John McCain is betting big on Iraq

We're flat dead broke! If

Submitted by Carl Nemo on March 24, 2008 - 3:31am.

We're flat dead broke! If our creditors decide to pull the plug on the USD, we're dead meat as a nation. The USD is the worlds reserve currency but not for much longer.

Once the world currency system is divided up between the Euro and the Yen/Yuan as being the defacto reserve currencies we are going to roll over and die like slugs in the noonday sun as a nation.

Just like the Ruskies in the post cold war era ended up with their submarine and surface fleets rusting away in port, so too as a nation we'll be rusting in port in more ways then one.

People like Bush, McCain and even Clinton et. al. are simply nuts to think we can continue this resource grab in the Middle East. Soon it will be the last hurrah for America's once mighty military along with its fading influence in world politics. When the dollar implodes we won't have enough money to buy bunker fuel for our navy. We'll no longer control the high seas as in the past. It's a fact that any nation who cannot exert summary control of the seas is soon to fall into the category of an also ran power. Of course we have nuclear powered vessels, but their cost is prohibitive to build them in great numbers.

The Chinese are building a fleet of state of the art diesel-electric subs that rival our best nuke boats in quiet prop techology. They cost about 30 million USD per sub to build whereas our high tech nuke boats like the Sea Wolf class USS Jimmy Carter SSN23 cost 2.6 billion to initally build then retrofit for special missions. That's 2,600 million dollars for one boat!? The Chinese can crank out over 80 d/e's for that amount armed with Russian rocket torpedo technology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter
http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/sub/yuan.asp

http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldie...

There's no countermeasure for such technology except reincarnation. My point is a cheap-butt state of the art d/e launching a nuclear tipped Shkval at our super expensive nuclear carriers or even our subs will put an end to our vaunted, but mostly imagined high seas supremacy.

I guess if our madmen and women in D.C. want to wage war they have to outsource our defense to China or Russia since they evidently know how to get "bang for the ruble or yuan" when it comes to cost effective weaponry... /:|

Of course most of the vapidly grinning vets that are wildly handclapping for John McPain never pay attention to facts such as these. They are living many years in the past, supported by defective memories as a function of onset Alzheimers or other brain related maladies. The greatest generation is no longer banging on all cylinders to say the least. If the Nam era guys are supporting him, then they too either have fading or failing memories and have done little serious research concerning that war too, no different than the one in which are currently engaged.

The post WWII/Korea America is long since dead. Nam was the first of the engineered wars simply for the purpose of enriching the MIC, then Gulf War I, and now this nation destroying monstrosity in which we are now engaged, both ours and Iraq. These engineered wars have destroyed our once great nation and have dropped us into a "black hole" of unpayable debt due to compound interest, dwindling manufacturing infrastructure and the massive outsourcing of jobs thanks to our congress now simply a version of the former sovietski "politburo"; ie., a bunch of hand-clapping drooling simps with little spine or stomach to challenge our leaders. They've got theirs so to hell with the rest of us, but not for much longer.

Carl Nemo **==

Hagel cool on backing McCain

Submitted by pollchecker on March 24, 2008 - 8:50am.

Hagel cool on backing McCain

Citing foreign policy differences, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), one of his party’s biggest critics of the Iraq war and a co-chair of Sen. John McCain’s 2000 presidential campaign, indicated Sunday that he is in no rush to endorse the Arizona Republican this time around.

Good for Senator Hagel. Now that he is retiring from the Senate, he can actually vote and act his conscious without being subjected to the steal and spend REpublican arm twisting.

I love it when a politician tells the truth. Check this out!

“How much further do we have to look than look at the Democratic candidates for president?” Hagel asked. “We’re either going to have an African-American man or a woman. Both unprecedented. A hundred years ago, women in this country couldn't vote, George. Up until the mid-'60s, an African-American had very little prospects for going very high in the political system. The Democratic Party will field one of those two people.

“On the Republican side, we have a so-called, kind of maverick by many definitions, a good friend of mine. Dear friend of mine, as a matter of fact. He will be the oldest person we would ever elect to the presidency,” Hagel said. “So when you talk about reorientation, I don’t think you need to go much beyond just the field of candidates that the American people are going to choose from as to who’s going to lead this country.”

Senator Hagel is one of the Senators who crossed party lines for the good of Americans in Iraq. If he isn't supporting McCain's candidacy, that tells you something about John McCain.

McCain On Iraq: "We're

Submitted by pollchecker on March 25, 2008 - 10:45am.

McCain On Iraq: "We're Succeeding. I Don't Care What Anybody Says"

We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says. I've seen the facts on the ground," the Arizona senator insisted a day after a roadside bomb in Baghdad killed four U.S. soldiers and rockets pounded the U.S.-protected Green Zone there, and a wave of attacks left at least 61 Iraqis dead nationwide.

Sound familar? Same words have come out of the mouths of: GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld....need I continue?

Remember, Be sure to reelect Bush/McCain in 2008! Spending $4566 per second in Iraq! Bumper Stickers coming soon!

I'm coming the absolute,

Submitted by Carl Nemo on March 25, 2008 - 12:22pm.

I'm coming the absolute, final conclusion that John McPain is truly off his rocker...!

Carl Nemo **==

They call it SENILITY and it

Submitted by pollchecker on March 25, 2008 - 12:26pm.

They call it SENILITY and it is usually associated with OLD AGE! (wink)

Hi pollchecker... My

Submitted by Carl Nemo on March 25, 2008 - 1:11pm.

Hi pollchecker...

My apologies for ommitting the "to" before "the" in my comment about McCain. I was in the process of editing it when you must have posted to your blog in response to my comment.

