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		<title>By: Doug Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/13719/comment-page-1#comment-44910</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sorry. I&#039;ve been as big a critic of the Bush Administration as anyone but I cannot say with any certainty that he has violated any law. His invasion of Iraq, however repugnant, was authorized by Congress. Lyndon Johnson was never charged or tried for the lies surrounding the Gulk of Tonkin incident and more than 55,000 Americans died in that war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush will not be charged with any crime. Neither will Cheney, Rumsfeld. et. al.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In 15 days, he and his administration are history. It&#039;s done. Get over it and move on.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have much bigger problems to deal with in this world and we cannot afford the distraction of a hopeless cause simply to satisfy a bloddlust for revenge.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe Bush was misguided but I cannot say with absolute certainty that he was either criminal or corrupt. I played fast and loose with such charges during his Presidency and I was wrong to do so. It was a mistake that will not happen again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry. I&#8217;ve been as big a critic of the Bush Administration as anyone but I cannot say with any certainty that he has violated any law. His invasion of Iraq, however repugnant, was authorized by Congress. Lyndon Johnson was never charged or tried for the lies surrounding the Gulk of Tonkin incident and more than 55,000 Americans died in that war.</p>
<p>Bush will not be charged with any crime. Neither will Cheney, Rumsfeld. et. al.</p>
<p>In 15 days, he and his administration are history. It&#8217;s done. Get over it and move on.</p>
<p>We have much bigger problems to deal with in this world and we cannot afford the distraction of a hopeless cause simply to satisfy a bloddlust for revenge.</p>
<p>I believe Bush was misguided but I cannot say with absolute certainty that he was either criminal or corrupt. I played fast and loose with such charges during his Presidency and I was wrong to do so. It was a mistake that will not happen again.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/13719/comment-page-1#comment-44911</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There was no dig intended. I&#039;m sorry you saw it that way. As I&#160;noted in another post, the entire Ken Starr fiasco was a waste of the nation&#039;s time and effort. Any hate you feel I&#160;had towards Clinton is your own misinterpretation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no dig intended. I&#8217;m sorry you saw it that way. As I&nbsp;noted in another post, the entire Ken Starr fiasco was a waste of the nation&#8217;s time and effort. Any hate you feel I&nbsp;had towards Clinton is your own misinterpretation.</p>
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		<title>By: griff</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/13719/comment-page-1#comment-44912</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush is a puppet. Obama is a puppet. The Congress are puppets. Ike tried to tell us.

Ceremonial bit actors playing before the media and the awestruck, bewildered populace. The rape and pillage of not only this once great country, but the rest of the world, will continue in earnest while we all hold our collective breath for the new messiah to deliver us from the evil that our Political Class has wrought.

What a joke we have become. Relegated to hoping and begging for that which is ours, but never to be had again. Worshipping these elitist, treasonous scum even as they steal our country and our future, themselves insulated from the effects of their policies. Sermonizing from on high, promising salvation yet delivering nothing but more misery.

But you are right, Doug. No one will be held accountable because birds of a feather flock together, as the saying goes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush is a puppet. Obama is a puppet. The Congress are puppets. Ike tried to tell us.</p>
<p>Ceremonial bit actors playing before the media and the awestruck, bewildered populace. The rape and pillage of not only this once great country, but the rest of the world, will continue in earnest while we all hold our collective breath for the new messiah to deliver us from the evil that our Political Class has wrought.</p>
<p>What a joke we have become. Relegated to hoping and begging for that which is ours, but never to be had again. Worshipping these elitist, treasonous scum even as they steal our country and our future, themselves insulated from the effects of their policies. Sermonizing from on high, promising salvation yet delivering nothing but more misery.</p>
<p>But you are right, Doug. No one will be held accountable because birds of a feather flock together, as the saying goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Thompson</title>
		<link>http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/13719/comment-page-1#comment-44913</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for proving my point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for proving my point.</p>
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		<title>By: DVL666</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first act as President would be to have W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Karl, Condi, Wolfie et.al. renditioned from the reviewing stand. After they would be subjected  to their definition  of  acceptable &quot;interrogation&quot; until they acknowledge the real reason for Iraq. I&#039;d just be using the laws that they established. After that they can be detained w/o habeus corpus until the last trooper comes home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first act as President would be to have W, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Karl, Condi, Wolfie et.al. renditioned from the reviewing stand. After they would be subjected  to their definition  of  acceptable &#8220;interrogation&#8221; until they acknowledge the real reason for Iraq. I&#8217;d just be using the laws that they established. After that they can be detained w/o habeus corpus until the last trooper comes home.</p>
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		<title>By: dtotire</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DanT

