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April 30, 2008 - 7:44am
On Monday, I defended some of the controversial remarks made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Democratic Presidential frontrunner Barack Obama's bombastic former pastor. Then I watched Wright's disgusting, self-serving "all about me" performance at the National Press Club in Washington. I was wrong about Wright. The preacher from Chicago is not a committed man of God. He is a lunatic that should be committed. He not an angry American who fire comes from love of country. He is a self-promoting hack whose carefully rehearsed words come from love of himself. Wright is a fool, a buffoon and a caricature -- a Bible-thumping shyster who uses God to promote hate. Many say Barack Obama did the right thing in disowning Wright. Pundits say he threw the fire-breathing preacher under the bus. Hell, he should have been driving the bus.
Obama rolled an embarrassing 37 in bowling and got more TV exposure than the housing crisis. Do a Google search on "Iraq War" and you get 14.8 million hits. Search "Miley Cyrus" (left) and you get 14.4 million hits. The Iraq war has run for more than five years, cost more than 4,000 lives and has bankrupted the United States both financially and morally and a four-day-old uproar over a 15-year-old TV tart who posed semi-nude in a photo that looks like she just screwed the entire high school football team and which graces the cover of the new issue of Vanity Fair will, by the end of the week, rack up more hits on Google. Is this any way to run an election...or a nation...or our lives?
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Doug, we all saw truth in
Submitted by Sandra Price on April 30, 2008 - 8:28am.Doug, we all saw truth in much of Wright's words. America has turned into war machine with a lot of blood on our Constitution. America has also fallen into a giant force who has overlooked right from wrong on most of our legislation and moral values.
Rev. Wright tried to open the racism in America and end up leading "his" people as MLK did so many years ago. He found his patsy and tried to take him down. He may have succeeded; we will never know until the primaries are over.
Your RANT this morning represents what the majority of us know to be true. Thank you for it.
I cannot explain Miley Cyrus as I never heard of her before this week. I'm sure that she is now the model for American teenagers to take off their clothes and made money. Parents are throwing their own kids under the bus when they allow this kind of model mentor to invade their homes.
With this kind of culture growing in America, it is absolutely necessary to keep abortions legal.
Sandra, You have an
Submitted by Jeffers on April 30, 2008 - 11:42am.Sandra,
You have an unbelievable ability to take a valid point and twist it into an unrecognizable state.
If you want to attack the immorality of our nation and our culture, how do you use that to support abortion? Sometimes you have to take responsibility for your mistakes in life. Let's not enable even more people, encouraging bad behavior.
Jeffers
Peace without freedom is still slavery.
I am pro-choice politically
Submitted by Sandra Price on April 30, 2008 - 12:49pm.I am pro-choice politically but pro-life personally. That must be too difficult for you to understand. The government is the enemy and so far they have no authority over abortions.
I have spent years working with at-risk teens and far too many abortions were done because of incest. Get off your white horse, Don Quixote, your daughter is in trouble.
My daughter is in
Submitted by Jeffers on April 30, 2008 - 5:18pm.My daughter is in trouble?
That implies that I have been having sex with her! I strongly resent that comment.
Jeffers
I made no such assumption.
Submitted by Sandra Price on April 30, 2008 - 9:26pm.I made no such assumption.
Jeffers & Sandra: Take this
Submitted by Doug Thompson on May 1, 2008 - 5:52am.Jeffers & Sandra:
Take this offline.
Jeffers, use this forum to a poster again and you will be history.
Doug
Isn't child pornography
Submitted by griff on April 30, 2008 - 12:01pm.Isn't child pornography illegal in this country?
A little eye-opener on Iraqi casualty figures. The death toll tallies deaths on the battlefield, therefore deaths that occur later in hospitals aren't tallied as deaths, but in the overall casualty figures. Some have estimated the real death toll to be between 8,000 and 12,000 American servicemen and women lost in Iraq.
Exactly right. There has to
Submitted by ekaton on May 1, 2008 - 9:50am.Exactly right. There has to be a way to accurately determine how many Americans have died in Iraq or as a direct result of Iraq. No, I didn't mention Iraqi deaths. Its horrendous. It was 660,000 some according to one study, but that must not be true because Chimpy said he didn't find that number credible, because his gut feelings outweigh accepted statistical analysis techniques. Even if we did find out its 12,000 and not 4,000 what would we do? Sit around and complain or take direct action and I do NOT mean "demonstrate" or "march"?
