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		<title>By: byreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>byreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Griff, now I know with certainty why my ankles are so cold....&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: woody188</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m betting other nations will stand up against the US before it&#039;s own citizens.&#160; I believe what is occuring now in the Middle East can only be described as a regional war that has the potential to develop into a full scale world war.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m betting other nations will stand up against the US before it&#8217;s own citizens.&nbsp; I believe what is occuring now in the Middle East can only be described as a regional war that has the potential to develop into a full scale world war.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Griff for this stunning historical comparison.&#160; A fine piece of work my friend in thought! : )&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The U.S. spends (wastes)&#160;more money&#160;than the combined military might of 44 other nations including China and Russia!?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ike warned us of this unholy alliance between the MIC and their Congressional facilitators and that it would be the ruin of our nation if unchecked.&#160; He originally included Congress in his warning, but decided to remove it from his farewell speech as&#160;not to ruffle too many feathers within his own party, but he would have been spot-on.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well,&#160;our leadership is&#160;obviously unchecked, unchallenged and seemingly we as a nation are toast.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s going to get far worse before it gets better. Many folks believe that it was heavy taxes the British laid upon this nation in the days leading up to the American Revolution and that was what finally&#160;triggered the war, but it was only a part of the insults that the colonists had to endure.&#160; When the British started to force the colonists to provide lodging for their soldiers,&#160;then these same soldiers started messing with the daughters and wives&#160;that our early patriots decided they&#039;d had enough,&#160;causing the spark that fired&#160;the shot that was heard around the world; ie., &quot;The American Revolution&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My question is how far will these evil, traitorous, out of control sob&#039;s we have in Congress and the Executive&#160;Branch&#160;push the American people before justice is served?&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Evidently it won&#039;t be about deficits, foreign adventurism, nor bum domestic legislation.&#160; What will it be that causes the greater body of&#160;our citizens to rise up and throw off this yoke of abject tryanny that in comparison make the 18th century British seem like &#039;good guys&#039;...?!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We&#039;re surely not unarmed as in most nations on earth. So for the&#160; government to simply declare martial will no longer work. The average citizen has no respect for our government.&#160; They&#039;ve lost our respect for many years now.&#160;In these recent times&#160;our leaders&#160;seem to&#160;be simply saying, to Americans...&quot;f**k you...you best learn who your betters are, we&#039;re in control here!&quot; ...&#160;: &#124;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Carl Nemo **==&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Griff for this stunning historical comparison.&nbsp; A fine piece of work my friend in thought! : )</p>
<p>The U.S. spends (wastes)&nbsp;more money&nbsp;than the combined military might of 44 other nations including China and Russia!?</p>
<p>Ike warned us of this unholy alliance between the MIC and their Congressional facilitators and that it would be the ruin of our nation if unchecked.&nbsp; He originally included Congress in his warning, but decided to remove it from his farewell speech as&nbsp;not to ruffle too many feathers within his own party, but he would have been spot-on.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Well,&nbsp;our leadership is&nbsp;obviously unchecked, unchallenged and seemingly we as a nation are toast.&nbsp;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to get far worse before it gets better. Many folks believe that it was heavy taxes the British laid upon this nation in the days leading up to the American Revolution and that was what finally&nbsp;triggered the war, but it was only a part of the insults that the colonists had to endure.&nbsp; When the British started to force the colonists to provide lodging for their soldiers,&nbsp;then these same soldiers started messing with the daughters and wives&nbsp;that our early patriots decided they&#8217;d had enough,&nbsp;causing the spark that fired&nbsp;the shot that was heard around the world; ie., &#8220;The American Revolution&#8221;.</p>
<p>My question is how far will these evil, traitorous, out of control sob&#8217;s we have in Congress and the Executive&nbsp;Branch&nbsp;push the American people before justice is served?&nbsp;</p>
