Time for a pregnant pause

Bristol Palin, the 17-year-old daughter of presumptive GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin, from her boyfriend, a self-described 18-year-old "redneck."

The folks around Palin’s hometown of Wasilla, Alaska, say mom liked to have a good time when she was a cute, perky high school student and beauty queen. At the University of Idaho, classmates knew Sarah Palin as a party girl who chugged beer, favored ultra-short denim cutoffs and wore suggestive t-shirts that said things like "I may be broke but I’m not flat busted."

Her family knew. When news organizations asked for photos of a young Palin after she became John McCain’s vice presidential pick, the folks back home provided a photo (right) of young Palin in her dorm room wearing that "flat busted" t-shirt.

Most of us did things when we were younger that we don’t like to talk about now. But Bristol Palin’s sexual habits are not the real issue when it comes to Sarah Palin’s qualifications to be, as they say, a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Neither is mom’s bed hopping as a co-ed. Sarah Palin has real skeletons in her political closet, ranging from the expanding "troopergate" scandal in Alaska to her bald-faced lies about her role in the infamous "bridge to nowhere" and to her membership in the lunatic fringe Alaska Independent Party, a group of wacko separatists who once put one of their own in the governor’s mansion.

Palins’ record reeks of extremism, from her rabid right-wing views to her blatant political hypocrisy.  Her political opponents call her a psycho. It’s not an exaggeration. Others consider her dangerous and we’ve had eight years of psychotic behavior in the White House. We don’t need more.

John McCain is an old man with known health problems. His skin cancer may or may not be cured. He suffers lingering effects from his time as a prisoner of war. The odds that he will live through a first term are not good.  It he wins, that leaves the nation with a vice president who may be more threatening to our nation than Dick Cheney. That’s a frightening prospect and one worth considering.

Comments

  1. Link7881

    Hmmmm… Is this the best the Republican Party has to offer? Would Ms. Palin, absent her beauty queen looks, surfeit of “family values”? Is her life lived in proximity to the land mass known as Russia equivalent to actual experience in foreign affairs?

    The Closet

  2. griff

    I guess you’re right, but I just don’t find it amusing anymore. They’ve made a mockery of this country and the serious business of politics.

  3. sherry

    Doug, perhaps I got so disgusted reading the democrat version of the Starr report, the political skeltons became a moot point.
    I was pretty boring in college. At 16, it was an absolute culture shock.
    Then after college…… Let’s just say if youthful indecretions are political fodder, I wouldn’t be a candidate for prez.
    Now that I am a Christian, Olbermann would have to have one of his nasty commentaries on me….

  4. pattywagn

    I have a serious issue with SP’s right to life viewpoint. They endorse “abstinence only” sex education, which doesn’t work. That results in more unplanned pregnancies, which equals more abortions. Solution? Serious education with family planning services, but the right wing fringe don’t want that. It’s immoral, of course! So we keep having more unplanned pregnancies and they get to keep having their fight against abortion. They are not truly interested in decreasing the unplanned pregnancy rate. It’s insanity.

  5. Warren

    I hear ya, Griff, but we deal with the jobs-war-economy stuff essentially EVERY day. How often do we get to watch this kind of political Kabuki? Every 4 years? You have to admit, it’s entertaining. Absolutely nothing of substance. Substance is to be avoided. This is entertainment.
    -Warren

  6. gazelle1929

    >>>About the only positive thing I’ve found so far about Ms. Palin is that she apparently has a much better aim than our current Vice President, and she also knows how to field dress a Moose.<<< Yeah, but can she take on a Mason? Them Moose guys is easy, but Masons've been known to fight back.

  7. Lillibet

    I don’t know, I really am just a violinist. With attitude. Thanks Checkerboard, you made my day. But in truth, I just played a bit of follow the leader.

    Hal, the article you linked to only provides evidence of the obvious. Having a keen sense thereof, I have to gather the pillows and soft objects in preparation for tonight’s speeches. Throwing books tends to do fatal levels of damage to the teevee. Lillibet

  8. Flapsaddle

    Thank, you, but no. I’ve grown accustomed to the TJF signature, and that’s how I’m known here.

    Further, let it be understood that I never questioned your honesty in any form or fashion; I suggested that the style you had used in the column was perhaps a wee bit intellectually dishonest.

