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May 5, 2008 - 6:47am
Sadly, the 2008 race for President has devolved into the same, useless morass that gives voters little choice, little hope and little reason to go to the polls. It makes many of us wish "none of the above" was an option on the ballot come November.
Democrats continue to maim each other in a bitter fight between Hillary Rodham Clinton and Brack Obama. Obama became the Democratic frontrunner with a campaign of hope and idealism. He called Clinton a product of "old style politics" but he has descended into the swamp of old style politics himself to try and hold on to his precarious lead in delegates and vote count.
Obama's original theme of hope faded under Clinton's relentless attacks and questions over his ties to a shady Chicago political insider, his controversial former pastor and some incredibly stupid mistakes. To fight back, he has become what he claims to oppose - a typical politician who reacts, responds and attacks. The uplifting message of hope has turned into shrill political hyperbole. This leaves voters feeling like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis and gives us the usual mixture of pabulum and sameness at the election buffet. If Clinton wins the Democratic Presidential nomination, we get a general election between two Senators who voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq. Both propose a politically-convenient but economically disastrous suspension of gasoline taxes. McCain and Clinton are more alike than different.
Clearly, the Obama of January is not the same candidate we see in May and those changes raise questions with a growing number of voters who hopped the bandwagon of hope and now look for a place to jump off before it careens off a cliff. The one word that circles each campaign like a hungry shark is "change." Each candidate offers change but as the campaign progresses it looks more and more like none can deliver. When Election Day finally arrives, we may be facing the old adage that "the more things change, the more they stay the same." Unfortunately, more of the same is an option that Americans cannot afford.
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Right on. That is why
Submitted by Stratocaster on May 5, 2008 - 8:08am.Right on. That is why people are starting to consider:
http://www.voters4ventura.com/
Doug -- the problem as I see
Submitted by pollchecker on May 5, 2008 - 8:44am.Doug -- the problem as I see it is the Supreme Court. We have several members that are ready to retire but have stayed on because of George W.
The next President may have the opportunity to change the face of our country significantly through their Supreme Court appointees.
So I for one, AGAIN, have to vote for the least objectionable candidate. It is what I have had to do, every election since I turned 18, in 1972. The future is just too important to allow another Bushie type to load up the Supreme Court.
We are up a tree without a
Submitted by Sandra Price on May 5, 2008 - 8:57am.We are up a tree without a paddle again! Doug you are absolute right on the money and it opens all kinds of doors for anyone who can simply state where we went wrong and how we correct it.
I have not been able to vote for either party in any Presidential election for many years and I'm tired of writing in someone else in fear that my ballot would be deleted if not all the positions are checked off.
Pollchecker, you bring up a very valid point that if McCain is elected our Supreme Court will represent a Theocracy which has been the focus of the GOP since Bush 41. This single fear has taken me out of the party.
Welcome to the club, Mr.
Submitted by Flapsaddle on May 5, 2008 - 10:50am.Welcome to the club, Mr. Thompson. I reached that general conclusion a number of presidential elections ago, and I reached the specific conclusion for this campaign weeks ago.
The only choices available for me will be to write in a name other than any of those likely to be on the ballot or to not cast a presidential ballot at all. In all probability my decision will be the latter, to disassociate myself from the utter corruption of the process.
There is no magic bullet.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
Our government is made up of
Submitted by Sandra Price on May 5, 2008 - 11:17am.Our government is made up of more than the White House. I extend my interest in politics to the Congress. I would think that only a change of house and senate representatives might help change the whole picture. How else can we throw the bastards out?
Doug, it would not matter
Submitted by km0591 on May 5, 2008 - 12:17pm.Doug, it would not matter even if a highly principled and effective leader were to take office. Our current political system is so saturated with militarism and corporatism that it really qualifies as "fascism lite." No leader, no matter who he or she is, will be able to withstand and remake the powerful forces that dominate the current situation.