<p>Evidently it won&#8217;t be about deficits, foreign adventurism, nor bum domestic legislation.&nbsp; What will it be that causes the greater body of&nbsp;our citizens to rise up and throw off this yoke of abject tryanny that in comparison make the 18th century British seem like &#8216;good guys&#8217;&#8230;?!</p>
<p>We&#8217;re surely not unarmed as in most nations on earth. So for the&nbsp; government to simply declare martial will no longer work. The average citizen has no respect for our government.&nbsp; They&#8217;ve lost our respect for many years now.&nbsp;In these recent times&nbsp;our leaders&nbsp;seem to&nbsp;be simply saying, to Americans&#8230;&#8221;f**k you&#8230;you best learn who your betters are, we&#8217;re in control here!&#8221; &#8230;&nbsp;: |</p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: griff</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/21539/comment-page-1#comment-56818</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Carl, et al. I had actually written this piece a few days earlier but was reluctant to post it.&#160;I&#039;m not quite sure why. In fact I edited out a few of my more fiery criticisms. But when I saw the article about Obama&#039;s request for additional billions, I decided to roll with it. If nothing else, it provided a nice contemporary lead-in.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m kind of disappointed at the lack of comments, but not at all surprised. I had meant to draw some more parallels in the piece, but thought that maybe others would get that converstion going. Oh well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With that, I&#039;ll share with you&#160;a quote&#160;by Hitler&#160;made in the final briefing to his generals on the eve of the Ardennes Offensive. You may recognize it, I&#039;ve used it one other time here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;This battle is to decide whether we shall live or die. I want all my soldiers to fight hard and without pity. The battle must be fought with brutality and all resistance must be broken in a wave of terror. In this most serious hour of the Fatherland, I expect every one of my soldiers to be courageous and again courageous. The enemy must be beaten - now or never! Thus lives our Germany!&quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Eerily similar to the kind of rhetoric we hear today, no?&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Carl, et al. I had actually written this piece a few days earlier but was reluctant to post it.&nbsp;I&#8217;m not quite sure why. In fact I edited out a few of my more fiery criticisms. But when I saw the article about Obama&#8217;s request for additional billions, I decided to roll with it. If nothing else, it provided a nice contemporary lead-in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of disappointed at the lack of comments, but not at all surprised. I had meant to draw some more parallels in the piece, but thought that maybe others would get that converstion going. Oh well.</p>
<p>With that, I&#8217;ll share with you&nbsp;a quote&nbsp;by Hitler&nbsp;made in the final briefing to his generals on the eve of the Ardennes Offensive. You may recognize it, I&#8217;ve used it one other time here.</p>
<p>&#8220;This battle is to decide whether we shall live or die. I want all my soldiers to fight hard and without pity. The battle must be fought with brutality and all resistance must be broken in a wave of terror. In this most serious hour of the Fatherland, I expect every one of my soldiers to be courageous and again courageous. The enemy must be beaten &#8211; now or never! Thus lives our Germany!&#8221;</p>
<p>Eerily similar to the kind of rhetoric we hear today, no?&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: griff</title>
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		<dc:creator>griff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve seen that same comment before, but I&#039;m afraid I must have missed out on its meaning. Enlighten me?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen that same comment before, but I&#8217;m afraid I must have missed out on its meaning. Enlighten me?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/21539/comment-page-1#comment-56822</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A geat quote concerning&#160;Hitler&#039;s &quot;pep talk&quot; prior to&#160;the Ardennes Offensive.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;***&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;&quot;What luck for rulers that men do not think.&quot; -- Adolf Hitler&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: x-small;&quot;&gt;***&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Which explains how&#160;knaves like Hitler et al.&#160;are both able to climb to high office and maintain control over their citizens&#160;regardless of the nation&#160;or the time in history.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Btw, a substantial portion of my quote archives comes from your submissions Griff.&#160; Thanks... : )&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Carl Nemo **==&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A geat quote concerning&nbsp;Hitler&#8217;s &#8220;pep talk&#8221; prior to&nbsp;the Ardennes Offensive.&nbsp;</p>