    I’ve seen a number of rabidly partisan people on this site accuse you of dishonesty and call you a liar over your broadside du jour because it gored their particular partisan ox. I’ve seen you accused both explicitly and implicitly of being a misogynist, a Hillary-hater, an Obama sock-puppet, a McCain supporter and an agent-of-influence for Karl Rove. I’ve seen posters demand that you pick a side “for the good of the country”.

    You will not find my name anywhere among those so hectoring you. You will find that I have defended your “rant” columns – not that you really needed it – and that I have pointed out to others that you have spared neither side and none of the candidates from you wrath. Also, please note that I have not exactly devoted any significant effort to pandering to/for you either.

    I enjoy the reading and I enjoy the privilege of being allowed to post, but I’m not going to rigidly go along with everything you say just to get along.

    Most sincerely,

    T. J. Flapsaddle

  9. Doug Thompson

    Send me your real name via email and I’ll see you login is changed.

    I was making a general observation that I felt it was funny that my honesty is so often questioned by those who don’t post under their own names.

  10. GovtFlu

    “I would like to drive my Iditarod into her slushy sleigh anytime.”

    After all the action shes seen, that’d be like tossing a hot dog down a hallway.

  11. ChescoRes

    Unbelievable……………………….

    Oh Doug, are you freakin kidding me???

    You title the piece “Time for a pregnant pause”, and you start your story with this line…..

    Bristol Palin, the 17-year-old daughter of presumptive GOP vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin, screws around.

    …and you think WE missed the point of the story??

    puhLEEEEZE!

    And BTW, what do you actually KNOW about the young Miss Palin other than she’s 17 and pregnant?? I’ll bet next week’s pay check the answer is “nothing”, given your exhaustive jornalistic efforts of the recent past.

    Unless you’ve done some research and can back up that claim with some facts, the first line of this piece is nothing short of disgusting. And now you want to admonish US?

    Spare me.

    If you want to write a piece about the REAL skeletons in Palin’s closet, then DO IT! But you didn’t do that. You wrote a piece about her pregnant daughter and her partying past and threw in ONE paragraph (the SEVENTH paragraph in the piece) about the REAL issues.

    But WE missed the point. Yeah, riiiiiight.

  12. Flapsaddle

    My real name was not accepted by your system, for some reason; therefore, an alternate.

    I didn’t refer to you as being intellectually dishonest – I said I thought that the style for the column was being a wee bit intellectually dishonest. And I believe that I also pointed out that I was trained in a different style of writing – a non-journalistic mode.

    I do not question your fundamental intellectual honesty because I have noted on several occasions that you are ruthlessly impartial in your disdain for all of the parties and all of the political figures.

    Now, given the implication that I am indulging in a bit of intellectual dishonesty, would you be good enough to post an example of it?

    Most sincerely,

    T. J. Flapsaddle

  13. keith

    You want something besides pablum? Try this link:

    http://www.alternet.org/election08/97198/top_ten_most_disturbing_facts_and_impressions_of_sarah_palin/

    And this:

    http://www.alternet.org/election08/97350/8_more_shocking_revelations_about_sarah_palin/

    If only half of these allegations are true, then Mr. McCain has offered up a far-right (not to mention extremely dangerous) “wing-nut” candidate for the second highest office in our land…a person who would seemingly prefer that we all lived as the early Christians did.

    About the only positive thing I’ve found so far about Ms. Palin is that she apparently has a much better aim than our current Vice President, and she also knows how to field dress a Moose.

    Clearly, if she is elected, teaching the rest of us how to employ both of these absolutely essential leadership skills will become critically important once our economy completely tanks we are again forced to forage for our own food.

  14. pollchecker

    I’m still waiting for the voracious attack on Ms Palin’s qualifications to be VP and McCain’s lack of judgement in choosing such a person. This pregnancy issue is nothing but pablum. Where’s the meat?

  15. CheckerboardStrangler

    And Lillibet all this time I was referring to you as a
    “really smart fiddle playing babe” but I now see that I was in fact still underestimating your powers.
    I bow to your master strokes and promise to hang up my
    well used “hypocrisy” placard and devote the rest of my time to the meatier issues.

  16. griff

    What a pathetic and disturbing political process we have here. We claim to be above all these media-driven distractions, but oh how we live for it.

