Democrats reject military budget cuts

By ANDREW TAYLOR

Just hours after floating the idea of cutting $20 billion from President Bush’s $142 billion request for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan next year, Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad was overruled by fellow Democrats Thursday.

“It’s nothing that any of us are considering,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters.

Conrad’s trial balloon to cut war funding would have affected the budget year beginning Oct. 1 and was separate from the ongoing debate over Bush’s $100 billion request for immediate supplemental funding for Iraq and Afghanistan.

Even the Pentagon acknowledges that its $142 billion 2008 war funding request is simply a best guess of Iraq and Afghanistan costs, and Conrad’s proposal didn’t earn rebukes from Budget Committee Republicans.

But the speed with which it was rejected by his colleagues seemed to reflect Democrats’ sensitivity to any accusations of giving shortshrift treatment to funding for troops in battle.

“Our caucus feels strongly that we should go with the president’s numbers” on 2008 war costs, Conrad said. He spoke just hours after floating the idea of curbing Bush’s request for next year’s war budget.

The North Dakota Democrat said he was simply seeking to come up with the most accurate figures possible for war costs as he develops a Democratic budget blueprint for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1. The $20 billion cut was based on Congressional Budget Office estimates — instead of the administration’s February budget request — of Iraq and Afghanistan war costs.

The administration asked for $141.7 billion for fiscal 2008, but assumes only $50 billion for 2009 and no war funding after that.

CBO issued an estimate last month that forecasts 2008 costs of $120 billion for Pentagon operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and military aid for the armies of those two countries. The estimates would drop to $75 billion in 2009 and to $40 billion in 2010.

The CBO scenario assumes the number of troops deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan are reduced to 30,000 by 2010.

Even before restoring the proposed cut for 2008, Conrad’s budget plan assumed $85 billion more in war funds than Bush requested. That’s because Conrad included money for a continued troop presence over 2010-2012.

“We are going to provide actually more funding, because we think the president’s budget has understated the war costs over the five-year period,” Conrad had said at the time he broached the idea of slashing $20 billion from the budget request.

Conrad added that the congressional budget resolution he is drafting for debate later this month will provide Bush’s request for a $49 billion boost — to $481 billion — in the core Pentagon budget.

The annual congressional budget blueprint sets guidelines but is not binding, and the actual war budget will be set under a fiscal 2008 defense spending bill that will advance later this year.

Deputy Secretary of Defense Gordon England told the budget panel that the administration’s $142 billion 2008 war request is the Pentagon’s best estimate but that it “could go up or down” depending on how well the war goes.

The nearly four-year-old war in Iraq has thus far been financed primarily through emergency spending bills, to growing criticism from lawmakers who say it should be part of the long-term budget. Last month’s Bush budget submission represented the first time the administration offered a detailed war funding request so far in advance.

A separate issue is the looming $100 billion Iraq and Afghanistan funding bill, which continues to roil Capitol Hill.

Democrats are deeply divided over their Iraq strategy, but leaders such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., want the war funding bill to require that any troops deployed in Iraq be properly trained, equipped and rested.

The conditions could be waived, under their most recent plan, but President Bush would have to do so himself, and report to Congress each time.

House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said Republicans would vote against the war funding measure if it contained restrictions that inhibited Bush, but he said Republicans would have to see a detailed proposal before reaching any such decision.

“We will fight every effort that the Democrats attempt to put handcuffs on the president to stymie his ability to wage this war in Iraq and to win it,” Boehner said.

The comments marked something of a role revision for Republicans, who have savaged Democrats for proposing conditions on the Iraq spending measure, saying they were trying to cut off funding for the troops.

Copyright © 2007 The Associated Press

10 Responses to "Democrats reject military budget cuts"

  1. Scrngr  March 3, 2007 at 2:12 am

    I wonder how difficult it would be to change the drumbeat from ‘Support The Troops’ to ‘Support The Contractors’, since I’m told slightly over 50% of people doing ‘military business’ (yeah, I know, highly loosely defined) are contractors…

    Scrngr

  2. JimZ  March 2, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    BTW – Both my Congressman and Senator are Democrats.

  3. JimZ  March 2, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    I wrote to both my Congressman and my Senator yesterday about this. I told them if they choose to do nothing about ending the war, nor exercising power to check some of Bu$hCo, they’d better forget about getting votes in 2008. Dont’ stretch it out, then run on a platform in 2008 of ending the war when you didn’t do anything.

    I also told them to not underestimate the desire of the voters to impeach or severely neuter Bu$hCo.

    We’ll see what they do… (probably nothing)

  4. skyguy  March 2, 2007 at 2:09 pm

    Nancy Pe-Lousy and her vile crew have NO intention of doing anything to undo the illegal powers Bush was given by the Republican Congress. Contrary to what the media is reporting about ‘…the Congress is powerless to stop Bush’, Congress voted to give him the powers – they can sure as Hell vote to take them away.

    What more evidence do AMERICANS need to DEMAND THAT CONGRESS IMPEACH BUSH AND CHENEY? (Oh, sorry, that would mean that Congress would have to give up the majority of their own traitors in the process. How silly of me to expect morals and scrupples and the obeying of Oaths to “protect and defend the United States.”)

    THE EVIL AND THE INSANITY MUST BE STOPPED NOW!!!!!!

  5. Kent Shaw  March 2, 2007 at 1:35 pm

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    The Democrats are spineless. Either cut all funding for this illegal, immoral war for the wealthy corporations or forget about getting any vote from me. Yeah, yeah, THAT ought to hurt ‘em.

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  6. Joe Lawrence  March 2, 2007 at 4:17 pm

    Apparently the Democratic party has no ability to convince right-wing bloggers that insisting on proper training and equipment (read, armor) is actually ‘supporting the troops.’

    When will the nation as a whole realize that ‘Supporting the Troops,’ in Republikanspeak, is the new “Support the president no matter what?”

  7. Ric Carter  March 2, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    I seem to recall in the recent past, some brouhaha about the Pentagon being unable to account for some billions of dollars of funds. Why not a quid pro quo — the military budget is reduced by the amount unaccounted for? If DoD wants money, they should show where it all goes, eh? Or is this idea (accountability) too simple for Demos to grasp?

  8. Ray  March 2, 2007 at 6:18 pm

    Ric says pentagon couldn’t account for billions.

    Actually Ric, on Sept. 10 2001 The pentagon announced that they could not account for over a trillion dollars during the previous two or three year period. It just went missing. Thats like a convoy of eighteen wheelers loaded with hundred dollar bills disappearing. No biggie, they just ask for more

  9. gene  March 2, 2007 at 6:19 pm

    I honestly believe their is not more than 2 or 3 individuals in our whole governmnet thats worth the salt in their bodies. Its not the quality of idiots and assholes located in and around Wash D.C. (although that is impressive) its the f**king quanity. We have to be down to a few months before ALL this shit implodes. Want Mr and Mrs average usa be surprised.

  10. JimZ  March 3, 2007 at 1:23 am

    gene, the same thing can be said about U.S. corporation CEO’s. Those guys think they are worth a 1000 normal paying jobs and all I can see from them is a bunch of a-holes (the old monkeys in the tree model) that arn’t worth 1 paying job.

    For examples, look how well the U.S. big two carmakers (Ford, GM) are run these days. It’s a nationwide problem.

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