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Republicans voting “no” and hoping for failure

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February 9, 2009

Damn that human nature. Republicans stood by their economic philosophy that government programs are nothing more than useless welfare, and the way to stimulate the economy is by cutting taxes. Now all they have to to is hope that God is on their side and pray for the Democrat’s stimulus package to fail. If it fails it will change the balance of power in Congress in 2010 and diminish Obama’s 2012 reelection chances.
 
It’s often difficult for people to rise above human nature. Who doesn’t like to be a winner? Who doesn’t like to prove their opponents were wrong? Who doesn’t relish saying "I told you so"?
 
These aren’t rhetorical question.
 
The answer is those people who put what’s good for the country first.
 
The Democrats approach to stimulating the economy may be all wrong. But I can’t help but feel most Republicans truly are hoping it is a dismal failure.
 
Am I being too cynical? Am I less than charitable?
 
Does Dick Cheney really yearn for a horrible terror attack against the United States so he can say "I told you so" … sorry that’s another column.

24 Responses to Republicans voting “no” and hoping for failure

  1. JerryG

    February 10, 2009 at 10:13 am

    It’s really quite simple. The States with Republican Senators and Congressman who overwhelmingly vote “NO” on the stimulus don’t get any of the money. After all, their elected representatives obviously don’t believe that they are experiencing difficult economic times. Take South Carolina. Their Governor believes we should do nothing. Their Senator is obstructing passage because he’s delusional. If you ask me that State is positioned perfectly to go it alone and enact trickle-down and tax breaks on a Statewide basis and watch the recovery materialze!

    Now, what other State should be skunked? Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder…

  2. jverner

    February 10, 2009 at 10:22 am

    You’re right on the money. Consider the words of that august statesman GOP House member Pete Sessions, who last week told fellow Republicans “that they need to get over the idea that they’re participating in legislation and ought to start thinking of themselves as ‘an insurgency’ instead.” This week he followed up on that suggestion by expressing admiration for Taliban tactics, calling them “a model” for how to defeat the enemy. This guy is the chair of the National Republican Campaign Committee.

    But so what? This is exactly the kind of crap the voters just rejected. Obama’s right to cultivate his relationship with Republicans who want to express ideas how the government might work better. But Sessions ain’t one of them.

  3. Wayne K Dolik

    February 10, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    I agree with Woody. Where were the Paulson bunch on the first 350 billion bailout? AWOL How about the last 8 years you Republicans? And, spending on the Iraq war ? And the Constitution? Now you get back to the basics? Don’t you think it’s a little late? How do you say Conservative and not Neocon? Did you forget for 8 years?

    Just asking because I think you forgot who you were.

  4. bryan mcclellan

    February 10, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    Why would abject failures wish to do anything but FAIL?

    And in the process take down those around them while sucking up the spoils.

    Conservative / Neocon, as you say, one and the same.

  5. spartacus

    February 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    If you listen carefully to the Republicans of today, you’ll hear echoes of the Republicans of 1929, of Herbert Hoover and all his friends. You’d think they’d have learned from history, but oh, that’s right, Mitch McConnell even repeated the ridiculous assertion that the New Deal didn’t work “right now, we know from history that the large spending programs of the New Deal didn’t work”; evidently they don’t teach American history where McConnell comes from, or he’s been listening to the Limbaugh types who are dead set against the stimulus, and admittedly want the President to fail (and the entire country as a result), and have no problem even lying about our history (realizing their audience is none too bright anyway) to try to gain their objectives. Is there any real doubt WHY the President advised these jerks against listening to Limbaugh? A United States Senator should know his country’s history well enough to know that the New Deal DID work, unless he’s so enthralled with Limbaugh and other conservative radio (and tv) types that he thinks the rest of the population is just plain stupid. Of course, you could point out that it took an even LARGER government stimulus to truly get us out of the Great Depression: the ginning up for WWII. The only time there was no improvement from Roosevelt’s policies was when he listened to (guess who) REPUBLICANS and raised taxes to try to balance the budget due to all the spending the government had done: it resulted in a slowdown and even a slight meltdown in the gains Roosevelt had made. Most economists feel that Roosevelt was too timid in dealing with the Depression. Many feel this economic recovery bill is also. If Republicans have their way, the President will fail, and so will our fellow citizens. What they need to do is read their history books and stop listening to blowhards from Florida. Maybe then they’ll start to think about the good of the country and not play politics with the lives of their fellow Americans. If they can play petty party politics with the lives of so many Americans at stake, the Republican party deserves to lose power for the next generation, until every one of the current crop of heartless SOBs is out of office (and hopefully on the bread-line when their investments fail because they’ve blocked the recovery which took every asset they had with it).

  6. almandine

    February 10, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Wayne… you truly don’t know from Neocon. Try wikipedia for a start and learn.