    What’s the Federal Reserve doing to our currency today?

    How many families have been cast into the streets today?

    How many jobs have we lost today?

    How many people have we killed today?

    Indeed, it’s time for a pause.

  17. Doug Thompson

    I find it hilarious when people who post comments on web sites using incomplete, fake or screen names accuse me of being "intellectually dishonest."

  18. CheckerboardStrangler

    Stumpy the only thing I found unusual about Doug’s column is that it was formatted almost like a broadcast script, with a buildup to the lead (which you said is buried in the middle)whereas with most “newspaper” columns the lead is presented almost immediately and then the story is broken down into some form of analysis.

    So either the indiscretions were the lead or the column was meant for broadcast.

    But he DID emphasize that Palin has “real skeletons” in her closet, which would suggest that the reader take the time to analyze for themselves and move away from the hot button issue of her youthful sexual proclivities.

    I happen to think that the lead, at least for now, is the wholesale hypocrisy of the Republican Party, because the differences in how these sexual and moral bugaboos are being handled with one of their own is appalling.

    I am certainly not saying that I am not open to expanding my focus to the more meatier issues later on.
    I just want it on record that there is a glaring double standard in play, if only because that same double standard was completely ignored during the public horsewhipping of the last Democratic President, and during the last twelve years that the Republicans held a majority in both houses of the legislature.
    When it’s one of their own, questions of their indiscretions are met with “Hey, that’s over the line, this is their PRIVATE LIFE!”
    When it’s the Dems, ALL is fair game.

    Fair and balanced? I think not.
    Now, once it has been drummed into the public consciousness that there is a double standard in play I would LOVE to see an expanded focus on Palin’s take on the issues.
    I’ll even start off with a reference to her astounding lack of knowledge with regard to American history as pointed out by several respected Ranters.

  19. Lillibet

    Ergo, naked pandering on McCain’s part.

    If it were not, she’d not also be attempting to slow or curtail the TrooperGate investigation, the rumors of her power madness with the demand for resignations as a test of loyalty while Mayor of Wasilla, and on, and on, and on.

    Then again, her loyalty to Sen. Stevens was true, until it was politically inexpedient. Her support for the Bridge to Nowhere was unwavering until it was unpopular. Her husband’s meddling in various matters, akin to her personal family Rove-r, would never have been an issue.

    Her judgment in getting on a plane and enduring an 8 hour flight, in labor, plus a long drive to a hospital without a NICU, while pregnant with Trig, would also not be a question.

    If her judgment and experience made her ready to be CIC, she’d not have people touting her foreign policy experience, which apparently amounts to a refueling stop at Shannon Airport, a trip to Canada, and a residence in proximity to Russia (shared by all Alaskans).

    It is naked pandering, hoping for the “babe vote”, and the “I want to look at what passes for a ‘babe’ in politics” vote. It is the power of the physically attractive to attract votes, and reliance on the willingness of the unthinking to ignore substance when a person just will look ‘good’ for the next four years.

    Lillibet

  20. Hoggy

    Funny she looks kind of familiar. I lived in Idaho at the same time about a half hour away from Moscow where she went to school. My buddies and I used to chase all the college girls all the time.We caught a bunch of them too. . The drinking age was 19 at the time so everybody was hanging out at the local bars and parties. I was a slut banging like crazy and so was everyone else. AIDS wasn’t a “real” issue yet so we all had a good time. What else do you do when you are 19 ? Especially in Moscow,Id which is basically a field with a college in the middle of it. Sorry Moscowites but you know its true.

    The difference between me and her is I’m not running for the second highest office in the land professing supposed values that run counter to my actions. And if the tables were turned I would deserve the scrutiny that comes with that. I’ve got skeletons too. We all do.
    The thing that kills me is that she is crazy enough to drag her family through this with her selfish actions. She knew this was going to blow up and she did it anyway and her daughter doesnt deserve this.
    The really sad part is that she is getting played. In a week or two maybe sooner, she will bail out for blah blah blah reasons and they will put in who they wanted to in the first place.
    This was all so they can own the news cycle for weeks.
    All of this because Obama blew the world away with his speech and they freaked out and needed that rush to go away instantly.
    His glow was pissed on by the Rovian tactics they use and lots of decent people will pay for it.
    We are all the worse for it.
    Anybody remember Iraq ? Its still going on. Although Bush has adopted a Obama timetable now.

