The more Hillary lies and continues to degrade Obama, the more votes will be cast for McCain. There is not an ounce of integrity in either of them. When Rove gets is grubby hands on Obama, the GOP will set him on fire, with pride. America is sicker than any of us realize.

The American people have had a chance to elect decent and honorable men for President but missed the boat several times. Why should any of us work for honest candidates when the voter reject in the Primaries?

And the media for the most part are simply reporting the "cover" and letting it go as if it was plausible. Is it time to repeal the section of the first amendment that allows freedom of the press? If they aren't going to carry out the mission, why give them the privilege? So when we do the amendment to the amendment, is there anyone else, besides Doug, who gets to keep it?

There is no such thing as an "honest candidate!" The very nature of the beast completely rules out the possibility of honesty, and integrity. Those attributes are only used to get elected and to stay elected and are only skin deep, at most.

My question to the press/media: Why don't you all call it what it is? She lied. Lied. Why don't one of you "reporters" ask her, to her face, why she lied. Ask her why she should expect us to believe anything else she says. Ask her why she should expect us to vote for her, a liar. Ask her why we (those who believe he only lies when he talks) should look at her differently than we do George Bush.

As with race - the press is afraid to address the issue head on. Call her a liar. It's what she is. And McCain. And Obama, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

IIRC, Bill Buckley once commented on the inherent dishonesty of some left-leaning female scribbler, saying something like "everything she says is a lie, including and and the." Clinton was obviously trying to embellish her resume, especially the part about being ready for that three a. m. call, when she tried to present herself as having been "under fire." Unfortunately, she seems to have forgotten that there was probably a record of the event that would be rather less partisan in its exposition of the facts.

So, now that the fact has jumped up to bite the myth in the ass, Clinton is going to try and ignore the problem after having condescendingly tried to dismiss it as nothing more than her having simply misspoken; like the ostrich with head buried, she will not see a problem so there is no problem. But the bloom is off of the Clinton rose, she has used up her quota of flaccid excuses - that she was "unaware" of hubby's amorous excursions, that a vast right-wing conspiracy was the source of all the problems - and no one is going to give her a pass on this one.

I'd think that some up-and-coming reporter might do what an upwardly-mobile Dan Rather once did to Nixon and flat out put her on the spot about her honesty and say - the word lie doesn't have to be used - "Senator Clinton, why did you make that claim about being under fire when you knew that the situation was otherwise?"

But that will not happen, because no reporter wants to risk the consequences of such a direct question lest fate decree that Clinton eventually get the nomination and win the election. Then, having treated in such a cavalier fashion the woman who feels she is owed a presidency, what would be his chances of being invited for coffee and a soft-ball interview in the Oval Office?

Most sincerely,

T. J. Flapsaddle

Why are we only focusing on Hillary? Obama acts like he wrote legislation, but never put pen to paper and wouldn't know a bill if it bit him on the ass hard. McCain thinks spending five years in the Hanoi Hilton makes him qualified to be president and couldn't find his ass with both hands. Not a damned one of them is worth a hill of beans in my estimation and I wish they'd all go away. I'm frankly damned sick and tired of them all. McCain is just an extension of President Retard. Obama is going to be a nice guy who will be four years of worse than Jimmy Carter, totally inept. And Hillary will be Bill all over again - well managed, well hidden conmen that we won't find out about until she's all done and out of office.

I think the bigger story is the fact that reporters like Andrea Mitchell were there in Bosnia with the Clinton group, but said nothing even after Sinbad was bashed by the Clinton camp for saying it was bullshit.

I figure Sheryl Crow said nothing, because she is probably a Clinton supporter, but why the silence from these reporters? Are they Clinton supporters too? Were they holding on to the story until the general election?

They should be getting their assess kicked too.

Hi Sandra Price et. al. ...

Reference to lying pol competitors driving voters to John McCain.

Right now as I write this, they're airing a speech by John McCain, supposedly a live CNN broadcast. Everything he's stating about the conditions in Iraq are a lie...realtime; ie., now. He's also babbling that it's our responsiblity to build democracies throughout the Middle East and Asia on our taxpayer dime and time. It's the same old lying crap coming out of a DC pol's mouth no different than LBJ's babbling about "winning the hearts and minds" of SE Asians at the expense of 58,000 plus American lives when in reality it was about corporate welfare for the MIC and to hopefully secure SE Asia's oil fields for the oil patch oligarchs.

