Is God big enough?

The overwhelming majority of Americans believe in God, the capitalized version; God Almighty, Jehova, Yahwey, Allah, or any variation on the Abrahamic names for the ultimate power. There are divisions about exactly what God is and how God feels about and is inclined in favor or against a long list of activities and actions. These divisions are in urgent need of reconciliaition in order to deal with the era of global interdependency.  Is the God of all these diverse interpretations big enough to deal with it?

Now it could be that is the wrong question because if God is big enough to want humans to undergo a few purgings then so be it. True, the Abrahamic God has a substantial record of pestilence, revenge, and slaughter so there is always the possibility that we have it coming to us — pick your reason.

It seems to me that is a cop out position, however, if one also claims personal responsibility. Wouldn’t the ultimate personal responsiblity be not screwing up so much that God wants to smack us across the head? So it seems having as an "out" God’s punishment may make it easier to avoid changes that are needed.

It may be that we need God to either change or simply make clear to all who call your name that the world is not a zero sum game. So many who are believers insist it is in fact a zero sum existence — there are winners and losers and "my God is truer than your god."

Robert Wright argues in The Evolution of God that the concept of God has evolved over the eons, just as all of existence has evolved. He carefully traces this process often making the case for unconventional understandings.

What called out to me from his works is that we need to help God reveal to us the possibility that in all aspects we can live in a world where the existence of winners does not mean there are losers.

It takes a great God to create that world.  It would call on us to grow up to the point we drop our ways that do not fit in that world, those that are intolerant, selfish, partisan, sectarian and divisive ways.

In one community it is the prayer to have one’s character defects lifted by a higher power. To those of faith it may be God’s grace; there are so many ways that can be expressed and absorbed. It is the life work of many of us.

This could be called a humble way of being, as one really has to look upon differences as natural, not something having the power to exalt one over another. For one person, one nation, one people to honor and appreciate rather than cause hatred and discord.

Pollyanna it may be. But I cannot even consider believing in any understanding of God this calls for less.  God has evolved. "There ain’t gonna be war no more."

That is what god told me anyway.


  1. Phil Hoskins

    Of course the issue is not whether there is a God, but rather is your god big enough for the needs of today.  Is God big enough to not need to seek ill for those who do not believe the same as you?


    Is god gracious enough to include everyone without preconditions, to make sure that no one, even non-believers and infidels to win all the time?

    Phil Hoskins

  2. pinklaptop02

    It’s hard for me not to believe in a higher power when I look at simple logic such as the sun following its same pattern rising in the morning and going down at night, clouds moving and gathering beyond my control and understanding to water parched ground, animals that are incomparable in knowledge to a human feeding their young ones everyday, spiders constructing beautifully complex strong webs with precision, the beautiful colorations and detailed placement of color on a lion to help him blend with his environment, and so on.

    Is all of this done by accident or is it a result of years and years of environmental change? Who changed it? If you say evolution then you definitely can’t tell me that a Ford model T constructed in the early 1900’s if left alone would’ve evolved into a 2010 Ford Mustang without man’s intervention. No, the manufacturer has to improve on the model T to become the Ford Mustang. If this is the case, then there has to be a manufacturer of nature and humans. It’s not that hard…simple!

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  3. bogofree

    I’m an atheist and have been for about as long as I can remember. Being an atheist has certain liabilities as I have seen first hand the comfort of belief can bring those in need. I do not have that option. Most folks I know are believers and a few are what you may classify a bit over the top. They finally have the message that I will be exceedingly happy for them to pray for me but I will not pray with them.

    Now I also do have a significant problem with some atheists who are just as far over the top as those zealots I have mentioned above and it is a matter of manners. I find nothing wrong with respecting public religious ceremony nor to I have a problem with saying my own form of Grace when asked to do so. I can go to church and go through the required motions without saying a prayer or vowing any type of allegiance to a deity. Matter of respected those in whose territory you are residing in. I have no problem realizing that a significant part of our history and culture is tied to religious beliefs and so be it. The lines have been fairly well described by the SCOTUS. Live with it.

    I am not here to toss around snarky remarks or to make profound statements extracted from religious and non religious text. I do think there is a certain element that feels God is on their side – well that is their choice and if they wish to invoke her name to attempt to cement a point of view it will also tell you something about them. Tread with caution.

  4. bryan mcclellan

    Therein lies, a spiritual argument of class,
    or most prominently,
    the lack of affiliation.

    If a man lives in the woods of explanation for empathy’s sake, man only derives of himself. That he must face.

    Islands of community, little help.
    ..A hand extended is either in your heart or not.

    …The few, see the fewness of that heart and hand,
    as their tool.

