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June 9, 2008 - 2:24pm.

As many of you know there has been much focus concerning a growing problem of youth violence within every community

I am ready to give insight on gangs and crews operating within communities.

I have the knowledge of GANG IDENTIFIERS: DEFINITIONS, CLOTHING, GRAFFITI, INITIATIONS, HAND SIGNS, TATTOOS, and SIGNS AND SYMBOLS.

I have knowledge of GANGS GANG HISTORY, GANG LAWS, STREET GANGS, and GANGS ON
THE INTERNET, GANG SLANG, GANGS AND DRUGS.

I will provide you with some of the indicators of the presence of gangs and crews,

It is my goal to provide concern citizens the understanding, assistance along with knowledge and wisdom to determined the gangs and crews that dwells within each community, most importantly I will
Help those who lack awareness to know a youth who may be participating
In the gang culture.

It is very understandable why communities may deny that gangs, crews exist, no community wants the problem or reputation of having gangs. Yet, when the existence of gang, crew activity is being denied, it is in the gangs, crews favor, because it allows the gangs, crews to develop, get stronger in their numbers ,and most importantly develop a POWER BASE...

CLOSING:

People say ''we don't have gangs, crews in our community, this is said by the city leaders, police ,churches ,school leaders and some parents.
They say ''all we have are some wannabes". Now the reason they call them
wannabes is because if the gang isn't or didn't come from L.A. or Chicago
they are not real ..NOTHING COULD BE MORE AWAY FROM THE TRUTH ....If there are a group of youth in a community and they have banned together and call themselves a certain name ,uses signs symbols , colors ,same slang ,committing crimes ,etc...THEY ARE A GANG REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANY COMMUNITY LEADER SAYS..

I am ready to start consulting with your office as of now if you feel the WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, AND UNDERSTANDING I have on youth, gang, crew violence,
would help educate those serving the communities.

STEVEN COX...

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A question about the

A question about the service(s) you are offering, Mr. Cox? Are you soliciting business through your blog?

If so, I believe that you are in violation of CHB policy.

Most sincerely,

T. J. Flapsaddle

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Thank you for pointing that

Thank you for pointing that out to him. Blogs are for commenting and not to be used for solicitation purposes.

I guess I thought everyone knew that already but never a better time than the present to remind everyone especially new bloggers to read the rules.

This is dangeroulsy close to solicitation. Please consider this blogger and everyone else warned. Thanks.

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RichardKanePA Rep. Obama

RichardKanePA

Rep. Obama knows even more about gangs than Steven Cox,
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi...

He did community organizing work in Chicago before he went to Harvard.

If Obama becomes President, Steven may have a role to play as a government advisor

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RichardKanePA, I did a lot

RichardKanePA,

I did a lot more Googling to see what exactly Obama did to stop gang violence. The following is the closest I managed to get. Does anyone know more about his efforts back then?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/...

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Street gangs are the

Street gangs are the responsibility of the White House? Can somebody show me where in the constitution this can be found? Does he want me in Arizona to drive into his neighborhood and crack some bones to stop the violence?

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Gangs are best dealt with -

Gangs are best dealt with - IMCO - via the "coyote" rule.

Ranchers and farmers in many parts of the west can stop or at least curtail coyote predation by shooting one and hanging the carcass on a fence post and letting nature take its course. After a while, old Wile E. gets really, really gamey-smelling and the other coyotes, while not generally able to understand the nature of mortality, seem to understand that what happened to their bud isn't a good thing; therefore, they tend to quit the area, often for extended periods.

The same thing will probably work well with a street-gang. Instead of scooping up the corpse and rushing to sanitize the scene of the incident, leave it lay or even use it for a lamp-post decoration. After a day or two, when natural processes start taking hold, his "homeys" may just get the idea that dead isn't exactly glamorous and the "gangsta" life is not altogether good.

Most sincerely,

T. J. Flapsaddle

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Great post, T.J.! I

Great post, T.J.! I couldn't agree more with your suggestion. Make examples of them. They're the biggest reason I'm a proponent of concealed carry. Here in KC, they are like flies, proliferating everywhere. We need to take them out, one by one, and hang them all on the fence for their buddies to see.

Teresa

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What about the gang in the

What about the gang in the White House?

-- Kent Shaw

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That's why we have

That's why we have revolutions. As Jefferson said in the DoI, there comes a time when we must make changes. I think of a revolution as the ultimate vigilante action.

Most sincerely,

T. J. Flapsaddle

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Thank you, ma'am! What I am

Thank you, ma'am! What I am proposing is in essence a vigilante action that is in all likelihood illegal but which may be the only solution to the problem.

Most sincerely,

T. J. Flapsaddle

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"The first thing we do is

"The first thing we do is kill all the lawyers."
From Shakespeare's "Henry VI".

This proposal was not designed to restore sanity to life. It was intended to eliminate those who might stand in the way of a contemplated revolution.

-- Kent Shaw

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Sounds like good medicine

Sounds like good medicine for the neocons and crooked lobbyists. Can you spell Abramoff/Libby enablers?

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Great Idea Flapsaddle, soon

Great Idea Flapsaddle, soon our city streets will start to look like Baghdad. I guess trying to teach the next generation right from wrong is too much trouble.

Here, we have many coyotes all over our golf courses and we ignore them. They keep the rodents down. Sometimes coyotes are a step up when it comes to people.

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Sandra -- While I do not

Sandra -- While I do not endorse or agree with the coyote principle, I would like to point out that there has to be someone around to TEACH the principles of right and wrong.

In these areas, there generally isn't because they are either working like dogs just trying to survive or getting high as a kite and don't care.

Either way, the kids end up learning in much the same way the coyotes do.

