed, has profited.

  14. Razor  May 7, 2007 at 10:36 am

    Probably for the same reason the 2.3 trillion dollars that went missing from the pentagon has not been discussed. Or the 8 billion in cash unaccounted for in Iraq. Major major theft of taxpayers money by the powers that be.

    So disgusting is the fact that if all the stolen and misappropriated money taken during the past six years were spent on domestic projects in this country, there would be no health care problems, and most would be employed. But for that to happen there has to be honest men in government who practice integrity and honor.

    Fat chance of that becoming reality any time soon.

  15. Sandy Price  April 7, 2007 at 10:10 am

    You did it with perfection! If I had the stomach to do it, I would head over to Fox to see how or even if they would report this.

    The longer the Bush Administration stays in office the worse they become. Is there no end to their corruption and lies?

  16. The South Point  April 7, 2007 at 11:30 am

    No-o-o-o! Not my very hero of heroes, Dick Cheney! Cheney wouldn NEVER lie to ANYONE! I KNOW that for absolute certain because I just know it.

    Well, ok, maybe there are sometimes Cheney might tell a slight fib or two or three or four or five… But fibs aren’t really lies, you know. Especially when there’s lots of war profiteering to be done. Let’s keep our sense of priorities here.

    Besides, lies aren’t really lies when one keeps one’s fingers secretly crossed.

  17. mojibyrd  April 7, 2007 at 1:33 pm

    Talk about your paradigm shift, i would have never thunk the bush administration to be a bunch of liars, particularly cheney…all one has to do is look at that honest face of his and know it isn’t so….to hell with what we already know about these lying bastards, let’s get impeachment on the table for the lot of them before it is too late.

  18. AustinRanter  April 7, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    According to a declassified Defense Department report released yesterday, somebody is lying big time…and the finger of fate is pointing at Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush. This time the lies are in black and white for all the world to see.

    It is a mystery to me why the International Authorities and the American Congress can’t see the parallel with Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush war mongering based on a lie with Saddam’s crimes against humanity.

    Isn’t lying to a nation and it’s government to engage in war…thereby being the instrument of 1000′s of deaths…isn’t that crimes against humanity?

    Why isn’t there, at least, International legal proceeding being initiated as we speak to try Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush for their crimes against humanity?

    They hanged Saddam…so what will be these war criminals punishment.

  19. Sandy Price  April 7, 2007 at 3:35 pm

    I don’t know what is wrong with Congress about all this. It is absolutely crimes against humanity, and should be flagged by the U.N. I’m not surprised you replied to this subject, your posts at Reader Rant are fabulous. I cannot respond to them as I was banned, and rightly so. I read you nonetheless.

  20. Cashel Boylo  April 9, 2007 at 10:37 am

    Right on Austin Ranter, but why — like nearly everybody — do you leave out big war criminal Svengala ConDoll, the National Security ADVISER who preached this lie and ADVISED invasion of Iraq?

  21. SEAL  April 7, 2007 at 4:41 pm

    Cheney has come out to travel the circuit of their base and pump them up. They know they have lost everyone else, so they must keep the 30% base on their side or they will lose all control. But I’m not sure they can hold them.

    I live close to the west coast of central Florida. This is in the heart of the Bible belt. You can’t drive more than 10 blocks in any direction without seeing at least one church. My residence is in a real redneck area where the homes all sit on one to ten acres of land and we all know each other. Most of my neighbors supported Bush in both of his elections. They are his base. You can hear Rush limpbaugh coming from the cabs of their pickups. And they are not happy. They feel betrayed. They say they were lied to. They say we should get out of Iraq.

    But they still hate the democrats and Hillary is the devil’s wife. They wont support anything the democrats want but they are not going to support Bush/Cheney anymore. If the democrats stand their ground on the war funding bill, the republicans aren’t going to have much public support. “Support the troops” isn’t working anymore. I hope the democrats are aware of this and find the courage to not back down. If they force Bush into a showdown he will lose and never recover.

  22. Joe  April 7, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    Every time they let Cheney out of his cave, he embarasses us all. But combined with another Neanderthal like Limbaugh he compounds the embarassment and shame. Two wrongs don’t make a right!

    What is it called when an individual keeps repeating a statement in spite of all evidence to the contrary? What is the term in abnormal psychology? Obsessive compulsive? Denial?

    When will authentic conservatives purge themselves of these White House phonies?

  23. SEAL  April 7, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    I asked one of my doctor’s wives who is a psychiatrist to answer your question. I gave it to her in your context. She said the current medical term for Cheney is that “he is a freaking lunatic.” She added: “Delusional.” “Obsessed.” “Out of touch with reality.” “A danger to society.” “Should be confined for intensive treatment.” And a few words I didn’t understand.

  24. Kent Shaw  April 7, 2007 at 10:46 pm

    … stubborn bastard.

  25. Rob  April 10, 2007 at 9:22 am

    Cheney lies with a very specific goal in mind. He knows that being able to claim that Saddam and al Qaeda were in cahoots plays very well with a certain segment of the population.

    He’s lying to manipulate people. That’s not the actions of a delusional person. This fits with Cheney having anti-social personality traits, if not the full-blown disorder. That’s no big surprise — most politicians rate high on the sociopathy score.

    The one exception that I can think of, President Jimmy Carter, might actually explain why a certain level of sociopathy in a politician is a good idea.

    With politicians, the question is often “Who are they screwing?” Whether it’s interns or the public is the only difference.

    BTW: Is there a web site that says how we’re transliterating “al Qaeda” this week? I have trouble keeping up.

  26. average aussie  April 8, 2007 at 6:16 am

    cheney lies? bush lies? gonzo lies? The list just goes on and on, But the question is now, does anybody listen and/or believe? Surely not, Just let ‘em keep going, sooner or later the whole crowd is going to come unstuck anyway, meantime, each time these bastards open their mouths the more evident the cases against them ought to be. I mean, who really cares what they say, they are now just washed-up has- beens aren’t they? Can’t wait for impeachment proceedings to begin, then we can all shout “Mission Accomplished”.
    Bring ‘em on!

  27. ALD  April 8, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    Every time Bush or Cheney or others on the White House staff speaks, I’ve come to the point that I know they will be lying about anything they say. Does Bush not know that he’s lost the confidence of the American people? Does he not know that most of us just don’t believe his lies and deceptions anymore? How can this man go through life living in his own world, defying all good thinking and logic? He’s obviously in denial, and like Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid said the other day, he’s not the king.

    His legacy will last for decades — debt, dislike and loss of respect and mistrust of the US by every country in the Middle East.

  28. Steven Horn  April 9, 2007 at 11:43 am

    Hi Sandy, Austin –

    I’ll tell you what’s wrong with congress – they lack the courage and personal conviction to do what’s right – they refuse to do what needs to be done. One big problem I have with “liberals” is their need to not offend anyone, their apparent desire to “play nice” – sorry folks – but the current administration IS an offense – and to not take action against them is to support them.

    As for the UN – well – I’d be willing to bet that MONEY has something do do with their inability to act …

    Peace

    Steve

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