  7. almandine

    February 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    Ditto for you Bryan… Neocon is just a curse word without meaning.

    Look it up.

  8. bryan mcclellan

    February 10, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    Neo as in new and abominable, add Reagan conservative and viola,

    NEOCON, any way you cut it spells the Rethuglican opposition to getting our republic back.

    Thanks for you input.I stand corrected, I think.

  9. AustinRanter

    February 11, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Bryan,

    I believe that for us to continue to view and judge our elected officials as liberals or conservatives is obsolete thinking.

    These folks are all owned by Corporations who continuely fight over who will maintain control over the resources.

    As we watch our Congress at work…we’re witnessing a public display of those corporate struggles over who controls what.

    Our Congress is virtually a privately held subsidary of a relevantly few Corporations.

  10. Wayne K Dolik

    February 12, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    The Project for a New American Century, (PNAC) was the founding document which fundamentally changed the Republican Party as we know it in the United States. Notions were floated by Bush 1 after the first Iraq war of the “New World Order”. Thus, this was the beginning of a new cancer growing in the Republican Party. This is/was a cancer involving global domination by plunder and aggression. The Bush family played a large part in this fundamental change in the GOP. However, there were significant others of dual citizenship which played a part.

    Shortly after 911 the Neocon’s were now in control of the Whitehouse, House of Representatives, and with Filibuster control of the Senate. Neocons imposed the new philosophy of PNAC-Neocon agenda upon the United States of America. Unfortunately many laws were passed by the Neocons and many collaborating Democrats in our Congress. Much of the law concerning the War on Terror passed by the Neocon movement was/is illegal, unconstitutional and immoral. Many American voters have rejected this philosophy in the nation and the Republican Party was trounced in the last election.

    The need for “stimulus” was brought on by the melt down in money market funds in one day. That is what caused the panic button to be hit by the Fed and Treasury. Currently the Republicans are returning to previously Conservative notions of fiscal responsibility. This seems to be hypocritical at this point, in light of all the damage the Republicans have done. I assure the readers here I have a very good understanding of the difference between Conservative and Neocon philosophy.

  11. bryan mcclellan

    February 11, 2009 at 6:16 pm

    Good point Austin, I neglected to name the Democrats because there in reality exists no line betwixt the two parties, but I’m much more disgusted with the Repsrobates. Thanks for the rebound.

  12. almandine

    February 13, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    “The need for “stimulus” was brought on by the melt down in money market funds in one day… I assure the readers here I have a very good understanding of the difference between Conservative and Neocon philosophy.”

    Non sequitur, to say the least.

  13. old_curmudgeon

    February 9, 2009 at 11:35 am

    Does Dick Cheney really yearn for a horrible terror attack against the United States so he can say “I told you so”

    Oh, absolutely. It’s how he solidifies his legacy.

    The Democrats approach to stimulating the economy may be all wrong. But I can’t help but feel most Republicans truly are hoping it is a dismal failure.

    The American people should be outraged at this but, you know they’re not. Those who are paying attention are pretty much resigned to the obvious and the majority (who are not paying attention) don’t want to look like they’re unpartiotic or siding with the opposition. Got to keep those party affiliations clearly defined.

    Divide and conquer. Mission Accomplished.

    But that’s just this old curmudgeon’s opinion…

  14. woody188

    February 9, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    We still have to wonder where Republican morals on fiscal responsibility were for the last 8 years. I’m glad they finally found them, better late than never and all. Too bad they awarded bankers with billions in TARP money before figuring out how morally decrepit they have become.

    Or maybe if this stimulus was to go entirely to the banks as well they would have voted Yea. Doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility. Certainly they are loyal to their Sugar Daddy banker buddies.

  15. Hal Brown

    February 9, 2009 at 12:53 pm

     Woody, there is that embarrassing question of the past eight years. 

    I suppose it’s best they try to pretend they never happened.

    After how they permitted Bush to be the imperial president, the decider, they have the gall to call Obama the chosen one or walks on water.

    Congressional Democrats have exercised the balance of power more since January 20th than Republicans did with Bush in eight years of rubber stamping everything he wanted.

     

  16. AustinRanter

    February 9, 2009 at 2:12 pm

    In my old, feeble, whiskey scarred brain, I think that attempting to distingush the good or bad acts of one party over another, and then try to create an argument…hardly addresses the problems we have with government.

    As long as we’re under the influence of political mass hypnosis that we seem to have been under for the last 200 plus years…we’ll continue to be lead far, far away from where either party side wants us to ever be.

    But, that’s just my opinion…as one tiny , micoscopic little human being in a dang big macrocosm.

  17. Hal Brown

    February 9, 2009 at 8:22 pm

     AustinRanter:

    It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.
    Sir Winston Churchill

  18. AustinRanter

    February 9, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Hal,

    As I have no doubt that you already know…”Res Publica” in Latin means “The Law”. That’s where the word “Republic” emerged. Thus we have a “Nation of Laws” to get down to the nitty gritty.