Everytime McCain pauses and gets even a weak handclap from the peanut gallery this tragic presidential wannabe gets that goofy, crapped in his diaper grin along with an almost maniacal "twinkle" in his eye that seems to be his trademark...:)) He's also cursed with an annoying speaking voice.

His audience must be filled with wealthy AARP'rs; ie., the I've got mine and to hell with everyone else crowd as they recklessly rat around America's highways in behemoth, fuel-guzzling RV's. I'm sure stealing Middle Eastern oil reserves sounds like a "plan" to them...no?! : |

I had to change channels when McCain started waxing poetically about our national mandate to support all these pseudo-democracies that are nothing but puppets to the US as long as we prop up their despot leaders. These US sponsored duty puppets hold rigged elections for their unwashed masses. Musharraf of Pakistan is an example. Reagan/Bush helped arm Pakistan with nukes in the 80's, then Senate leaders like McCain no doubt and others see the need to feed $10 billion per annum to guys like him to protect the weapons they should not have had in the first place. Much of it has ended up in Musharaff's offshore accounts along with kickbacks to those in our politburo that support him and others throughout this worldwide U.S. sphere of contrived influence.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/11/51012/272

This scenario goes on in many other places within the MIC sponsored U.S. Empire. We have 700 bases in over 100 countries. Rest assured most if not all of the leaders in this countries are getting their palms greased courtesy of our rogue, out of control government. Our nations tax revenues evidently are their personal funds to use and squander as they see fit.

To elect John McCain will be an act of national seppuku as far as I'm concerned though not a suicide predicated on a sense of honor, but one of a nation of simps who like to play with knives and aren't cleared for such activity.

There's only one candidate that offers America somewhat of a seachange and to break the stranglehold of the Bush/Clinton Axis of lies and evil. Surely the alternative candidate is not John McCain.

Carl Nemo **==

And you really think Mr. "Change/No Real Change" Obama is a viable candidate? If so, I know where there is a bridge for sale. Course, like all bridges in this country, it needs serious repairs, but if you close your eyes and hum....

Jeez.

Well put, Carl. I don't get cable TV, having worked in the biz, but I saw some of McCrazy's speech this morning at my local coffee stop. One of the scariest speeches I have ever seen. I stood there and watched as this imbecile lied and spewed endless kaka, distortions and non-stop propaganda, even loonier than Bush/Cheney Inc. and seemingly aimed at driving us to war with Iran. What was even scarier were all the red-state morons around me who were salivating like rabid dogs; it was just what their born-again Christian ears were burning to hear. And I'll bet Hillary is working on a similar speech, for all the radical feminists and blue-staters, not to be outdone by McCrazy. I think I can almost hear the cheers coming from Israel, too.

Just a little snapshot of my morning in redneck-ville, in case you thought things were getting better. They ain't.

The Clintons will NEVER tell the truth when a lie will do.. When will the sheeple grow up and use their own God given brains and see this woman for what she is.. At ANY cost to anyone else ,she will stay in the race and seperate the democratic party for good. She feels this presidency ie OWED her . for what reason is beyond my own thinking.. If she gets the nomination by some sort of illegal shennagins as the last elections occured.. I vote for NO ONE and I bet there are millions out there who cannot stand a liar. I would rather have dinner with a murderer..Liars do so on purpose and reveal their true being in doing so... her character will fall apart under the scrutiny of any sharp mind and may I add.. when this side of hell will she answer a question honestly when put to her and not turn the subject to how wonderful she is...In her own minds eye . I detest the woman....

Anybody notice that this story didn't resonate enough for the press to slam it down the public's throat like the Rev. Wright story?

Maybe we're so desensitized to the Clinton's lying...it's just one more added to the stockpile.

Sooooooooo...the media isn't cashing in like they expected and they've let the story go.

This whole election has now turned into a contest to see who can tell more lies than the current "Prevaricator in Chief".

So far, it would appear that Mrs. Clinton is leading the pack.

Well, gee, Austin, Hillary walking across the tarmac waving and smiling isn't nearly as emotion invoking as some black preacher screeming "God Damn America." Hers requires comentary and explanation while his pretty much speaks for itself. No effort required. And lets not forget who owns the media also backs Hillary.

And, Keith, maybe I have missed somerthing. Exactly what lies has Obama uttered?

