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		<title>By: PlacitasRoy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was surprised to see Obama&#039;s popularity has held pretty steady among the base among Dems. I too would have though there would have been a big drop there. 

Public Policy Polling went into the polls and found he is down:  
5 points among conservative Repug, 
5 points among conservative indies, 
7 points among moderate independents - from 64% to 57%.
15 points among conservative indies - from 31% - 16% 

Full discussion at: http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/09/with-all-this-talk-of-barack-obamas.html </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised to see Obama&#8217;s popularity has held pretty steady among the base among Dems. I too would have though there would have been a big drop there. </p>
<p>Public Policy Polling went into the polls and found he is down:<br />
5 points among conservative Repug,<br />
5 points among conservative indies,<br />
7 points among moderate independents &#8211; from 64% to 57%.<br />
15 points among conservative indies &#8211; from 31% &#8211; 16% </p>
<p>Full discussion at: <a href="http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/09/with-all-this-talk-of-barack-obamas.html" rel="nofollow">http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/09/with-all-this-talk-of-barack-obamas.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: rbw152</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it&#039;s a no-brainer really.

After all, why would so many people NOT be racist when they voted for him and then suddenly turn racist when he becomes prez? It doesn&#039;t make sense. Racists wouldn&#039;t have voted for him in the first place - unless their dislike for Bush was more intense than their in-built racist feelings. Which could happen I suppose....

Anyway, it&#039;s pretty much irrelevant because the main reason most people voted for Obama was because he wasn&#039;t Bush and wasn&#039;t Republican. Plus, of course, the people yet again actually believed a politician&#039;s pre-election promises - which as we all know are no more sincere than a teenage boy telling the girl he has the hots for that he loves her! When will we learn? The lust for power is as powerful as sexual lust but with far more dangerous results. And politicians want that power so much.

But there is another theory, and that is that Obama actually meant everything he said with the utmost sincerity - but then he was &#039;got at&#039; by shadowy &#039;others&#039; after he got in to power. And right now, that&#039;s what I think happened...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it&#8217;s a no-brainer really.</p>
<p>After all, why would so many people NOT be racist when they voted for him and then suddenly turn racist when he becomes prez? It doesn&#8217;t make sense. Racists wouldn&#8217;t have voted for him in the first place &#8211; unless their dislike for Bush was more intense than their in-built racist feelings. Which could happen I suppose&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s pretty much irrelevant because the main reason most people voted for Obama was because he wasn&#8217;t Bush and wasn&#8217;t Republican. Plus, of course, the people yet again actually believed a politician&#8217;s pre-election promises &#8211; which as we all know are no more sincere than a teenage boy telling the girl he has the hots for that he loves her! When will we learn? The lust for power is as powerful as sexual lust but with far more dangerous results. And politicians want that power so much.</p>
<p>But there is another theory, and that is that Obama actually meant everything he said with the utmost sincerity &#8211; but then he was &#8216;got at&#8217; by shadowy &#8216;others&#8217; after he got in to power. And right now, that&#8217;s what I think happened&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AustinRanter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody think that there are more racists now than prior to the election of Obama? 

Or is the racial climate created by media to push reader and viewership numbers higher? I would have to assume that media, in all forms, have to deal with economic setbacks like many other industry...and this is a period where they&#039;re not collecting billions from political ads.

Or is it possible that many who voted for Obama are simply pissed because he didn&#039;t turn out to be the second coming of Jesus and perform miracles and/or lack of meeting election promises such as cleaning up the mess that&#039;s been created the relationship between our government by special interest? 

One Observation:

The odd thing is...most of Obama&#039;s campaign promises were made over the course of nearly two years prior to the crash of the financial and market institutions. There were a completely different set of social issues that existed up until around the date of the Democratic Convention. So, the Jesus like expectations by the voters turned out to be not enough...Obama needed to have even more power than Jesus to begin to take on issues that hit just 3 or less months prior to election day. And then comes the witnessing of his performance and methods of dealing with it all. He already had over 60 million voters who opposed him being elected...so add all of the other potential burdens...and I think the ante of staying in the game went up a hundred fold. So, the overall appearance seems to be that his abilities can&#039;t override the electorate and political oppositions...and the super serious social issues at the same time.

Or is it possible that with the state of our financial and economic chaos that&#039;s occurred over the past year that any person in the presidency would be under incredible pressure and criticism by angry citizens that aren&#039;t usually as vocal or visible when social issues are less crtical? There&#039;s serious situations going on across the nation with millions who have found themselves insolvent in a matter of months and are forced to make drastic lifestyle changes.