<p>***</p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small;">&#8220;What luck for rulers that men do not think.&#8221; &#8212; Adolf Hitler</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small;">***</span></p>
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<p>Which explains how&nbsp;knaves like Hitler et al.&nbsp;are both able to climb to high office and maintain control over their citizens&nbsp;regardless of the nation&nbsp;or the time in history.</p>
<p>Btw, a substantial portion of my quote archives comes from your submissions Griff.&nbsp; Thanks&#8230; : )</p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: griff</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He sure could give a pep talk, huh?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Speaking of such, here&#039;s a quote from one of Obama&#039;s, circa 2008...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&quot;It&#039;s a game where the only way for Democrats to look tough on national security is by talking, and acting and voting like Bush-McCain Republicans, while our troops are sent to fight tour after tour of duty in a war that should&#039;ve never been authorized and should&#039;ve never been waged. That&#039;s what happens when we use 9/11 to scare up votes, and that&#039;s why we need to do more than end a war – we need to end the mindset that got us into war.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;And one you may not have seen by John Adams...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&quot;The human mind is not naturally the clearest atmosphere; but the clouds and vapors which have been raised in it by the artifices of temporal and spiritual tyrants, have made it impossible to see objects in it distinctly.&quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-family: Verdana;&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: small;&quot;&gt;&#160;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He sure could give a pep talk, huh?</p>
<p>Speaking of such, here&#8217;s a quote from one of Obama&#8217;s, circa 2008&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;It&#8217;s a game where the only way for Democrats to look tough on national security is by talking, and acting and voting like Bush-McCain Republicans, while our troops are sent to fight tour after tour of duty in a war that should&#8217;ve never been authorized and should&#8217;ve never been waged. That&#8217;s what happens when we use 9/11 to scare up votes, and that&#8217;s why we need to do more than end a war – we need to end the mindset that got us into war.&#8221;</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: small;">And one you may not have seen by John Adams&#8230;</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;The human mind is not naturally the clearest atmosphere; but the clouds and vapors which have been raised in it by the artifices of temporal and spiritual tyrants, have made it impossible to see objects in it distinctly.&#8221;</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Verdana;"><span style="font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Carl Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I copied the John Adams to my archives, but wouldn&#039;t sully the folder with&#160; fork-tongued blather from the big &quot;O&quot;... : &#124;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Carl Nemo **==&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I copied the John Adams to my archives, but wouldn&#8217;t sully the folder with&nbsp; fork-tongued blather from the big &#8220;O&#8221;&#8230; : |</p>
<p>Carl Nemo **==</p>
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		<title>By: byreen</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reference is to the Ill wind that flows out of the chambers of infamous usurping governence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;History repeats as you say, and without regard for the toll of human suffering, now down our very own Capitol steps that same tempest rages throughout the world to chill the bodies and minds of all in it&#039;s path.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reference is to the Ill wind that flows out of the chambers of infamous usurping governence.</p>
<p>History repeats as you say, and without regard for the toll of human suffering, now down our very own Capitol steps that same tempest rages throughout the world to chill the bodies and minds of all in it&#8217;s path.</p>