-- Kent Shaw
Doug, I was not happy with
Submitted by Janice on April 30, 2008 - 12:02pm.Doug,
I was not happy with the words Rev. Wright spoke in his grandstanding speeches. I, too, was wrong. His words made me very uncomfortable. Senator Obama did what he felt he had to. Enough of it all now. It is time to dig in and get back to the REAL issues facing this country.
And, shame on Miley Cyrus' parents for letting her pose like this. It is totally inappropriate, and poor judgement on the part of the magazine, too. ...almost as bad as the sick perverts in the latest Texas cult.
If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything.
Mark Twain
Another truly popcorn
Submitted by Flapsaddle on April 30, 2008 - 12:12pm.Another truly popcorn moment, sir. Thank you for a most excellent Rant. The names and the faces change, but the rank stupidity is eternal.
When I was much much younger, I remember my mother telling me how disgusted she was, during the latter part of World War Two, over the popular obsession with Frank Sinatra's first child and over the marriage of actress Betty Grable to band leader Harry James - at a time when my dad, her brother, several cousins and friends were serving overseas.
I may not completely agree with your assessment of Rev. Wright; he speaks some uncomfortable truths to the powers that be. Perhaps if more ministers had been less interested in being "patriotic Americans" and in being followers of the Word, we might not be in some of the mess we are in right now.
Before the current brouhaha, what were we ensorcelled by? Has the FLDS child-brides and child-mothers drama yet played out its bit? Britney Spears on the downward, out-of-control spiral of a young woman uninterested in her children and unable to handle wealth, fame and ceaseless public attention? Or was it Paris Hilton, she of the missing underwear and with a taste for drones in male companionship? What of Anna Nicole Smith, gold-digger extraordinary? What of our obsession with the Pouting Princess, the late Diana?
It doesn't change. We are always looking for the bread-and-circuses spectacle du jour that will allow us a moment's diversion from the really serious problems of life. As soon as this one recedes into the background noise of our lives, yet another one will appear to divert us yet again.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
Frank Sinatra was the most
Submitted by Sandra Price on April 30, 2008 - 1:07pm.Frank Sinatra was the most popular singer in America and he gave many performances at the Hollywood Canteen for the soldiers. We loved him and when he wrote "Nancy with the Laughing Eyes" for his baby, we loved him to sing it.
Betty Grable was the sweetheart of our armed forces and she too became part of traveling all over the world where our soldiers were. She married her orchestra conductor and they had a wonderful life for many years. I remember both of them with their charity work at Hollywood Park Racetrack and eveyone who belonged to the Jockey Club paid a lot of money for our troops. It's funny how different people are when judging others. I would bet that if your mother was out with the Hollywood when they pitched to help wim WW2, she would have a more honest opinion.
The list of Hollywood stars who joined up with our armed forced was incredible. Even Duke Wayne was told he would be more effective if he made whose wonderful films of that time. I was there Flap and you know it. But of course Hollywood would always take the brunt of jealous people. I would bet your mother read "Confidential Magazine" so nothing would pass her unnoticed.
Most of us have given up trying to tell the truth about Hollywood. Americans love a good scandal; whether it is true or not.
You were nine when the war
Submitted by Flapsaddle on April 30, 2008 - 1:34pm.You were nine when the war began and 13 when it ended; therefore, I do not really see you as having "been there" for it.
My mother worked at the AAF base west of town and when she got home she had three kids to take care of; AFAIK, she had little time for gossip magazines.
People like Clark Gable, Tyrone Power, Jimmy Stewart and Gene Autry served and served well, while offal like Marlon Brando were faking psychiatric conditions to avoid service. Even actress Hedy Lamar made a magnificent contribution, inventing one of the first frequency-key shifted encryption systems (based on the keys on a piano).
The flap over a non-server like Sinatra and his child, and/or Grable and hubby, was a distraction from reality and of no real importance to the war effort. It certainly carried no weight with one uncle who left a few feet of small bowel at Bastogne, another uncle who lost most of his teeth at St. Vith, an older cousin who left his young life at Metz, or my father, who passed through the hell of Okinawa and Shuri Castle.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
I was not in the war but
Submitted by Sandra Price on April 30, 2008 - 3:33pm.I was not in the war but knee deep in the Hollywood Scene. The James family had a box next to my grandmother at Hollywood Park and would sometimes bring their little kids. They brought their oldest girl to Westlake (my school) but they could not get her in.
You speak as an outsider who automatically despises Hollywood, I guess had I not been in it, I might feel the same way. I am also enamoured with live theater actors and opera singers who I have never met.