I don&#039;t hate the man.  His policies were stupid.  He should never have been nominated for the Presidency.  The Republicans had better candidates.  It will take many years to correct the problems that he has caused or did nothing about, like two wars, the massive federal deficit, the $700 billion balance of payment deficit, the overdependence on foreign energy sources, the Middle East problems, etc. 
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<p>I don&#8217;t hate the man.  His policies were stupid.  He should never have been nominated for the Presidency.  The Republicans had better candidates.  It will take many years to correct the problems that he has caused or did nothing about, like two wars, the massive federal deficit, the $700 billion balance of payment deficit, the overdependence on foreign energy sources, the Middle East problems, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: adamrussell</title>
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		<description>There is a problem endemic to the republican party that I dislike more than bush.  Ronald Reagan their patron saint said &quot;The 11th commandment is that thou shalt not speak ill of another republican&quot;.  In other words &quot;If you see another republican doing wrong, just shut up about it.  Party loyalty comes before honor&quot;.  If you watch the actions of republicans in general you can tell that they have taken this saying to heart.  The republican culture deeply feels that it is more important to beat the dems than to do the right thing.  IMO once you devalue honor and honesty you can no longer be trusted at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a problem endemic to the republican party that I dislike more than bush.  Ronald Reagan their patron saint said &#8220;The 11th commandment is that thou shalt not speak ill of another republican&#8221;.  In other words &#8220;If you see another republican doing wrong, just shut up about it.  Party loyalty comes before honor&#8221;.  If you watch the actions of republicans in general you can tell that they have taken this saying to heart.  The republican culture deeply feels that it is more important to beat the dems than to do the right thing.  IMO once you devalue honor and honesty you can no longer be trusted at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Paolo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised to see Doug Thompson so mellow. Doug, you don&#039;t have to hate Bush (and Gonzales and Rumsfeld and Cheney etc.). But you do have to call for justice in the crimes--yes, crimes--that they committed. 

I don&#039;t hate George W. Bush. Don&#039;t know the man. However, he has committed crimes against his country and against the Constitution. I think he should be treated like any other citizen and brought up on charges, judged, and put in prison. 

Nothing hateful about it. I just think politicians should be held to the same standard as ordinary citizens. 

I also don&#039;t hate the moral monsters who embarrassed this country by authorizing and rationalizing torture, including bizarre sexual humiliation in the name of defending our country. I don&#039;t hate them, but I think they deserve a lot of time in prison. 

If we do the usual thing, and let bygones be bygones, that just tells all future administrations that they, too, can get away with pretty much whatever they wish. That sets a very, very bad precedent. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised to see Doug Thompson so mellow. Doug, you don&#8217;t have to hate Bush (and Gonzales and Rumsfeld and Cheney etc.). But you do have to call for justice in the crimes&#8211;yes, crimes&#8211;that they committed. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate George W. Bush. Don&#8217;t know the man. However, he has committed crimes against his country and against the Constitution. I think he should be treated like any other citizen and brought up on charges, judged, and put in prison. </p>
<p>Nothing hateful about it. I just think politicians should be held to the same standard as ordinary citizens. </p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t hate the moral monsters who embarrassed this country by authorizing and rationalizing torture, including bizarre sexual humiliation in the name of defending our country. I don&#8217;t hate them, but I think they deserve a lot of time in prison. </p>
<p>If we do the usual thing, and let bygones be bygones, that just tells all future administrations that they, too, can get away with pretty much whatever they wish. That sets a very, very bad precedent.</p>
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		<title>By: ckaye99</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say that the rage is pretty healthy and justified at this point, Mr. Thompson, considering the ruin done our country the past 8 years, in every aspect of our county&#039;s existence there is.  I would have been horrified were there not, finally, this reaction.  This means the body still has a pulse and there is hope.

