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	<title>Comments on: Maine voters reject gay marriage</title>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/20142/comment-page-1#comment-54939</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Substitute the word &quot;black&quot; for &quot;gay&quot; in any of the homophobe&#039;s arguments against gay marraige, and the sheer bigotry of their cause becomes painfully apparent.

What we are now seeing is a desperate, last-ditch attempt to salvage what’s left of the Church’s once complete (but now ever-shrinking) power to control people’s money, thoughts and lives.

And it is only a matter of time before such clearly systemically discriminatory attempts to deny people&#039;s constitutional rights are ultimately ruled UNconstitutional under a whole plethora of equal rights legislation that HAS been ruled to be constitutional.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Substitute the word &#8220;black&#8221; for &#8220;gay&#8221; in any of the homophobe&#8217;s arguments against gay marraige, and the sheer bigotry of their cause becomes painfully apparent.</p>
<p>What we are now seeing is a desperate, last-ditch attempt to salvage what’s left of the Church’s once complete (but now ever-shrinking) power to control people’s money, thoughts and lives.</p>
<p>And it is only a matter of time before such clearly systemically discriminatory attempts to deny people&#8217;s constitutional rights are ultimately ruled UNconstitutional under a whole plethora of equal rights legislation that HAS been ruled to be constitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Maas</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/20142/comment-page-1#comment-54996</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Maas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is &quot;the Church&quot;?
My church is not part of &quot;the Church&quot;.

http://uua.org/news/newssubmissions/152498.shtml
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is &#8220;the Church&#8221;?<br />
My church is not part of &#8220;the Church&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://uua.org/news/newssubmissions/152498.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://uua.org/news/newssubmissions/152498.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: almandine</title>
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		<dc:creator>almandine</dc:creator>
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		<description>THE CHURCH is that IDEA that those with lesser political mojo rail against. Much like THE GOVT.  

SEE? 

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.4693/pub_detail.asp </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE CHURCH is that IDEA that those with lesser political mojo rail against. Much like THE GOVT.  </p>
<p>SEE? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.4693/pub_detail.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.4693/pub_detail.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/20142/comment-page-1#comment-55002</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then, Jim, how come &quot;your church&quot; is still referred to as a &quot;church&quot;?

I&#039;ll agree that Universalism is probably one of the LEAST invasive and controlling of all religions.  

But then again, it is STILL considered a religious institution with an elected or appointed hierarchy along with a set of shared &quot;beliefs&quot; and &quot;values&quot;, all of which still constitute a moral control mechanism of sorts that guide what people are supposed to believe.  

If not, when why bother joining?

The problem is that FULL separation of &quot;the State&quot; from &quot;the Church&quot; has yet to happen in most places, including the United States of America.




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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then, Jim, how come &#8220;your church&#8221; is still referred to as a &#8220;church&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree that Universalism is probably one of the LEAST invasive and controlling of all religions.  </p>
<p>But then again, it is STILL considered a religious institution with an elected or appointed hierarchy along with a set of shared &#8220;beliefs&#8221; and &#8220;values&#8221;, all of which still constitute a moral control mechanism of sorts that guide what people are supposed to believe.  </p>
<p>If not, when why bother joining?</p>
<p>The problem is that FULL separation of &#8220;the State&#8221; from &#8220;the Church&#8221; has yet to happen in most places, including the United States of America.</p>
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		<title>By: almandine</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/20142/comment-page-1#comment-55010</link>
		<dc:creator>almandine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve tried and tried and still can&#039;t find that &quot;eparation&quot; clause. The only thing I can find is that the GOVT can&#039;t have or support or deny one religion over another. 

Funny, that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried and tried and still can&#8217;t find that &#8220;eparation&#8221; clause. The only thing I can find is that the GOVT can&#8217;t have or support or deny one religion over another. </p>
<p>Funny, that.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/20142/comment-page-1#comment-55028</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.

But, then again, where does it say that, based SOLELY on one&#039;s sexual preferences, the government can arbitrarily withhold fundamental rights to &quot;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness&quot; that it routinely grants to ALL other citizens? Seems rather discriminatory don&#039;t you think?

The bottom line here is that the homophobes are LOSING these battles in the courts.  That&#039;s because, what they are attempting to do in law is being exposed as baseless hypocritical rubbish that flies directly in the face of other binding clauses of both federal and state constitutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>But, then again, where does it say that, based SOLELY on one&#8217;s sexual preferences, the government can arbitrarily withhold fundamental rights to &#8220;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness&#8221; that it routinely grants to ALL other citizens? Seems rather discriminatory don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>The bottom line here is that the homophobes are LOSING these battles in the courts.  That&#8217;s because, what they are attempting to do in law is being exposed as baseless hypocritical rubbish that flies directly in the face of other binding clauses of both federal and state constitutions.</p>
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		<title>By: almandine</title>
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		<dc:creator>almandine</dc:creator>
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		<description>I would suggest that govt withholding life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness is more universal than arbitrary. As for homosexual marriage? Kinda self-defeating in its own right. But, we&#039;ve all argued this thread before.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest that govt withholding life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness is more universal than arbitrary. As for homosexual marriage? Kinda self-defeating in its own right. But, we&#8217;ve all argued this thread before.</p>
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