Do we want federal financing for our elections?


When we file for our income taxes will we then be taxed for the average donation for the locals and federal elections? Or will we find an election tax on our property taxes? Am I the only one who believes that my donating money to candidates is my right of free speech?

If I want qualified candidates and a qualified well read voter base, I might be better off insisting that our Civics classes in school actually teach about the U.S. Constitution. I would also want some kind of training of critical thinking and survival skills.

The Democrats have liberal social ideals and want the government to leave the people alone. The Republican Conservatives want the heavy hand of government to direct the social lives of all Americans. This leaves the RNC and DNC in charge of raising funds for their candidates. In 2000 and 2004 the votes were so equal in numbers that many feel Bush did not win in either race. So here we are with both parties trying to get to the independent voters and those 7 million Republicans who walked out of the party in 1992. Our parties are not working on finding the most qualified candidates but working for the ones who are willing to bow down to any number of people and handing them promises and hand outs. Winning takes the lead over political morals.

If anyone believes that handing the financing for elections over to the federal government will equalize anything, think again. Even during the television debates the laws point to just two parties and third parties are not welcomed. The main problem is that we no longer have two points of view to vote for or against. We have people for Bush and those against Bush. This is silly!

The only thing I want from the Federal government is to guarantee that they stay out of the campaigns and work on honest elections with a paper trail. It is up to the voters to know exactly what their candidates stand for and have them look in the eyes of the camera and pledge their allegiance to support the Constitution. If they can come up with an agenda I will listen to it.

We have an opportunity here at CapitolHillBlue to get involved in the CAMPAIGN FOR OUR AMERICA found on the Reader Rant and I’m hoping that we can come up with an agenda for both parties to follow. We need to cut some rules about whether we want Federal Laws for elections or State Laws. We need to debate how our borders are protected especially now that we are at war with___________(fill in the blank.)

If we can put together a list of our desires and request our candidates to join us and explain how they would handle subjects such as campaign financing, the rules on how to declare wars and why they feel our Constitution should contain prohibitions on our personal lives. We need to know if

America will continue to police the rest of the world even when it means we make terrible enemies.

I regret that I have so little faith in the American government but I am only one voice here and I trust the posters and bloggers on this site so let’s open up our discussions.

This could expand CHB into one of the largest think tanks on the internet. I have complete faith in Doug Thompson do run it as well as anyone could. I simply ask all of you to think carefully before asking the Federal Government to make any changes in our Campaign Finance Laws. Can we even trust them to provide exposure from who is funding which candidate?

(Sandy Price began her political activism after finally getting cable in her area of the central California coast. She watched two hours of C-SPAN and realized she needed to get involved immediately. That was in 1993 and once she found the internet, it was just the beginning. She is now retired from working as a technical writer and costume designer and lives in Sun City, AZ.)


  1. pastor agnostic

    The power of lobbyists grew because we allowed it to. This erosion of our political system was predicted, in part, by the three article system the founding fathers created. what is truly striking is the difference over time.

    in the 1770s, the top elite, the creme dela creme, the educated, the literate, the land owners, the Bush-Wa-Zee – these were the folks that had the wherewithall, the vision and the creativity to create what we know as the USA. And they meant it for all people, but for the sun-tanned 3/5s folks who ensured that cotton would be king.

    Today, any sign of the elites’ trying to support a broad-base, democratic-styled, popularist agenda, is so small as to be less visible than a black-painted mosquito, thrown into an endles abyss, with no moon or starlight, or other light source within 100 miles.

  2. Scrngr

    Unfortunately, the best qualifications for election are not the same as the best qualifications for governing.


    PS – Is the solution setting up a licensing bureau for politicians, akin to the ADA or the Bar Association? No license, no practice… S.

  3. Ray

    The first thing needed is to eliminate the graft. No lobby. No corporate bribes and kickbacks. Limit campaign funds to citizens only and cap that at a thousand dollars maximum per donor.

    Truth is I doubt there will ever be any honor and honesty in government. It is just too far corrupted and sick. Rotten from within, void of any integrity, rampant in excess, and drunk with power.

  4. Ray, I look at lobbying in a different light. In the early days lobbyists kept an eye on the congress and made certain that all their efforts were done equally so that no corporation was favored over another. Now the corporations are using the lobbyists to pay off the congress to vote their way. Where is the crime in this?

    I believe it is criminal for the Congress to take the money and change their votes for or against any corporation. The corruption is now on the backs of the Congress and they should be thrown out of office when they accept bribes.