I know a lot about the personal things that Frank and Barbara did for some heavy duty charities. They both helped getting young children out of the hands of their incestuous family members.
We are not talking about our family members who did make the grand sacrifice but your mother's opinions of Hollywood stars.
I worked for several years in the Information Booth at the Hearst Castle and the questions I got were so vile about the visitors from Hollywood that I simple ended up saying "I don't know about that." Maybe I helped your mother.
Most older people have a fetish with celebrities and they will believe anything to make a good story. These people are all dead and yet when I hear terrible things about them I should just shrug, consider the course, and walk away. They told terrible stories about my god father and they were all true. He was the wizard of Oz; in public I would never admit it.
I do not despise Hollywood,
Submitted by Flapsaddle on April 30, 2008 - 4:20pm.I do not despise Hollywood, I simply refuse to be enthralled by the hype and drivel that is ninety-eight percent of what it is. I feel no need to defend it or to especially damn it. It's like warts - it's a part of life but you do not need to obsess over it.
I was referring to the reason why my mother - and apparently a lot of other ordinary people of the time - were incensed at the gushing and cooing over entertainment personalities who risked nothing more than a broken nail or sore throat, while their families were serving in harm's way.
Same thing today. Too many are all a-twitter over some airhead who couldn't pour piss out of a boot - as if anything they did were of real import - while we have our people dying and our treasury emptied. Our host simply points out our interest in bread and circuses while the world falls down around us.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
Flap. What a snob you are!
Submitted by Sandra Price on April 30, 2008 - 9:47pm.Flap. What a snob you are! No need to piss on the parade of others. Most Americans who live in the world of movies do tend to worship pop stars, actors and the like. Only a snob tries to take the wind out of other's sails.
Go picket something that offends you and then take a shower so you don't offend anyone else. Real people have no need to stamp on others. Many of us are damn sick of the corruption in D.C. that when an honest man appears, we do get excited. These people with their enthusiasm did not start the wars it was likely people who sit on their asses and criticize everyone else.
Do you really believe our soldiers want Americans to stop living, stop loving and stop all interest in the arts because your ass is out of joint?
Yes a lot of people in the world mourned the death of Princess Diana. She was that light of beauty that shone on the people of Great Britain. Go hide under a table and worry about your own lack of love for the arts and shut the hell up about those who entertain.
I didn't stop reading my books when Bush took us illegally into Iraq. I didn't stop doing water therapy for the elderly here in my development either. I didn't stop thinking about the warnings I handed out and none of you gave a damn and supported the most evil corrupt man in our White House. Your arrogance will never see the truth about yourself and your stamping out the hope and enthusiasm of many Americans. Oh hell, I'll probably get booted out of here but I am so sick of your selfish arrogance I needed to get this off my chest so I can enjoy my evening.
All right you two -- THAT'S
Submitted by Doug Thompson on May 1, 2008 - 5:49am.All right you two -- THAT'S ENOUGH!!!
I don't maintain this web site so the two of you can use it for your own little wars and pissing contests. If you want to fight each other, do it off line.
Barack Obama's comments
Submitted by JerryG on April 30, 2008 - 12:18pm.Barack Obama's comments yesterday about the Rev were spot on! There is nothing that I have seen in the character of Obama or his campaign that even remotely resembles the angry-chip-on-his-shoulder Rev who believes his fellow blacks have been nothing short than a victim of whitey and the government their entire lives!
I hope from this point on Barack chooses not to opine any further on the Rev or his beliefs and stays focused on the mission at hand.
An off-topic question for
Submitted by Flapsaddle on April 30, 2008 - 2:37pm.An off-topic question for our host.
You mentioned yesterday that you did portrait photography. Do you still use silver-emulsion/wet chemical/darkroom technology, or are you all digital? Just curious.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
I haven't been in a darkroom
Submitted by Doug Thompson on May 1, 2008 - 2:04pm.I haven't been in a darkroom since 1999. That was the year I switched to digital and I haven't been back.
Long ago, in a galaxy far,
Submitted by Flapsaddle on May 1, 2008 - 3:35pm.Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away...
...I apprenticed as a photographer/photoengraver while in HS; it paid for my undergraduate college.
The last time we moved - about 8 years ago - I cleaned out an old trunk I/we had hauled around for many, many years. Inside it was an unopened package of 8 x 10 Kodabromide paper, an unopened can of Dektol developer, and some old darkroom trays.