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		<title>By: Senegoid</title>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A very good post indeed Mr Griff. Thank you for taking the time.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sadly too many people care not for history and the lessons to be leant.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;History teaches us two very important&#160;things about humanity, at least in my mind.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;History on hand chronicles the creative progress of humanity; the accumulation of knowledge and the dynamic ways in which knowledge has been used to create a more prosperous community. Knowledge&#160;has also given us the ability to create sophisticated weapons of unbelievable destructiveness. Knowledge and related sciences are linear and progressive; exponential in fact, and there is no turning back.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;On the other hand history also gives us an insight into the collective behaviour of the masses and the psychology that motives such behaviour; in this respect we find that human behaviour is not so much progressive, rather, cyclical for we continually find ourselves behaving in a similar manner to our ancestors, and our enemies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;McCarthyism was&#160;a type of&#160;Spanish Inquisition. The destruction of Fallujah was&#160;not unlike the destruction of&#160;Carthage. There are many present day parallels to be drawn in relation to our unreasonable and violent behaviour of the past.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When observing history from these perspectives it becomes apparent that&#160;humanity (at this point in time)&#160;does not have the emotional maturity or common sense&#160;to use all that knowledge and technology in a responsible manner.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;History teaches us that human beings have a capacity for violence. Once upon a time we threw stones at each other, then someone created a spear, then a bow and arrow, then a bullet, then a bomb and so on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It soon becomes apparent that no matter the weapon, sooner or later that weapon gets into the hands of others, everybody. Pakistan and North Korea have The Bomb - so does Russia, India, China and Israel, one day so will Iran. And the nation that invented The Bomb has already used it on innocent civilians (twice), and like a spoilt brat threatens to do so again should the conditions require.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Based on the lessons of history it would appear that sooner of later we are going to have some pretty nasty stuff inflicted upon humanity by leaders who have not the emotional maturity or wisdom to lead the plebs from the dark&#160;ages into what could be a very exiting, peaceful and prosperous future - for everybody.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We homo sapiens may yet be the species to top&#160;ourselves in record time - and that dear friends will be the end of history, as far as homo sapiens are concerned.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Blessed are the rats and cockroaches, for they shall inherit the Earth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good post indeed Mr Griff. Thank you for taking the time.</p>
<p>Sadly too many people care not for history and the lessons to be leant.</p>
<p>History teaches us two very important&nbsp;things about humanity, at least in my mind.</p>
<p>History on hand chronicles the creative progress of humanity; the accumulation of knowledge and the dynamic ways in which knowledge has been used to create a more prosperous community. Knowledge&nbsp;has also given us the ability to create sophisticated weapons of unbelievable destructiveness. Knowledge and related sciences are linear and progressive; exponential in fact, and there is no turning back.</p>
<p>On the other hand history also gives us an insight into the collective behaviour of the masses and the psychology that motives such behaviour; in this respect we find that human behaviour is not so much progressive, rather, cyclical for we continually find ourselves behaving in a similar manner to our ancestors, and our enemies.</p>
<p>McCarthyism was&nbsp;a type of&nbsp;Spanish Inquisition. The destruction of Fallujah was&nbsp;not unlike the destruction of&nbsp;Carthage. There are many present day parallels to be drawn in relation to our unreasonable and violent behaviour of the past.</p>
<p>When observing history from these perspectives it becomes apparent that&nbsp;humanity (at this point in time)&nbsp;does not have the emotional maturity or common sense&nbsp;to use all that knowledge and technology in a responsible manner.&nbsp;</p>
<p>History teaches us that human beings have a capacity for violence. Once upon a time we threw stones at each other, then someone created a spear, then a bow and arrow, then a bullet, then a bomb and so on.</p>
<p>It soon becomes apparent that no matter the weapon, sooner or later that weapon gets into the hands of others, everybody. Pakistan and North Korea have The Bomb &#8211; so does Russia, India, China and Israel, one day so will Iran. And the nation that invented The Bomb has already used it on innocent civilians (twice), and like a spoilt brat threatens to do so again should the conditions require.</p>
<p>Based on the lessons of history it would appear that sooner of later we are going to have some pretty nasty stuff inflicted upon humanity by leaders who have not the emotional maturity or wisdom to lead the plebs from the dark&nbsp;ages into what could be a very exiting, peaceful and prosperous future &#8211; for everybody.</p>
<p>We homo sapiens may yet be the species to top&nbsp;ourselves in record time &#8211; and that dear friends will be the end of history, as far as homo sapiens are concerned.</p>
<p>Blessed are the rats and cockroaches, for they shall inherit the Earth.</p>
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