We are a nation that has been invaded and occupied by Israel and our military is being used to expand their territory and steal other nations wealth. Iraq’s oil is now pumped to Hafia Israel.

Obama can’t seem to place enough jews in high positions with duel citizenship and give the jewish bankers enough of our money or place in a state of pionage to them. He must be removed from office along with his handlers. ALL OF THEM.

Translation: Because we avoided US soil, (except for torturing Padilla until he went mad) we can do as we please and torture anyone we want. I am sure that Raul Castro wants Gitmo back. Last I checked, we seem to exert control over that territory.

US facilities such as an embassy and military bases are sovereign US territory. If they are not, then John McCain isn’t an American along with many others. It would also mean all our soldiers across the globe are accountable to local laws if these are not US territory. I’m sure the government is going to try to have it both ways.

Is this a great country or what?

Woody I think you’ve got something there, until they change the rules.

- A very long time.

Did anyone do anything about it when it was happening?

- Not a thing.

Why are we hearing about it every day now?

- Because Obama needs a boost and a distraction.

Spare me the righteous indignation.

Only a fool would believe that we’re not still torturing people.

Do we need any more evidence that our masters in Washington are moral midgets?

There is silent debate in this country between those who silently claim torture is a necessary evil, and those who oppose it. Those who oppose torture must answer the other side if we are to get anywhere.

2. There are no life stories, that I know of, of people whose lives were ruined by being a suspect.

The follow is a discussion of a 7 and 9 year old tortured by the CIA in order to make them tell where their father was hiding.

http://rawstory.com/08/blog/2009/04/17/bush-torture-memos-align-with-account-that-911-suspects-children-were-tortured
Details concerning a number of real people in the above link.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed claimed his 7 & 9-year old children were tortured into telling the US government his whereabouts. Recently detailed revelations came out about torture revealed by Obama and added to by the Red Cross, of US detainees being terrorized by the use of fake poison insects put on the victim’s body, matching Khalid’s accusation.

The government is wasting time with years of isolation and sleep deprecation, destroying people’s lives. If the US decides to use torture, and was open about it, the victims would be better off. If a US soldier in the field comes across a witness and demanded to know where the soldiers were hiding, grabbed the victim by the nuts and said talk, and when he said something, the US GI would squeeze harder and say you lie or tell me more, the victim would be better off than spending years in isolation and sleep deprivation.

The US never got anywhere torturing the baddest of the bad, look at Moussaoui’s proud behavior, showing no harm for years of torture, unless he avoided torture by constantly revealing garbage, as he all during his trial blamed his Jewish lawyer for his woos.

In the TV drama “24 hours” Jack Bouer makes life miserable for the badest of the bad.

In a real life version, someone would reveal a plan to sneak an A bomb into a US city, but refuse too many details so al Qaeda wouldn’t find out and torture his kids. So Bouer, by remote contrail TV, has someone torture his kids. The witness talks, and the city is saved, but from then on no more witnesses coming forward, many people fearing to even use the anonymous tip program.

We got to join the real debate in this country over torture which is with fantasy TV.

http://capitolhillblue.com/blog/2419
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Observe also that under the Bill of Rights, “cruel and unusual” punishments are forbidden. The Bill of Rights doesn’t forbid cruel and unusual punishment only to citizens, but to everyone under US jurisdiction. The nauseating Hannity wing of the Republican Party insists that the Bill of Rights applies only to citizens. They pull this theory right out of their prodigious noses.

In a free and humane society, any form of prisoner abuse should be forbidden, whether you choose to call it torture or not. It is morally obscene to abuse someone who has been captured and is under your total control.

As a practical matter, torture and abuse does not yield reliable information. It does, however, yield politically convenient “confessions,” like the confessions we got from Khalid Sheikh Mohammad.