We know Hillary is a liar. I wrote about her weaknesses years ago and yet few remember the expose I did on her working with the teacher's unions. Her plans were to ignore academics and teach how we all must get together and love each other. My girls went through this in the 60s too, but grew out of is when they hit the Universities and saw the hippies in action.

McCain has little respect in Arizona but, being the only Republican, he will no doubt win the electoral voters here. But then I live in a senior development and when these folks retire, it is the brain that goes first.

I find McCain and Hillary way too cocky for the White House. They will use their Oval Office power like a club over the American people. This is an action we have seen from both Bushs in office and one I will not accept again. So who is left? Barack Obama! He is bright enough not to take advantage of his power knowing he represents the majority of voters who do not want the same old itshay coming from the White House.

I'm troubled by the many Evangelicals who vote and see the color of Barack's skin as the mark of Cain and try to take him out for Jesus Christ. America is a sick nation to the core and probably will not survive much longer.

Carl Nemo

As I said, I hate all three choices.

I find it interesting that Obama had no voice about racism during the Duke Rape and Jena 6 cases. But when his pastor is involved, all the sudden he needs to talk about racism. This to me rings false. If you're concerned about racism, you speak out about it in all cases, not just when it hurts your campaign. Oh, and he will be a disaster as a president and we will have 12 years of republican greed that will exceed the greed of Reagan/Bush I once Obama's four years of disaster ends.

Yes, Hillary is a liar, we know. You have broken the damned drum. Enough already. She isn't going to win. Or are you afraid she might?

McCain is growing senile fast, and his increasing senility will probably insure that if he does manage to win the White House, he will not hold the presidency long and his vice president (God I hope it's not) Condi Rice, will take over.

All three candidates are disasters. Unfortunately I don't have any feasible replacements because anyone I might suggest would probably laugh and say "no frikken way", which if you think about it, is the only reasonable response.

After all, who in their right mind would want to follow President Retard?

Hi Siannan...

Thanks for your feedback.

As far as having fears that Hillary might win; you bet I do!

I know far too much about Bush~Clinton methods for acquiring power in high places.

I've written much about the fact that the presidency of the United States has been compromised by a CIA/Skull and Bones cabal.

They've been working on the operation for a long time, most intensively so, starting with the Kennedy assassination. You can discount my thoughts as being that of a crackpot conspiracy theorist, but I'd advise you taking the time to read my thoughts on a post to Maggie Van Ostrand's blog; ie., "A News Ruse" posted about six days ago. I'll supply the link for your convenience.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/4927

You are correct in that I've possibly beaten the head off my drum, but if I can hopefully awaken the electorate as to what they are up against then the drumbeat will be worth a warehouse full of them. : | The Clintons are not ordinary political adversaries in any sense of the word.

My concern about McCain getting elected is simply due to white's with race related "head issues" voting for the "white man" again; somehow feeling safe with this mattoid...not! John McCain is an accident waiting to happen relative to well-being and security of the United States and the entire world at large. He's senile and quite possibly nuts too and will use the presidency as if it were his personal kingdom and toilet bowl...! He also has a very nasty temper that when publicly displayed is quite distasteful to anyone with all their oars in the water. There's nothing "cool" about John McPain...!

http://www.electricnevada.com/pages00/mccain.htm

Again, thanks for your thoughts even if we have differences in opinion concerning Obama's fitness for the presidency.

Carl Nemo **==

Keith: it was I and not Carl who asked you the question "exactly what lies has Obama uttered?"

You could not answer the question because he hasn't lied about anything. The answer you gave, "Give them enough time and they ALL become liars!" was very disapointing coming from you.

The very foundation of Obama's campaign for the presidency is truth in government. Were he to lie about something he would be totally discredited.

What disturbs me is all of this blanket commenrting that is going on by so many people. They ALL do this or that - they're ALL bad - and so on. These are only expressions of personal feelings and not always true based upon performance or fact.

I consider this overemotional reactionism of stating that "I will not vote" or I'll cast my vote for Donald Duck to be shirking ones responsibility to get the best possible person in the White House of those choices we do have. In this case, it becomes more obvious each day that that person is Barak Obama. You may not think he is the right person for the job. I don't either. I don't think there is one available for us to select. But, of the three choices, he is by far and away the best and, therefore, it is our responsibility to make sure he is the one that wins the primary, nomination, and national election.

The glass isn't half empty. It may not be half full either. But it sure as hell isn't empty.