    WAKE UP NOW FOLKS BEFORE ITS OVER

  21. bryan mcclellan

    I stopped by a neocon fortress today that I do odd jobs for and my good friend the vice Prez shows me a picture of a proud mother holding her son with a derogatory statement plastered on his T-shirt. You can guess which party.

    I mentioned that it’s a little early to be warping a small mind and the replies I received convinced me that mindlessness and goose stepping are rampant in neocon land.

    I barely escaped with my hair when I uttered keating 5, jane fonda, songbird, and the bridge to nowhere.

    Indeed, stupidity/laziness rule the day Strato.

  22. bryan mcclellan

    These are the terrorists I fear far more than any.
    The Kalnins, Dobsons, Jacksons, etc.
    These fools have given only one gift to faith and that is the perversion of scripture that reveals to the clear minded and sane that those railing against evil are the first to utilize it for personal profit.

    God is the casual observer and has given man free will, neither does he seek to change the course of history, or physically intervene in the actions of men/woman.

    How well the pious peddle their tricycle of fear and deal the cards of hell and damnation.They would keep us in skins and fear eclipse of the heavenly bodies were it in their power.

    Faith is meant to soothe the stricken and not to be used as a tool to afflict those who are not like minded.
    I’m reminded of that each time I ask for our troops to come home safe and whole that it has to be a request for them, not for myself.
    I’m reminded each time I stoop to help a child or hold a door for the elderly that these actions get me no closer to nirvana than I was a moment ago.

    To think people exist that would support a bloodsucker like Bush and pray for pipelines as their saviors makes me want to hurl myself from this tiny ledge where I reside, sans the parachute.

    Thanks for the link Hal.

  23. RichardKanePA

    RichardKanePA
    I don’t think either of them would be a good President by all this hysterics could backfire.

    I am touched that Sarah decided to keep her Down syndrome child, and it shows honesty in being pro-life. Though I wonder why she isn’t a little pro life toward the animals she likes to hunt and is so hawkish on foreign affairs.

    As an extremely busy mom, she must almost have a fetish to hunt, because it certainly isn’t what one would expect someone to have time for, between taking care of her kids and working toward clean government at the same time.

    President Bush’s worse mistake was not saying “yes” when Saddam ask if he could leave and take his money with him. The government lies for National Security all the time. Why didn’t Bush just lie and tell Saddam, he could leave and surprise him with a Human Rights trial a year later, if he couldn’t stomach Saddam going free.

    Sarah, if she does become President might make more stupid errors than Bush, and she won’t be able to be a trusted advisor for a growingly senile president.

    Come on all you others scared of what John or Sarah might do, let’s not exaggerate too much.

    Goggle RichardKanePA

  24. Flapsaddle

    Isn’t that just a wee bit intellectually dishonest?

    With malice prepensed, so to speak, you lead and end with the “juicy” elements – things that you know will attract interest – and you bury the meat of the story between the spicier condiments…and then complain about what people pick up on?

    In fact, Sherry hit the nail square on the head: The issues are ignored and the scrofulous element reigns supreme.

    I certainly would not presume to instruct you on how to write a column or a news story – my training is as a physical scientist, and technical writing is a completely different genre – but I was taught that the best writing establishes the important points first, follows with essential details, and does not contain superfluous material that does not contribute to the discussion.

    Most sincerely,

    T. J. Flapsaddle.

  25. Doug Thompson

    In a news story, that is correct but this was a column and columns are usually structured different, which is something my 40 years in the business taught me.

    I devoted the first paragraphs to the salacious part because (1) I knew that would get attention and (2) that’s where the media attention has been for the past 72 hours.

    My mistake for thinking people would read the whole thing and get the point.

     

  26. Hal Brown

    The new Rev. Wright… may well be Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God since 1999. This was the home town church Palin used to attend regularly.

    This has nothing to do with Palin’s current controversies, at least not yet (stay tuned) but as a public service I offer this as a “must read” article:
    Palin’s Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview
    .

    Her pastor’s fringe right wing fundamentalist beliefs, including in the end of days, won’t be addressed in official Obama ads, but that won’t Move-On or other groups from playing the turn-around is fair play game.