    But, our demi-gods in Washington don’t seem to remember that.

    All of our current financial and economic problems stem from the very laws that our legislative and executive branches have created. They can uncreate them.

    In fact, I can’t really think of any social problems that aren’t somehow rooted in laws that have been designed to benefit special interest rather than the general welfare of the people. Our politicians do these things without fear of consequences.

    I know…I know that I’m singing to the choir, Hal…but we (the electorates) have to begin to deal with “how” we place expectations, accountability, and demand integrity with our elected officials. Not just “who” we place these expectations, accountability and demands on.

    It would be damn nice, if along the way, our elected representatives would remove or drastically revise laws that exclude members of Congress and the Executive Branches from being accountable…and in many cases exempt from criminal liabilities. You and I would surely have to face serious consequences if we were to break so many of the laws that shield government elected officials.

    Washington desperately needs Lobbyists Reforms…and I mean genuine, painful, remove these vultures from the pockets of our Chambers of Congress…and any other affected government officials at any level or other branches.

    The corporate tits are deconstructing our country’s well being because our elected officials are addicted to them (if that makes any sense).

    Our government is virtually a privately held corporation at this point.

    Why would an addict want to give up their addiction? So, I think it’s time for an “Electorate Intervention”.

    “We The People” can’t continue to claim we’re victims of lying polticians and the media (who are owned by the corporations). I’m screaming this broken record over and over. Sorry, I have to.

    Thanks, Hal…

    Respectfully

    Gregg

  19. spartacus

    February 10, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    This might be a truly minor point, but your Latin is really faulty: ‘res publica’ means the republic, state, or commonwealth (which Rome was before the empire), and NOT the law. We get the word ‘republic’ simply by putting its two parts together.

  20. Hal Brown

    February 9, 2009 at 9:57 pm

     Be great if we could bring back the man who could have been king to reform the city named after him.

  21. AustinRanter

    February 10, 2009 at 6:08 am

    Touche’. Can you image what John Adams and Madison…George Mason and so many others who created somewhat of a miracle, and I don’t often use that word to describe something profound, would be thinking if they could be brought back?

  22. AustinRanter

    February 10, 2009 at 6:37 am

    Oh Gezzzzzzzzz,

    Well, if this isn’t a prime example of Hal Brown’s article I don’t know what is.

    This is shameful, and is so illustrative of what we are witnessing in the Republican Party as they rage on with their plot for revenge and a reckoning.

    Sen. John Cornyn of Texas (which is so embarrassing for me to admit) has really led the team with a truly disgusting show of disrespect to Texas and our nation at a time when he’s needed the most.

    The question from the Senate floor yesterday evening was “where was Cornyn,” as the Texas Republican was the only senator to miss the crucial cloture vote on the stimulus package.

    The answer: He was at a New York gathering of prominent media conservatives and Wall Street Republican donors called the Monday Meeting, held at the Grand Hyatt hotel in Midtown Manhattan.

    I just don’t think I can write another letter to this guy that would do any justice. I’d most likely be put in jail. I thought I would be in November when I wrote a letter calling him a crook and a liar. Yes, I did. He’s repeatedly shown party loyality over his constituents and the people of our country.

  23. Bix12

    February 10, 2009 at 8:33 am

    What is really different about this bill is how much attention it’s getting from the American public–I don’t think a bill has ever been followed this closely by so many average Americans.

    And judging by the poll numbers, that’s working out very well for President Obama, but not so good for the Republicans. The American people see President Obama bending over backwards for the Republicans, offering up tax breaks, adding Republicans to his administration, extending his hand in friendship, even inviting them over to watch the Super Bowl. He has shown again and again a willingness to try & find a way to work with them–yet every single time he’s extended his hand, it comes back bitten & bloody’d.

    This has not been lost on the voters, as the mid-term elections will prove.

    People like Senator Mitch McConnell, Senators Kyl & McCain, Representative John Boehner, Senator Lindsey Graham, etc., etc., are still clinging to the failed “trickle-down” catastrophe that helped to create this mess–more & more it is becoming obvious to the average citizen that the Republican party despises middle-class America, and will continue doing their evil best to destroy it. Fine…I say let them carry on with this Kamakazi-esque strategy, and come 2010, they, and many others like them, will be swept out of office, thus finally killing off the anti-Americana Reagen Republicans once & for all…and good riddance, too!

  24. AustinRanter

    February 10, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    Spartacus, you are correct. I found an ancient latin root phrase that was an evolutionary term…that I intended to include in that paragraph…that was leading to our current understanding (or use) of the term Republic. Now, I can’t find that term, but as you pointed out a minor point.