Haven’t we ALL wondered.. “why are they taking our country deeper, deeper, and deeper in to debt without ANY ability to pay the money back? What are those fools thinking?”                                         

The reason it’s related to the current thread is that the talking heads, for whom you seem to have little use, are using that frame of reference and others of similar principle for their diatribes against the left, the crimepols, healthcare reform, cap-and-tax, TARP gone wild, etc. They have the platform for much of what you and I would say, given the chance; i.e., the last I checked, we rant likewise here.

Except for the Republican thing, which is the only political roadblock in DC – and thus the only turn-to in the short run, our views seem pretty consistent with Beck’s, just to pick one of them. Google Beck and Cloward-Piven just for starters.

It’s become too trendy to support any of these talking heads publicly, but when the spotlight shuts down and the principles are sorted through, it’s theirs – and not Obama’s, Pelosi’s, Reid’s… you pick the politician – that you’ll find yourself leaning toward… seriously. And whatever their personal motives you think you discern, it’s the relative outcome I think we should ponder.

I say whatever they can do to thwart the current “Chains we can believe in”… that are headed our way, GO FOR IT!

Happy New Year 2010…! : )

Carl Nemo **==

As for the Cloward-Piven strategy, it seems to be wildly successful. Kind of how communism was introduced in Russia. A supposed “people’s movement” financed by Wall Street and London that used the people themselves as a springboard to totalitarian government.

Fox broadcast network is in dispute with Time Warner, not Fox cable. 

I didn’t say FOX cable, I was talking about TIME Warner removing FOX News from its cable offerings.

And my point about FOX having twice the viewership of the other news networks was related mostly to MSNBC, because – as the link shows – CNN competes well (#2) in some ratings, although FOX still leads ALL of them in market share. Do you get CNN?

I personally think the reason MSNBC falls short is the common perception that they are nothing more than shills for the White House. Ever listen to Chuck Todd? Boy, what a suck-up.

OK, calm down, just a Joke!

But on a related front, what do you think of the Cloward-Piven strategy?

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967

I recall MSNBC cancelling both Phil Donahue’s show and Jesse Ventura’s show during the Iraq propaganda campaign because they were opposed. They went so far as paying Ventura’s three year contract so he couldn’t go to another outlet.

I also recall Fox’s treatment of Ron Paul during the primaries. Now all of a sudden they’ve taken up his very causes? While their rhetoric may be attractive to many, I for one realize their game and refuse to play it.

They’re just herding people back to the Republicans, and I’m afraid they’re being quite successful. Glenn Beck has become some kind of cult hero with his false libertarian bent and bipolar rhetoric. It pains me to see the kind of following he’s attracted.

Sandy