  27. Stratocaster

    In my very limited journalist training, I was always taught that the two sentences with the most impact were the first and the last, and the points that you want to make should be contained in either one or both. Magazine articles tend to build up to the main point, and newspaper articles start with the main point so they can cut the bottom paragraphs if they need the space. That being said, I don’t know nutin about nutin. All I know is what I think, what I thank, and what I thunk.

  28. Stratocaster

    To me a McCain Palin ticket is a joke. But there is always the risk that ignorant candidates with poor judgement will appeal to ignorant voters with poor judgement.

  29. Hal Brown

    The new Rev. Wright… may well be Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God since 1999. This was the home town church Palin used to attend regularly.

    This has nothing to do with Palin’s the current controversies, at least not yet (stay tuned) but as a public service I offer this as a “must read” article:
    Palin’s Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview
    .

    Her pastor’s fringe right wing fundamentalist beliefs, including in the end of days, won’t be addressed in official Obama ads, but that won’t Move-On or other groups from playing the turn-around is fair play game.

  30. stumpy

    To be fair Doug, you did spend the first SIX *and* the last paragraph talking about the indiscretions … burying the meat in the middle and expecting people to find it isn’t always a good way to address your important points, especially for skimming ‘net readers. Would you agree?

  31. Doug Thompson

    What I find most interesting about many of the comments here is the pious anger over what they see as a focus on Bristol’s pregnancy or Sarah’s days as a college party girl. It appears that not one read the paragraph that said;

    But Bristol Palin’s sexual habits are not the real issue when it comes to Sarah Palin’s qualifications to be, as they say, a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Neither is mom’s bed hopping as a co-ed. Sarah Palin has real skeletons in her political closet, ranging from the expanding "troopergate" scandal in Alaska to her bald-faced lies about her role in the infamous "bridge to nowhere" and to her membership in the lunatic fringe Alaska Independent Party, a group of wacko separatists who once put one of their own in the governor’s mansion.

    Christ, you’re in such a damned hurry to get pissed off about something that you missed the entire point. It proves the old adage that no one ever lost an election by underestimating the intelligence of the American voter.

  32. Cailleach

    I am so sick of people saying that Obama is unqualified. He has credentials up the wazoo. Bush had executive experience and look what eight years of his experience has gotten us. Bush’s credentials are far weaker than Obama’s. McCain’s are even weaker than Bush’s: fifth from bottom of his class at the naval academy, lousy pilot, five (or is it six?) years as a POW, one of the Keating Five who almost destroyed the savings and loan industry and cost us millions to bail out? Connections to the mob in Arizona? This qualifies him to be POTUS how?

    And now we want someone who was mayor of a small town, governor for 1 1/2 years of a state with less population than many American cities, has no foreign experience and almost none in the lower 48, and wants to outlaw abortion even in cases of rape or incest, and also outlaw birth control for married women to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? Oh yes, she’s a Dominionist and wants to overthrow the consitution in favor of a theocracy. Isn’t this a breath away from treason?

  33. Malibu

    I don’t care about Palin’s history or the condition of her family but I do not want her setting social issues such as no birth control when she should have protected her daughter. While we’re at it, I do not want Creation taught in any public schools. Our children are not going in the same direction that we did at their age. Creation was never taught in our schools back in the 40s and it should not be taught now. That is up to the parents and the churches. I learned it from our neighborhood Presbyterian Sunday School.

    I lean into the LP these days as neither party is addressing my concerns.

  34. Ann

    It is not the girl lots of teenagers get PG it is the MOTHER she puts her own daughter out there to face this and to hell with her feeling. We shouldn’t be on the daughter or the child with Down Syndrome which by the way needs a mother really bad let leave the kids out of it because their mother won’t she will do anything to get what she wants at their expense. I feel so sorry for that daughter to be thrown in this what mother would do that there are lots of people that would have been good for the VP the me factor makes me want to screem. If you can’t trust you mother who can you trust? I tell you she is as unfit a mother as I have ever seen. When those two kids need her the most she is being the beauty queen again and to hell with the kids. She made that choice knowing both things about her kids and she should be there for them not ruining their name. She makes me sick. ME ME ME to hell with her children. If she will drag her daughter through this she will do anything that is what scares me. My heart goes out to the girl and the little boy. She is a shame to the word mother she a mother is to protect her children she doesn’t have a brain in her head what a mother is.
    Ann