Or could it be all of the above?

I believe that if McCain were president, in my opinion...he&#039;d be shutdown, incapable of managing the humongous challenges imposed on a sitting president over the past year. Obama is in conflict with his own party members, which a fair number are battling against his attempts to create or implement his policies. Can you imagine what it would be like for a Republican president with the house and senate majorities as they exist today? What would be the climate for McCain. Would he be considered a dribbling, babbling geriatric president who is seen to be mentally unfit, and who needs to be in a nursing home? My guess would be, &quot;yes&quot;.

When it comes to politics, there&#039;s all types of bigots who rear their ugly heads and attempt to make life miserable for any elected official, regardless of their post, performance, or public persona.

I sure as hell wouldn&#039;t want the job of president. Egos are usually really huge with those who seek the presidency, but in the November 2008 election, I wonder how many that ran and failed to win the presidency was elated given the circumstances. _________________________
SUPPORT A GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY THE PEOPLE

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody think that there are more racists now than prior to the election of Obama? </p>
<p>Or is the racial climate created by media to push reader and viewership numbers higher? I would have to assume that media, in all forms, have to deal with economic setbacks like many other industry&#8230;and this is a period where they&#8217;re not collecting billions from political ads.</p>
<p>Or is it possible that many who voted for Obama are simply pissed because he didn&#8217;t turn out to be the second coming of Jesus and perform miracles and/or lack of meeting election promises such as cleaning up the mess that&#8217;s been created the relationship between our government by special interest? </p>
<p>One Observation:</p>
<p>The odd thing is&#8230;most of Obama&#8217;s campaign promises were made over the course of nearly two years prior to the crash of the financial and market institutions. There were a completely different set of social issues that existed up until around the date of the Democratic Convention. So, the Jesus like expectations by the voters turned out to be not enough&#8230;Obama needed to have even more power than Jesus to begin to take on issues that hit just 3 or less months prior to election day. And then comes the witnessing of his performance and methods of dealing with it all. He already had over 60 million voters who opposed him being elected&#8230;so add all of the other potential burdens&#8230;and I think the ante of staying in the game went up a hundred fold. So, the overall appearance seems to be that his abilities can&#8217;t override the electorate and political oppositions&#8230;and the super serious social issues at the same time.</p>
<p>Or is it possible that with the state of our financial and economic chaos that&#8217;s occurred over the past year that any person in the presidency would be under incredible pressure and criticism by angry citizens that aren&#8217;t usually as vocal or visible when social issues are less crtical? There&#8217;s serious situations going on across the nation with millions who have found themselves insolvent in a matter of months and are forced to make drastic lifestyle changes.</p>
<p>Or could it be all of the above?</p>
<p>I believe that if McCain were president, in my opinion&#8230;he&#8217;d be shutdown, incapable of managing the humongous challenges imposed on a sitting president over the past year. Obama is in conflict with his own party members, which a fair number are battling against his attempts to create or implement his policies. Can you imagine what it would be like for a Republican president with the house and senate majorities as they exist today? What would be the climate for McCain. Would he be considered a dribbling, babbling geriatric president who is seen to be mentally unfit, and who needs to be in a nursing home? My guess would be, &#8220;yes&#8221;.</p>
<p>When it comes to politics, there&#8217;s all types of bigots who rear their ugly heads and attempt to make life miserable for any elected official, regardless of their post, performance, or public persona.</p>
<p>I sure as hell wouldn&#8217;t want the job of president. Egos are usually really huge with those who seek the presidency, but in the November 2008 election, I wonder how many that ran and failed to win the presidency was elated given the circumstances. _________________________<br />
SUPPORT A GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY THE PEOPLE</p>
<p>Traveling At the Speed of Life</p>
<p>Thanks Yall &#8211; Gregg</p>
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		<title>By: barak</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/19608/comment-page-1#comment-53369</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked Gregg&#039;s comment more than the article itself. It is easy to call names, point out failures, emphasize deficiencies. But when the truth be told, the buck really does stop at that famous oddly shaped office in the gleaming White House on a soft green patch of Washington, DC.

I never cared for Obama, and I found myself voting for what I considered the lesser of two evils as I have in every Presidential Election since JFK. I voted for JFK, my only &quot;For&quot; vote. All the others were against the candidate I did not like, not for his opponent. How sad that sounds until you consider 1. I did vote; 2. I could vote; 3. At times my single vote really made a difference; 4. There were many, many millions of Americans who also went to the polling places and freely and safely cast a vote for President of this Great Country.