    The campaign donations from the citizens is only $2500. But many lobbyists put the wives of the Congressmen on payroll. If they are caught their congressmen should be fired immediately. What’s missing is the enforcement. It would be impossible to stop bribes as we have seen congressmen buying homes for one tenth of the cost and on paper it looks legal. I want an open discussion with any congressmen in my district to guarantee they will take no bribes of any kind from any corporation or religous group. We must not be shy as they are getting away with abusing the system.

    I’m hoping we can make a difference in our debates about what we will demand from our candidates.

    I have a large black storm hovering over my house and it is noisy. I’m going off line and will see you great guys in the morning.

  5. Ray

    Thanks Sandy. That is what I was (poorly) trying to express. But how can we insure that congress would be honest when temptation is offered daily as a normal course of business? Maybe that is something that can never be insured simply due to human falicy. (greed). It is like politicians seem to be born with two mouths, one on each side of thier faces. They say one thing to get votes, but then say something else when earning the bribes. The article that Susan mentioned in another thread about Lockheeds involvement is shocking. It seems most of pnac authors and signatores have worked or do work for Lockheed and the companies bottom line is all dependent on our war policy. Lockheed would have gone under had we not invaded Iraq. One of Bushes paybacks. That article in Playboy that Susan provided the link to, is quite revealing in real time sense.

  6. It is terrible that greed seems to be running not only our elected officials but just about everybody. Even the voters have lost interst in the obvious dishonesty in their own party members. We have high cheating rates in the schools we have Board of Directors of major corporations helping themselves to the company investments.

    Maybe it has always been like this but for some reason I didn’t realize it for years. I spent many years reading about how our government runs and it seemed to work so well with what seemed like a minimum of graft. I remember seeing how well the balance of the 3 government divisions worked under the two party system.

    The respect for American sovereignty seemed to keep bad influences from groups like the PNAC out of our leadership but this desire for American leadership in the one world order has driven our American values out. I believe it drove out the “America first” attitude and our global desire for power tore our ethics and values out.

    I remember when America was noted for support for individual freedoms and just looking over the Bill of Rights made us a one of a kind nation. I figured it was the influence of the Christian Coalition that wanted all laws to come from the church and would remove our individuality from the nation. I spent a lot of time on Conservative sites and was castigated when I even mentioned individual freedoms. It became the great liberal attitude and I had better get with the program that it was all going to be changed. The Constitution would have an Amendment filled with prohibitions that would bring all Americans in line with Christian Doctrines.

    It wasn’t that my life was filled with sins but these Conservatives wanted to know that if any one of us sinned there would be federal prison to deal with it.

    I believe the entire Bush Administration want this new moral legislation to keep their Christian voters behind them. It made no sense to me at all.

    I hope that this Lockheed mess is investigated for the charges. Lockheed was a great supporter of WW2 and did much to help us win the war. I had many friends to worked at the Burbank facility and took pride in their accomplishments.

    Will we ever be able to clean out this mess from our government or will we be buried forever under the corruption?

  7. Judy

    Personal campaign donations (money sent by private citizens) are often REPAID to the donor by covert methods from corporations and lobbies. I am for lobbies and corporations being outlawed and for Federal funding ALL prime Presidential canidates that qualify (based on those recieving highest % of votes in their states.) There would be

    a level playing field for all who were to run for the Presidency..any and all political parties could qualify. The qualifications for recieving federal funding to the canidates would have to be carefully and fairly written by those far more intelligent than myself, but if done properly and by strictly enforcing the rules set in place (NO further private funds allowed to be recieved by any of the canidates) federal funding for presidential canidates could work and ultimatley save us billions I the long run

  8. Judy the only control over these funds beging given to the candidates is whether they are tax deductible or not. When I find a candidate that I think would be an asset to our government I often send funds to their local office to help start them up. I do not add these checks to my IRS forms. I have also sent stamps and envelopes over to the campaign office to help them handle the correspondence. Are you say that I should not be allowed to do this?

    I cannot agree with you that the federal government has anyone more intelligent than you or me. But it is the difference of opinions that makes this country great! Thank you for your input.

  9. Joe Lawrence

    Baby steps are needed to even HOPE to clean up the mess our political processes have become.

    First, let’s FORCE our respective imcumbents to pass actual reform, and bar ANY incumbent from receiving ANYTHING of value, regardless of the dollar value, fromANYONE, and let them survive on their salaries.

    Let that stew for a year or so, then take whatever the next logical step appears to be. The journey of a thousand miles……..

  10. Joe, I would rather ask our new candidates and incumbants to clean up the process if they want to have any kind of real future in our government. If we set the standards very high they only have to reach for the gold ring.