These revelations are very damning to Rumsfeld, Gonzales, and Addington, all who pushed for invading Iraq, torture, and even now they want to nuke Iran. All are war criminals as defined by the Geneva Conventions.

I have to think that some group behind Hitler was also annoyed by his actions. They kept their mouths shut too. The core of ethics and values is no longer a part of our Federal government and even the best leaders fell under the Bush bus.

Some of my best friends from the days of early GOP development are backing no-holds-barred torture. Many of these people are good Christians who can turn away from the horrors of torture. I thought it was an American value, and it is no longer, at this time. This is another reason I gave up believing in any God as most people are animals when it comes to war. It sort of shoots the whole Christian thing, doesn't it? I'm beginning to think it is the Atheists who hold the moral cards on this stuff. We have our own moral codes and we stand by them. Under Bush, our groups have grown as we can see the duplicity of this God stuff when the believers obtain a little power.

I will never understand how Christians can look the other way when they see torture, dishonesty and corruption all around them. My grandparents (firm Christians)would have revolted under the circumstances in the Bush Administration. Some here who are believers have revolted but the GOP has favored the Christians with promises of a police state and many good Americans have simply backed away. It is an abuse of the people who believe in God.

Sandra, I couldn't agree with you more. So-called "Good Christians" are the most blood-thirsty when given a bit of power. We've seen eight long years of it. It's time for a change!

Teresa

They are wolves disguised as christians. IMO there are very few followers of Christ left.

So-called "Good Christians" are the most blood-thirsty when given a bit of power. We've seen eight long years of it.

Then it's obvious that they are not good christians.

But, that's just this old curmudgeon's opinion...

“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain

These "Christians" are the exact same group that hung Christ. Oh, how history repeats itself! Hallelujah!

"We the people" have no voice! Otherwise, with the millions of outcries that have poured into everyone at the whitehouse environs, they would have been impeached and in prison long ago. Bush has had "his" congress in the palms of his hands by allowing them to grease their palms in a variety of ways with our tax dollars, insuring that he would never have to fear the repercussions he and his thugs should have to face. I have done all in my power to prevent and halt the evil ways of Bush/Cheney...
however, is has been a complete and total waste of my time and energy...thus far. To say I am disgusted is putting it mildly. This two-headed dictatorship that we have been existing under, has caused severe damage to our country and if something isn't done and done soon, we may never pull out from under the ruins.

FYI...I am a Christian and do NOT condone the many evils & damages "Bush the Christian" has perpetrated while calling himself a Christian...he has sullied the name!

Unless my brain is playing tricks, the prisoner is smiling and that dog is hardly "menacing," or "snarling."

What am I missing here?

Did the gov't release their least damaging photo?

Sandra, I couldn't agree more. Every day brings more news about some morally depraved act by judeo-christian fanatics who think nothing of attacking anything or anyone who gets in their way.

Personally, I bailed on "The Church" thirty years ago and it was the smartest thing I've ever done. I decided to continue my search elsewhere and found that this cat named Buddha preached a doctrine nearly identical to Christ's, and 500 years sooner. The difference is, Buddha's followers actually follow his pacifist teachings, for the most part, instead of wallowing in arrogance, ignorance and hypocrisy like our country of judeo-christian warmongering fools.

Whatever happened to the "Golden Rule" ???

Why do people have to equate morality with religion anyway? I personally have come to believe that organized religion(regardless of denomination or sect)is inherently evil.In my youth,I thought that my twisted views on religion were due to my Roman Catholic upbringing,with all of it's guilt inducing dogma.But as time went by I realized that ALL organized religions are designed to subjugate their adherants by some sort of psychological subterfuge or other for the sole purpose of gaining the material wealth that they say is jeopardizing your ascent to the "promised land",and they are all too happy to relieve you of your burden.

I say it's time to revert to the "Balkan Method"(Pitchforks and torches).After all,we outnumber the usurpers by about 1,000,000 to 1.

I agree, Dr. D. Ironically, Buddha abhorred the concept of organized religion and realized that spirituality is indeed a personal thing; that truth comes through karmic purity (kind actions and thoughts), not through doctrine or some organized fraternity of self-worshiping sycophants .