We are so lucky. Sure we need universal health care. No person should be asked to decide whether they get an operation or lose their house to pay for it. We owe it to ourselves to take care of US, We The People. Not Them the Congressmen. It is time to clean house.............and to clean Senate as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked Gregg&#8217;s comment more than the article itself. It is easy to call names, point out failures, emphasize deficiencies. But when the truth be told, the buck really does stop at that famous oddly shaped office in the gleaming White House on a soft green patch of Washington, DC.</p>
<p>I never cared for Obama, and I found myself voting for what I considered the lesser of two evils as I have in every Presidential Election since JFK. I voted for JFK, my only &#8220;For&#8221; vote. All the others were against the candidate I did not like, not for his opponent. How sad that sounds until you consider 1. I did vote; 2. I could vote; 3. At times my single vote really made a difference; 4. There were many, many millions of Americans who also went to the polling places and freely and safely cast a vote for President of this Great Country.</p>
<p>We are so lucky. Sure we need universal health care. No person should be asked to decide whether they get an operation or lose their house to pay for it. We owe it to ourselves to take care of US, We The People. Not Them the Congressmen. It is time to clean house&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and to clean Senate as well.</p>
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		<title>By: PlacitasRoy</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/19608/comment-page-1#comment-53370</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Does anybody think that there are more racists now than prior to the election of Obama?&quot; I don&#039;t. I do think the racists feel more empowered to express their hate. The Fox freaks and hate radio has ratcheted up  the volume, the frequency, and vileness. 

When the first few town halls takeovers were successful and the vile offense signs were televised around the country, the KKKlowns were empowered. 

I also think Thompson misinterprets the poll numbers. As Public Policy Polling pointed out a couple of weeks ago, while he&#039;s down slightly moderate independents - from 64% to 57%, the big drop came  from the &#039;Conservative Indies&#039; (down from 31 to 16) and the &#039;Conservative Repugs (down from 10 to 5) I have no doubt the visible racists come from the conservative Indies &amp; Repugs. http://tinyurl.com/PPPtabs 

While not all of the President&#039;s opponents are racists, I agree with President Carter: “I think an OVERWHELMING PORTION of the INTENSELY DEMONSTRATED ANIMOSITY toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man...&quot; And there damn sure “is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does anybody think that there are more racists now than prior to the election of Obama?&#8221; I don&#8217;t. I do think the racists feel more empowered to express their hate. The Fox freaks and hate radio has ratcheted up  the volume, the frequency, and vileness. </p>
<p>When the first few town halls takeovers were successful and the vile offense signs were televised around the country, the KKKlowns were empowered. </p>
<p>I also think Thompson misinterprets the poll numbers. As Public Policy Polling pointed out a couple of weeks ago, while he&#8217;s down slightly moderate independents &#8211; from 64% to 57%, the big drop came  from the &#8216;Conservative Indies&#8217; (down from 31 to 16) and the &#8216;Conservative Repugs (down from 10 to 5) I have no doubt the visible racists come from the conservative Indies &#038; Repugs. <a href="http://tinyurl.com/PPPtabs" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/PPPtabs</a> </p>
<p>While not all of the President&#8217;s opponents are racists, I agree with President Carter: “I think an OVERWHELMING PORTION of the INTENSELY DEMONSTRATED ANIMOSITY toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man&#8230;&#8221; And there damn sure “is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.”</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Fuller</title>
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		<description>The reason why I voted for Barack Obama is because I wanted TRUE CHANGE in my government.  Feeling that Barack was young and energetic and could ACTUALLY change the course of our nation was the reason why I voted for Barack.

...it wasn&#039;t because Barack WASN&#039;T McCain or Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why I voted for Barack Obama is because I wanted TRUE CHANGE in my government.  Feeling that Barack was young and energetic and could ACTUALLY change the course of our nation was the reason why I voted for Barack.</p>
<p>&#8230;it wasn&#8217;t because Barack WASN&#8217;T McCain or Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: bjiller</title>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s not necessarily racism to call a liar a liar.