  5. numan

    It is the Last Judgment. God stands before the Pearly Gates dividing the people into two groups. To the group on His right He says, “Oh, My true and faithful Atheists, well done! I created the world without any evidence of My existence; indeed, all the evidence led in the opposite direction! I gave mankind the god-like power of reason, and you, noble atheists, used that gift properly and courageously! The false promises of religion did not mislead you; you resisted the lure of fables backed by authority; childish hopes of comfort and salvation did not deter you from uncompromisingly following the path of reason, as you saw it, to its final conclusions. Even ridicule,
    discrimination and persecution did not daunt you; the talents which I gave you, you used and increased; for your intelligence and courage, for your ability to reject folly and seek wisdom —Welcome! Enter into Eternal Glory!”

    Then God turns to the group on His left and says, “You religious fools! You infantile cowards! Through fear you refused to grow up and become adults. You clung to fables and just-so stories. You were unwilling to exercise the intelligence which I gave you as my most priceless gift! No absurdity was too great, no fairy tale too outrageous, provided it gave you childish comfort and the vain hope that no matter what crimes you committed, some Outside Power would reach down and save your unworthy butts! You have wasted and corrupted My gifts! My universe has no place for such as you; I reject you utterly! Into the lake of Eternal Fire with you, and be consumed!

  6. oceanika

    How do you know you’re God?

    Simple. When I pray to Him, I find I am talking to myself.

    Peter O’Toole, “The Ruling Class” – Keep Films, 1972

  7. AustinRanter

    So while god seeks to know him(her)(it)self by becoming a thing…through creation. It seems to me that people of the planet earth better devise more effective ways of dealing with their mutual dependence in a much more civil way.

    In other words, humankind best snap out of the notion that something else outside of our “natural existence” be should responsible for providing our needs, managing our all of the elements necessary to co-existence.

    If we can all see that spirituality is how we feel connected to our families, communities, our world…and individually derive at a sense of meaning and purpose that comes from within ourselves…then we might all wake up and discover that the world has become spiritually, physically, and mentally bankrupt and do something about it.

    It’s time everybody realizes that we (everybody that exists) must share labor, resources, and problem solving to qualitatively and quantitatively enhance our existence and to ensure that we participate in maintaining the tools and means to survive ourselves.

    I’m not talking about a communistic form of life in any sense of the term or meaning of communism. I’m saying that we take off the blinders and see our common needs. We don’t have to kill each other over those common needs. We don’t have to steal from each other over the common needs.

  8. storky

    “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
    Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing?
    Then why call him God?” — Epicurus

  9. bryan mcclellan

    It appears to be chicken and eggs, Tree in the forest, else it remains mostly carbon based logic, would that it registers to the few.
    This is where survival and Tribal cross paths becoming two things in one. It’s as Cosmic as dirt with spiritual flavor.

    Maybe I’m making excuses, because I can’t make as much out of any reason/proof to account for all this division and at the same time, understand, they have become as useless as a soup sandwich until you’re out of soup.

  10. Phil Hoskins

    Phil, are you asking for man to step up, or hoping for the evolution of the ever evolving God ?

    Are those two things or one seen from a different perspective?

    Is that not the change we can live with?

    Phil Hoskins

  11. bryan mcclellan

    When free will is rescinded by Gods intervention IAM calls it Mother nature. In and of that vein, were I to be the originator of this experiment, why would I intervene betwixt my control groups?

    Take a Saganesque look at the cosmos and tell me we are alone.The utter vastness of the known universe totally contradicts all the theistic pap that keeps us at each others throats. Time after time, “man lives, man dies, and it’s all vanity” (CAKE). Talk about mans expanded universal ego. Spock said as much and more.

    I am of the belief that faith is a private matter and that vast cathedrals of monolithic demonstration, whether they be physical edifices or a message by a preacher from the mount can provide no succor compared to a clear conscience.

    What truly brings strife to man is that inability to bend others to his will with Iron, or other means, and among those who seek these powers we have witnessed the worst and the best of mans free will.

    We are not getting out of here alive, and that very fact is hidden by the so called Shepherds in their pursuit of the crux of our wealth and prosperity;
    Our living, spiritual, conscience.
    Forgive them, they know not what they do?

    We, Mankind could last and possibly pull back the curtain if a lesson could be taken seriously from Matthew 6:6, and all the while refrain from foisting our personal beliefs on our fellows for power in pursuit of avarice.

    Phil, are you asking for man to step up, or hoping for the evolution of the ever evolving God ?

  12. woody188

    I think you are right about the end of war coming. But it won’t be until after the next big one which will be so horrific we’ll lose that appetite for destruction along with huge swaths of people simply wiped out.

    Folks claiming to talk with God frequently start the wars, not end them.

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