I know this is off-topic. Sorry, I'm done now.

Thanks for the insight Deja Vu,and your thoughts are not really off-topic,considering that we are trying to reconcile the rationale of our obviously misguided "leaders",ya know?

G'night,G'bless all. May the morrow be as fair as t'day. Ed

Christ's message
was very much like Buddhas, two highly enlightened men, not Gods, but men. But soon after Christ died, those in power decided that all that Buddha-like stuff that came from Christ was heresy and those that believed Christ's true message were forced into hiding with their Christ-inspired writings. They could control people much easier by hiding the truth and deceiving the masses into believing that Christ was actually God and needed to be worshiped, that the power of God wasn't within as Christ actually taught. Also, they told people they had to follow their infallible leader (the pope) and go to their churches (and don't forget to tithe) for salvation, lest their kind and loving god torture them into eternity.

It's all about control and power and wealth as already mentioned above. It is no surprise that "Christians" on a whole are such a violent and judgemental bunch of sheep. They believe a bunch of big lies, and have little hope. I'd be bitter and judgemental too if I followed lies.

Oh, and one might deny that most "Christian" are violent, as most "Christians" aren't attacking or directly killing. I believe it is mostly self-proclaimed church-going "Christians" who have been supporting these wars. Just because one supports another who does the slaughtering and didn't actually do it themselves does not mean they are not very guilty.
I believe it was Christ that said "Seek and you will find". Not many have sought and look at what they are for blindly believing lies!

I've long called these folks "Convenient Christians".
Whether the issue is torture or murder in Gitmo or Iraq they can certainly bleat like sheep listening to Rush during the week then go to church on Sunday and be good Christians.
Most of the ones I've been able to have a conversation with think that being a "Conservative" means conservative christian family values.
If they listen long enough to realize they've been pandered to by crooks and liars they can often be awakened to what is really happening.
Alas, some are lost causes and I tend to move on.

This expose beggars the question: Who told Rum Dum to go ahead and ignore the warnings?

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We all see what has conveniently destroyed the freedoms of a Republic. America was built and designed for the people who chose to live here and only the fear of the afterlife could and did destroy it. We are not the first to fall into the terrorism of demons and angels and we will not be the last. Our tribal leaders did a good job of controlling us through the old follow the leader culture and there is no doubt that when we elected Bush 43 as our family values leader he would accept the responsibility of complete control.

Of course Bush and the neoconservatives told Rum Dum to ignore the laws in the Constitution. Torture has been a human experience and cannot get it's claws into any nation without dumbing down the people under a brutal dictator.

We see so much violence in our lives and we are allowing our next generations to play brutally violent video games and watch the same horrors on television and in the movie theaters that we cannot ask them to stop what they have witnessed. The latest game is to shoot down people in commercial malls and schools.

The answer is not to ban the guns but the parents to introduce a new culture in their homes. One cannot take trained-to-kill pitbull and make him into a house pet.

America is still searching for a leader who will ask nothing of the population except for complete support. Why do we keep giving our freedoms away?

This article is the eye-opener that we Americans have failed to demand more from our leaders. We must self-educate immediately. If we cannot figure out what is true and what is spin, remember we have a well-informed leader here at CHB. Doug has exposed the hypocrisy for years without taking sides.

Sandra, I agree
100% that the solution is in the home. I also believe our educational system can help in this matter, by involving parents more and working toward common goals of teaching critical thinking skills and the importance of things like democracy and the environment. But the problem is such a high % of the population is either unconcerned or clueless. The challenge is changing these two things. They need a leader who will lead and to whom they will listen. I think the last time we had a leader who was willing to tell them what they didn't want to hear, that leader, Jimmy Carter's, popularity plummetted. I'm referring to when he told them they needed to change their consumption habits. They simply don't want to hear that just being a proud american isn't enough. And they won't vote for somebody they believe is like that. So this whole thing is a vicious cycle.

How to break that cycle I don't know, and that is frustrating.

Our public schools wouldn't even BEGIN to know how to teach critical thinking. They are perfectly designed for what they were meant to do: Dumb down the people and make them into apathetic, mindless sheep. Mission accomplished!