It&#039;s just more rank hypocrisy by the GOP partisans.  Back when idiot Bush was President, we were all supposed to &quot;respect the office, not the man.&quot;  Now, that the Democrat holds the office, it&#039;s fine to interrupt a Presidential address to Congress, compare our President to Hitler, and bring guns to Presidential speeches while wearing shirts quoting Jefferson&#039;s &quot;blood of tyrants&quot; line.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s not necessarily racism to call a liar a liar.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just more rank hypocrisy by the GOP partisans.  Back when idiot Bush was President, we were all supposed to &#8220;respect the office, not the man.&#8221;  Now, that the Democrat holds the office, it&#8217;s fine to interrupt a Presidential address to Congress, compare our President to Hitler, and bring guns to Presidential speeches while wearing shirts quoting Jefferson&#8217;s &#8220;blood of tyrants&#8221; line.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Price</title>
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		<description>Right again Rick!  He was the lesser of two evils and it had nothing to do with his color.  The Republican Party has embarrassed many of us over the last 8 years and McCain/Palin did nothing to overcome the reputation of stupidity in their party.  

I believe Obama&#039;s actions may have proven beyond any doubt that color and partisanship had nothing to do with our problems.  We are simply on the wrong track.  Obama made some bad choices and he will correct his agenda.....I hope

Sandy

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right again Rick!  He was the lesser of two evils and it had nothing to do with his color.  The Republican Party has embarrassed many of us over the last 8 years and McCain/Palin did nothing to overcome the reputation of stupidity in their party.  </p>
<p>I believe Obama&#8217;s actions may have proven beyond any doubt that color and partisanship had nothing to do with our problems.  We are simply on the wrong track.  Obama made some bad choices and he will correct his agenda&#8230;..I hope</p>
<p>Sandy</p>
<p>NO ONE SHOULD EVER YELL &#8216;LIAR&#8217; IN A CROWDED ROOM</p>
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		<title>By: JudyB</title>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if Wilson is a racist but what he did was wrong!  Gregg&#039;s post is excellent and covers all the basis.   I posted here several times, during the two years BEFORE the &#039;08 election that no matter who the next President would be, they would not and could not solve all of the problems.  The problems created during the Bush/Cheney reign were so enormous and rampant, that it would take several more elections and many administrations to clean up the messes being left behind. (the financial melt down included though hidden at the time)
Well folks, here we are now, 10 months after the &#039;08 elections dealing with the messes the way we do best
..furious with the new president and seemingly surprised that he had no magic wand to wave. 
All of you who think you have all the answers, let me just say...&quot;You don&#039;t&quot;  nor,do you know all the problems.   I don&#039;t know if Obama will turn out to have been a good president, that will take years to determine.  What I do know is that there is no one who has a magic wand...and in the end, they too would have only thoughts, hopes, and promises and a disillusioned, furious public to deal with!  

Things to ponder....

&quot;You can&#039;t sprint your way through a marathon and expect to finish the race&quot;

&quot;Rome wasn&#039;t built in a day&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if Wilson is a racist but what he did was wrong!  Gregg&#8217;s post is excellent and covers all the basis.   I posted here several times, during the two years BEFORE the &#8217;08 election that no matter who the next President would be, they would not and could not solve all of the problems.  The problems created during the Bush/Cheney reign were so enormous and rampant, that it would take several more elections and many administrations to clean up the messes being left behind. (the financial melt down included though hidden at the time)<br />
Well folks, here we are now, 10 months after the &#8217;08 elections dealing with the messes the way we do best<br />
..furious with the new president and seemingly surprised that he had no magic wand to wave.<br />
All of you who think you have all the answers, let me just say&#8230;&#8221;You don&#8217;t&#8221;  nor,do you know all the problems.   I don&#8217;t know if Obama will turn out to have been a good president, that will take years to determine.  What I do know is that there is no one who has a magic wand&#8230;and in the end, they too would have only thoughts, hopes, and promises and a disillusioned, furious public to deal with!  </p>
<p>Things to ponder&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t sprint your way through a marathon and expect to finish the race&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Rome wasn&#8217;t built in a day&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Price</title>
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		<description>Nice post Judy.  This takeover by one party over the other reminded me of the CERN accelerator where two atoms hit and we had no idea if we would all end up in a black hole.  No compromise has been seen between either side and anything done by one side would never be accepted by t&#039;other.  President Obama has shown a remarkable leadership and the GOP is fading fast.  I am thrilled to be able to discuss this mess at CHB where intelligence rules the waves.

Sandy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Judy.  This takeover by one party over the other reminded me of the CERN accelerator where two atoms hit and we had no idea if we would all end up in a black hole.  No compromise has been seen between either side and anything done by one side would never be accepted by t&#8217;other.  President Obama has shown a remarkable leadership and the GOP is fading fast.  I am thrilled to be able to discuss this mess at CHB where intelligence rules the waves.</p>
<p>Sandy</p>
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