Molly Ivins had been writing about GW for years before he came to office, and it certainly gave us warning about what he would be like as a president.  There was also the track records of Grandfather Prescott and GH to contemplate, and none of that made us any more comfortable with a GWB presidency either.  Activists on the street at the time tried to warn people about what was coming down the pike, but the public apathy was pretty gosh darn hard to break through at the time.  That started changing in May 2003, in the push to war and the wave of lies coming to light thereon.  People were waking up.

Did you see the Pew Research poll where 61% of historians rated GWB the worst president ever? It was an informal poll of 109 professional historians, but that speaks volumes, wouldn&#039;t you say?  I would say that even if half of those historians change their opinions, you would still have a third of the field, 33%, pretty much sticking to their guns.  So if history does revise its opinion in hindsight, it would still look pretty bad for your object of Christian charity.

People are rightly angry about the growing homeless and food insecure population and the desperate lack of jobs.  18,000 a year were dying from lack of healthcare in 2002; one can only guess what the numbers might be now.  And from all appearances things are going to get worse.  What do you want to talk about now, the steering of contracts to favored agencies, the outright graft, the faking of evidence in Iraq?  There sure is a lot to be angry about, and hopefully, the people never allow themselves to be fooled like this again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that the rage is pretty healthy and justified at this point, Mr. Thompson, considering the ruin done our country the past 8 years, in every aspect of our county&#8217;s existence there is.  I would have been horrified were there not, finally, this reaction.  This means the body still has a pulse and there is hope.</p>
<p>Molly Ivins had been writing about GW for years before he came to office, and it certainly gave us warning about what he would be like as a president.  There was also the track records of Grandfather Prescott and GH to contemplate, and none of that made us any more comfortable with a GWB presidency either.  Activists on the street at the time tried to warn people about what was coming down the pike, but the public apathy was pretty gosh darn hard to break through at the time.  That started changing in May 2003, in the push to war and the wave of lies coming to light thereon.  People were waking up.</p>
<p>Did you see the Pew Research poll where 61% of historians rated GWB the worst president ever? It was an informal poll of 109 professional historians, but that speaks volumes, wouldn&#8217;t you say?  I would say that even if half of those historians change their opinions, you would still have a third of the field, 33%, pretty much sticking to their guns.  So if history does revise its opinion in hindsight, it would still look pretty bad for your object of Christian charity.</p>
<p>People are rightly angry about the growing homeless and food insecure population and the desperate lack of jobs.  18,000 a year were dying from lack of healthcare in 2002; one can only guess what the numbers might be now.  And from all appearances things are going to get worse.  What do you want to talk about now, the steering of contracts to favored agencies, the outright graft, the faking of evidence in Iraq?  There sure is a lot to be angry about, and hopefully, the people never allow themselves to be fooled like this again.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas H</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Put aside the hate and anger and move on?&quot;

Maybe so on any hate and anger, but we cannot and should not &quot;move on&quot; without holding George W. Bush and all his Republican cronies accountable for what they&#039;ve done to this country in the past eight years. To do so would be admitting to the world that the U.S. does not stand for peace and justice. To do so would be showing the world that leadership in the U.S. is no better than the worst, murderous thugs in power in some Third World countries. Bush and his Republican cronies must be held accountable for the approximately one million people they have killed and maimed during Bush&#039;s deplorable administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Put aside the hate and anger and move on?&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe so on any hate and anger, but we cannot and should not &#8220;move on&#8221; without holding George W. Bush and all his Republican cronies accountable for what they&#8217;ve done to this country in the past eight years. To do so would be admitting to the world that the U.S. does not stand for peace and justice. To do so would be showing the world that leadership in the U.S. is no better than the worst, murderous thugs in power in some Third World countries. Bush and his Republican cronies must be held accountable for the approximately one million people they have killed and maimed during Bush&#8217;s deplorable administration.</p>
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