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Unfortunately, most of these

Unfortunately, most of these gang members see their group as the society whose morals and ethics should be preserved; the rest of society is, to them, nothing more than prey. What Sandra Price fails to grasp is that many of our cities already have violence like Baghdad and for much the same reason.

We need to stop sanctifying the "gangsta" culture. I've heard all sorts of rationalizations for it, and none of them make sense - we just end up with more dead and injured, often the innocent, the "collateral damage" of punks warring with one another.

Vigilante groups of citizens would at least be taking back their community from the coyotes; obviously, the existing system is not doing anything effective.

Most sincerely,

T. J. Flapsaddle

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Vigilante groups of citizens

Vigilante groups of citizens would at least be taking back their community from the coyotes; obviously, the existing system is not doing anything effective.

I just don't know where to start with this.

In some respects, gangs are nothing more than vigilante groups that have filled the void of LAW and ORDER!

I agree that sanctifying the "gansta" culture through the retail market only serves to glorify something that is nothing but a life of violence, fear and death.

But my values do not endorse an eye for an eye! That is the way of animals and I thought we were a level above the animals. I realize that in some areas especially those where these cultures breed, many seem like nothing more than animals to some.

There are better answers than we are currently using or that even you suggest. The problems is stuff like this:

Justice Department Official Awards $500,000 Grant to Golf Group

A senior Justice Department official says a $500,000 federal grant to the World Golf Foundation is an appropriate use of money designed to deal with juvenile crime in America.

"We need something really attractive to engage the gangs and the street kids, golf is the hook," said J. Robert Flores, the administrator of the Justice Department's Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

The Justice Department, in a decision by Flores, gave the money to the World Golf Foundation's First Tee program, even though Justice Department staffers had rated the program 47th on a list of 104 applicants. The allegations were first reported earlier this year by the trade journal Youth Today.

In the past 8 years, the REPUBLICAN PARTY has made it perfectly clear that they view these people as insects, vermin and animals....to be captured, imprisoned and put to death.

And in the meantime, the give away VITAL, NECESSARY MONEY in some gang infested area, to one of GW's campaign contributors for a golf program. Golf -- one of the most expensive sports in America.

What are they going to do for money to buy equipment? Deal Drugs?

And when people propose programs that might actually reduce the problem they are called liberals and accused of enabling poor people. THIS IS THE REALITY OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATISM!.

We saw it in New Orleans, we've seen it in their lack of support for programs that actually help people and not corporations, and we see it once again in this BLATANT snub. He might as well be shooting poor people the finger!

I've got a better idea. Let's tar and feath George and his enablers and then stake them out on the White House lawn for all politicians to see. Since impeachment isn't going to happen, it may be the only way to get justice out of George.

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Vigilante groups by

Vigilante groups by definition act in the interest of the community at large, despite being extra-legal or illegal, in the absence of functioning civil justice. I do not agree that gangs are vigilante groups, as they represent ethics in opposition to the general community.

The citizens of a community are in a far better position than is law-enforcement to know who the goblins, are as they have to put up with them on a day-to-day basis. If they, as citizens, feel that they have no other choice to protect themselves and what remains of their community, then they are acting ethically if not strictly legally. As Jefferson wrote in the DoI, people will endure much to preserve a system, but may well reach a point where an alternative must be used because what they had is not working.

If a load of bad-boys went cruising for a "drive-by" and, at the moment they opened up, a group of citizens ambushed them, riddled their car and left them dead and dying, then the effect on the rest of the "gangsta" mentality might well be salutary in the extreme.

Yes, it is very dangerous and it is almost certainly illegal - but it may be all that is left to them.

Most sincerely,

T. J. Flapsaddle

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Vigilante groups by

Vigilante groups by definition act in the interest of the community at large, despite being extra-legal or illegal, in the absence of functioning civil justice. I do not agree that gangs are vigilante groups, as they represent ethics in opposition to the general community.

Where are most gangs located? In poor urban minority driven areas. There is not enough law enforcement officers to control the gang areas alone in our cities let along the rest of the city.

Physics says that where there is a void, something else will naturally fill it. You act as if there is a functioning civil system in the area and I say that is where you err, my colleague, THAT IS WHERE YOU ERR!

Perhaps in some fantasy land there is suppose to be, but the reality is, there most often is not.

An example, in these areas, illegal acts like drug deals are just another enterprise to make money. But if a drug deal goes bad, how is one to get justice? Call the cops and say that guy ripped me off? Get Real! No you pull out your gun, you find the SOB and you either get your money or your stuff, or you shoot the SOB. THAT IS REALITY!

Right & Wrong?! I believe that the Supreme Court ruled decades ago, that it was up to the community to decide the standards for obscenity. The same logic could be applied to the standards of justice.

There are many examples of history of gangs by any other name. The mafia, the Unions, politicians.....

Why is it ok for some to break the law and get away with it and others not to? Color? MOney? Power? If I was a poor gangster, I would just say that my gun is my justice. So do you propose to ban guns? Or just ban guns from those pre-judged not to have guns? And then who is the judge?

Violence begets violence. The coyote solution is nothing more that an eye for an eye which is the same philosophy of justice most gangs go by.

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May I suggest a County

May I suggest a County Sheriff such as we have here in Maricopa County. His name is Joe Arpaio and he is hated and respected by the residents in our area. He is the one who puts the inmates in black and white stripped uniforms with pink underwear. He moved them out of the air conditioned prisons here and moved in residents of the Animal Control kennels. The criminals are now residing in tents even during the weather of today which will be 107° We have few repeat offenders and we handle it legally and honestly not like some silly girl above suggests.

We must realize, some of us are smarter than the criminals and we need never to resort to breaking the laws to control them.

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