I guess that's another technology overcome by events, the latest "buggywhip" business.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
Slick move, Doug. Nice
Submitted by griff on April 30, 2008 - 3:22pm.Slick move, Doug. Nice redirect. Back away from your support as soon as Obama does while steering the conversation in another direction.
After beating this dead horse to dust in emulation of the reviled mainstream, now all of a sudden you have an epiphany.
Griff. It is a combination
Submitted by Sandra Price on April 30, 2008 - 3:55pm.Griff. It is a combination of a good mind and compassionate heart. Doug is the first one to show he was wrong.
Can we all get along? Is
Submitted by ridingchick on April 30, 2008 - 6:21pm.Can we all get along? Is that too much to ask for?
Obama for President '08
HaHa...Rodney King for
Submitted by griff on April 30, 2008 - 6:29pm.HaHa...Rodney King for President!
Passions are running high.
Submitted by sherry on April 30, 2008 - 6:40pm.Passions are running high. The Hillary camps and the
Obama camps hate each other. One can't imagine voting for the other. I can't stand the sound of Obama's voice. I would venture to say most (especially my friend Sandy Price) feels the same way about Hillary.
Obama was bound to disappoint. He was treated as the next Messiah. No human being can live up to that. The Hillary people are a little more pragmatic. Yup, she has warts. We pretty much know all the dirt. We know she is corrupt, but she has a record. Her husband didn't do a bad job as president. She is the devil we know.
Obama just doesn't have much of a record. He makes great speeches. It's sort of the dreamy crowd vs the realists.
And dang it, I am beyone angry for being told if I vote for Hillary, I am a racist. Therefore, if Obama gets the nomination, the Hillary supporters are completely alienated.
Sad, but true.
You hit it on the nail
Submitted by Sandra Price on April 30, 2008 - 9:57pm.You hit it on the nail Sherry. But there's one thing we all can say is that we care! We love America and we know what is the right thing to do. My emotions are on "Danger" but this happens every two years when the Congress get thrown out or reelected. My kids understand this two-year mania that is me. Every 4 years they know better than to even call prior to November.
You're no racist and neither am I. I want something new even if it is unknown in the white house.
I have to share something with you. The GOP is now splitting into another realm of politics. The religious right now wants the Constitution Party to run because they are focussing on the prohibitions. So we will have one hell of a November coming up. If we lived closer I would make a bet with you for dinner whether Obama or Hillary gets the gold ring.
I would buy you dinner any
Submitted by sherry on May 1, 2008 - 8:23am.I would buy you dinner any day, Sandra! My poor mother has gotten so emotionally involved, she and I take turns watchinfg TV. The night of PA primary, I just went for a drive. Mom called on the cell and said, go on home, she's winning. During the TX primary, she didn't turn on the TV until 11:30 PM lol
I began writing her congressional representatives in her name last year (they ditch the letter if it has an out of district address). Suddenly, my dear mother is being invited to all these hoity toity parties. She just figured it out last week lol She is having a blast.
"a 15-year-old TV tart who
Submitted by pondering_it_all on May 1, 2008 - 5:48am."a 15-year-old TV tart who posed semi-nude in a photo that looks like she just screwed the entire high school football team"
Funny, I don't see a "TV tart" in that photo. I see an innocent girl who has just discovered how it feels to be violated by people she thought she should trust. If you bothered to read anything about her situation, you would understand the controversy. It isn't about some salacious publicity scheme to use almost-kiddy-porn to advance her career or make money by her parents. Her parents were on the set for hours and then had to leave her under the supervision of her publicist and agent. They were the responsible adults who failed to protect Ms. Cyrus when the famous photographer and Vanity Fair crew urged them to go along with the "art photos". Her parents never would have allowed it, and the photographer knew that!
This girl is a victim of unprincipled adults who have damaged her career for their own pleasure and gain. As far as I am concerned, they are not much better than the pimps who sell children to pedophiles. Including her photo and referring to her as a tart in an otherwise unrelated story was a cheap shot. Pick on somebody your own size, Doug!
This "innocent girl" as you
Submitted by Doug Thompson on May 1, 2008 - 5:56am.This "innocent girl" as you describe her told Vanity Fair that her favorite TV show was the HBO series "Sex And The City."
I stand by what I wrote.
"Wright is a fool, a buffoon
Submitted by pollchecker on May 1, 2008 - 10:14am."Wright is a fool, a buffoon and a caricature -- a Bible-thumping shyster who uses God to promote hate."
Doug -- I thought our country put someone just like this in the WH in 2000 and again in 2004.