That does not mean that there will not be change. There will certainly be change. However, the change will not emerge from the political process or leadership but, instead, will be dictated by external forces and limits. A broken military, failed, catastrophic interventions, the approach of national insolvency, failed financial systems, social unrest, and the eventual withdrawal of financial and other supports by foreign powers will eventually force the system to break and then to reconstitute in another way. What that will bring us to is anyone's guess at this point.
" ... and the eventual
Submitted by ekaton on May 5, 2008 - 12:24pm." ... and the eventual withdrawal of financial and other supports by foreign powers will eventually force the system to break and then to reconstitute in another way."
The best thing that could happen to The United States would be for foreign countries to refuse to continue to purchase U.S. debt. Then there would be no choice but to raise taxes to support wars. I believe the people would finally rebel. As long as the trillions are borrowed overseas and war taxes are not raised then the people can continue to live in comfortable denial, pretending they will not have to repay 10 trillion dollars with interest.
WE probably will not have to repay the debt. But our children and grandchildren WILL be saddled with a horrible financial legacy. They should rise up and slaughter us for what we've done to them.
-- Kent Shaw
Don't kid yourself Doug.
Submitted by travisr on May 5, 2008 - 12:31pm.Don't kid yourself Doug. Either Democratic candidate would be far and away better than the half-senile alternative, who has no inclination to draw down from the money/blood pit that is Iraq, and whose "solution" for the economy is to continue the disastrous tax cuts for the wealthy, while letting gas sky-rocket and letting our infrastructure continue to turn to s*#t. Not just that, but it's also pretty clear that McCain's new found lust for the far-right would include the continuation of torture and loss of Habeus Corpus, not to mention installation of no less than 3 new ultra-right leaning Supreme Court Justices. You know that while glaring imperfections emerge on both Clinton and Obama with each passing day, either choice is light years better than the alternative. Now is not the time to throw up our hands in disgust over the lack of an "ideal" candidate, as when it comes down to it, a far from perfect choice in one of the remaining 2 democratic choices is a desperately-needed home run victory against the unthinkable.
The fallacy of the false
Submitted by Flapsaddle on May 5, 2008 - 1:38pm.The fallacy of the false alternative: Arguing that there is a choice when there really is not. Here is a heap of fresh, steaming dog do-do, and here is a pile of hot cat crap. Now, choose the "better" of the two.
There is no choice. You are being asked to choose between two samples of fecal matter; they differ only in the species producing them and possibly the odor. But a pile of shit is a pile of shit, and no matter how much sugar you sprinkle on turds they do not become bismarcks.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
Hear Hear! Washington, D.C.
Submitted by griff on May 5, 2008 - 3:01pm.Hear Hear! Washington, D.C. - the people's litterbox. Only when you cover one turd, there is always another that surfaces. Unfortunately we haven't been able to engineer a pooper-scooper big enough big enough to clean up this mess.
Yes Griff, we had our pooper
Submitted by Sandra Price on May 5, 2008 - 4:02pm.Yes Griff, we had our pooper scooper and his name is Ron Paul. How many times do we have to toss out the scooper with the poop? What does it take to recognize a strong leader and then let him flounder in the Primaries?
There have been three times when we had such a man and none of them made it past 12% of the votes.
America likes the poop!
Not this American. Don't
Submitted by griff on May 5, 2008 - 4:43pm.Not this American. Don't worry, the scooper is in need of some fine-tuning, that's all.
At a recent Trilateral Commission meeting in Washington, Ron Paul was the subject of much conversation. He scares them, and I like it.
It seems they don't like his educating the masses, and have urged the Republican masters to get rid of him quickly, lest he educate more people.
Paul wants to get rid of the
Submitted by sherry on May 5, 2008 - 11:03pm.Paul wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve. He educated the masses this is NOT a government entity, rather run by private bankers. I did not realize this until Paul educated me.
Of course they hate Paul. I just pray he doesn't get suicided.
If he's smart he won't be
Submitted by ekaton on May 6, 2008 - 9:34am.If he's smart he won't be flying around in small airplanes. And if I saw him on my commercial flight I would get off the plane.
-- Kent Shaw
I like what I see in Paul.
Submitted by old_curmudgeon on May 6, 2008 - 1:08pm.I like what I see in Paul. But as Grif states, the people who run things don't like what they see. So, Paul is marginalized, has always been marginalized, and will stay marginalized no matter what the "voters" say. And the media puppets are going to make sure of that. Look what they did to Dean. He didn't do it to himself - the media/pundits did it. Not that he wasn't a poor choice but he was going against the grain and that never works.
Perhaps the hardest thing for people to admit is that they have no control over elections despite all the talk about the "power of the poll." It's all bullshit. We have no control and that's the way it was set up. Look at what the democraps did - SUPERDELEGATES. That means that regardless of what the "voters" say at the polls, the final decision is going to be made by the party insiders. It might even destroy the party. Wouldn't that be a just dessert!!
People like Paul, who have messages that resonate with thinking people will always be kept off the main card. And if they refuse to be marginalized then usually bad things happen. The name of the game is to keep control away from the masses and in the hands of those who think they know what is best for themselves - and have the money and power to get it.
But, as always, this is just this old curmudgeon's opinion....
Maybe we should locate a
Submitted by Sandra Price on May 6, 2008 - 5:09pm.Maybe we should locate a candidate and have him run as a regular Democrat or Republican and then when he is elected he can come out of his shell and......oh! damnit! that is what Bush did. He ran promising he would never invade another nation or enter into any nation building.
This program will never work.....I retract it.
Isn't it funny that when
Submitted by griff on May 6, 2008 - 8:40pm.Isn't it funny that when politicians break their campaign promises, it's never for the better? For once I'd like to see someone break their promise and have it be positive.
It should come as no
Submitted by Elmo on May 5, 2008 - 1:21pm.It should come as no surprise that we have a variety of mixed nuts in the bowl. I believe it was Kurt Vonnegut who pointed out the fatal flaw in our electoral system -- only a nutcase would want to be President.
T.J., I feel exactly as you.
Submitted by ekaton on May 5, 2008 - 1:58pm.T.J., I feel exactly as you. Whats the answer? I'm at a loss. Gerrymandering has made it difficult to unseat incumbents in the house and senate. I can't help feeling like gloom and doom.
-- Kent Shaw
When there is no real
Submitted by Flapsaddle on May 5, 2008 - 2:10pm.When there is no real choice, one need not pretend that there is really one and go through the motions.
If your candidate appears on the ballot, vote for him/her; if s/he does not, write in him/her; if your state does not allow a write-in, scratch out the names of both contenders and write in your choice or else the word "neither". In that way, your ballot is defaced WRT the presidential contest and neither piece of vermin can claim your vote.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
What you suggest is what I
Submitted by ekaton on May 5, 2008 - 2:23pm.What you suggest is what I intend to do, regardless of its futility. At least the blood won't be on my hands. Of course this isn't a real solution. And I can't come up with one.
-- Kent Shaw
A person convinced of his
Submitted by Flapsaddle on May 5, 2008 - 3:10pm.A person convinced of his own correctness is a majority of one - author unknown.
And there may be no solution. Let me offer this anecdote from my undergraduate days -
I was having extreme difficulty with differential equations and I had grown so frustrated that I was at the point of dropping the course. But I decided to give it one last try. Going to my instructor, Dr. Al-Bassam, the "Tiger of the Tigris", and told him my difficulty. Professor Al-Bassam reminds me much of Henry Kissinger; he had that same deep, raspy voice and that same ponderous, deliberate manner about him.
"You need to understand that we only know how to solve a half-dozen types of differential equations. Everything else we do to a problem is to try and make it look like one of those that we can solve; if we can't do that, then the problem has no solution. In that case we must be happy with an approximation and hope that someday someone will come up with a method of solving it."
That was an epiphany: Sometimes there is no solution and we may have to live with it until someone is smart enough to solve the problem. Same with our political problem, except we do not have to delude ourselves with the false hope that either charlatan will have the solution.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
Great rant, Doug. Excellent
Submitted by griff on May 5, 2008 - 3:16pm.Great rant, Doug. Excellent point concerning Obama:
We should all remember that George Bush ran in 2000 vehemently opposed to aggressive foreign policy and nation building. Here we are, eight years later, and that is the overwhelming bulk of his legacy.
It is quite possible, and highly likely, considering the President is a mere figurehead, that Obama will abandon his promises of withdrawal from Iraq should "circumstances" dictate. Then, of course, it will be the circumstances to blame and not Obama.
Both Republicans and
Submitted by Stratocaster on May 5, 2008 - 4:03pm.Both Republicans and Democrats are self-serving political machines. I don't want a new car that has all of the problems of the old car. I want a damn good mechanic.
Stratocaster: You're
Submitted by ridingchick on May 5, 2008 - 7:42pm.Stratocaster: You're kidding, right?
Obama has what it takes to
Submitted by SEAL on May 5, 2008 - 8:12pm.Obama has what it takes to do what he says. Problem is, he doesn't give that impression.
Hillary does't have what it takes, but she acts like she does.
Obama tells the truth. Hillary lies.
Are there enough Indiana idiots to understand that or will they give Hillary the spring board she thinks she needs to fight it all the way through and place the super delegates in the position of destroying the democrappy party no matter what they do? However, the only right decision they can make is to vote for the winner of the primaries and let Hillary's people scream.
Obama tells the
Submitted by sherry on May 5, 2008 - 10:59pm.Obama tells the truth.
Seriously. Give me a break.
The funniest line since "I did not have sex with that woman" is, "I did not hear any of those statements" referring to Wright. lol
No Obama doesn't lie.
"None of the above" (NOTA)
Submitted by Warren on May 6, 2008 - 1:07am."None of the above" (NOTA) is ALWAYS on every Libertarian ballot, at least internal to the party. All ballots include NOTA, from electing precinct committeemen on the county board to deciding the Presidential nominee at the national convention.
-Warren
Washington requires a
Submitted by Stratocaster on May 6, 2008 - 1:35am.Washington requires a massive overhaul, and all Obama wants to do is maintain the Democratic Party Machine. I'll vote for Jesse or Doug or both on the same ticket. Other than that, I'll stay home and turn off the TV so I don't have to listen to the empty rhetoric.
Throwing the Republicans out
Submitted by keith on May 6, 2008 - 7:59am.Throwing the Republicans out of office in favor of the Democrats come November won't really make any difference because it will simply exchange one form of corruption (and power-hungry slate of political hacks) for another.
Sadly, the "Rebublicrats" have brainwashed most of us into thinking we have no other choice at election time but to vote for one or the other of their ever-more out-of-touch political candidates.
But what's even more upsetting is that the two mainstream political parties have also now corrupted the money raising and "getting on the ballot" game in most States so that no other candidates from any other political stripe need apply.
Fortunately, there's a growing number of citizens like Doug and me who are increasingly fed up with BOTH of our mainstream political parties because far too many of their candidates are hopelessly corrupt, morally bankrupt and more than worthy of jail time.
And, all the while we continue to vote for the "lesser of two evils" that the political duopoly in our country continually dish up for us at election time, we’re just going to keep on exchanging one form of political corruption for another.
Fortunately, the Republicrat's "stack the ballot" game only works so long as we, the people, continue to buy into it. Thankfully, we still have choices at the ballot box come general election time in the only “poll” that really matters.
It's called a "write in".
And, it's going to take an absolutely massive write-in campaign to completely remove the corrupt influence of the "Republicrats" from office once and for all.
It is often said that the longest journey begins with the first few steps. Do your homework, people! There ARE worthy alternatives to the corrupt clowns now running our country into the ground! In the upcoming general election, make your vote REALLY count by sending a strong message to BOTH mainstream political parties that you are absolutely fed up with their closed electoral practices, obvious collusion and blatant corruption!