I feel somewhat sorry for conservative Republicans that have had their party hijacked by the NWO~H.W. Bush sponsored PNAC, Vulcan cabal. Rest assured there are many rank and file republicans that don't align themselves with this ongoing mindless nonsense as McCain is spouting; ie., to stay in Iraq a 100 plus years if necessary etc.

So in a way they are in the same fix as most Democrats; ie., having to choose between Hillary and Barak. I personally think Barak will work out just fine, but then again who knows for sure. Four years in office is a dangerously long time for "we the people" to find out they've made the wrong choice again.

When you get down to the heart of the matter, the electorate really doesn't have a true populist candidate who's not beholding to the shadowy power elite in some fashion. Even Obama is a CFR member as just about anyone else that's on the New/One World Order bandwagon.

I'm sure many republicans feel shame for having to witness McCain come forth and basically rubber stamp the last 7+ years of Bush/Cheney's world destabilizing policies.

Watching him on his Middle Eastern/Euro tour is a hoot. He's shuffling around "stoop-shouldered" with Joe Lieberman and Lindsay Graham, also two legislative losers as far as I'm concerned. All three of them make my skin crawl...!

I thought I'd supply a link from Anti-War.com. It's a 2001 article concerning McCain who's not only a danger to the U.S., but the world at large. There is something definitely wrong with John McCain and Americans will be quite foolish to even want to find out what a monster he just might be.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2974

Carl Nemo **==

JM is not senile. He just

Submitted by pollchecker on March 25, 2008 - 1:21pm.

JM is not senile. He just learned in 2000, that if you want the nomination you have to kiss the behinds of the political powers that control the steal and spend REpublican party. So he has to cowtow to the party line...period....end of story. If he doesn't, he will lose all support, both political and financial, and not have a snowballs chance in hell of becoming president. Unfortunately, this does not fit in with his independent, "maverick" character AT ALL! But can you blame him? The man wants to be president before he dies. He's insulted that a boob like GW could have beat him in the first place. He will do whatever it takes in the end just like the rest of them. The fact that he even talks to Karl Rove let alone takes advice tells you plain and clear that he has sold his soul.

Hi pollchecker... I have no

Submitted by Carl Nemo on March 25, 2008 - 1:45pm.

Hi pollchecker...

I have no idea if you read the Anti-War.com link I provided from 2001. The article emphasizes the fact that McCain was an angry warmonger back then and is still one today.

Regardless of his tactics to climb to the top, he's a loose cannon on deck and a danger to the world at large.

To put it simply he's "screaming yellow zonkers" nuts which I surmise is a form of transcendental senility.:|

We surely don't want to find out how far off his rocker he just might be once elected to the presidency.

I'll also post the duty link concerning this character.

http://www.electricnevada.com/pages00/mccain.htm

Carl Nemo **==

Carl -- you've got to read

Submitted by pollchecker on March 25, 2008 - 5:56pm.

Carl -- you've got to read this. I know you will appreciate it!

Voting For McCain Makes People Angry, Depressed According To Crazy New Study

Hi pollchecker... Thanks for

Submitted by Carl Nemo on March 25, 2008 - 7:50pm.

Hi pollchecker...

Thanks for the link. I thought it was a "hoot"...!:))

"The U.S. Senator from Arizona also stirs a high level of 'insecurity,' as well as deep-seated positive emotions like ['confidence' and 'interest' particularly among older and Hispanic voters."] ...extract from supplied link, my brackets

What's interesting it that it supports my thesis from my first post to this blog article that the older generation; ie., the so-called 'Greatest Generation' that seem to be enamoured with this guys politics, have done little research concerning his lifelong track record. He definitely has AARP appeal... :))

As far as Hispanics are concerned being enamoured with this "loose cannon on deck" is possibly due to his bravado and seemingly machissmo persona; ie., "Mr. Tough Guy" that might appeal to them.

Yeah he's a toughguy alright on the U.S. taxypayers time and dime. As far as I'm concerned he hasn't been worth one plugged nickel of his Senators pay while in office.

Why Arizonan's continue to reelect him is beyond me? It must the tasty "pulled pork sandwiches" he sends back to Mayberry's in the desert courtesy of the U.S. Treasury "deli" that keeps them all smiling.

Carl Nemo **==

There is a large AARP crowd

Submitted by pollchecker on March 25, 2008 - 9:27pm.

There is a large AARP crowd in Arizona (wink)

Think that one was good?

Submitted by pollchecker on March 26, 2008 - 12:04am.

Think that one was good? Here's an even better one (grin).

Chavez says U.S. relations could worsen with McCain

So does this mean that if we reelect Bush/McCain ticket in 2008, that Venezuela is cutting us off from oil once and for all?

I read it the link. thanks

Submitted by pollchecker on March 25, 2008 - 2:22pm.

I read it the link. thanks for posting it. I totally understand how you feel Carl. I can't even begin to fathom life under President McCain. I have a hard time believing that people couldn't see through his facade and see the real man, but then I thought people would have had enough of GW after 4 years too (sigh)!

So I'm going to keep up posting the facts about McCain right along with you, so that other people can understand what many of us including you and I understand.

That no matter what they say, our country cannot AFFORD 4 mores years under the control of the steal and spend republicans.

Sigh...gal!? We and our kin

Submitted by Carl Nemo on March 26, 2008 - 1:16am.

Sigh...gal!? We and our kin need to emigrate to Iceland, Finland, Norway or Finland, immediately if not sooner in the face of the possibility of McCain becoming "preznit"... :|

Carl Nemo **==

Sorry, already tried that

Submitted by pollchecker on March 26, 2008 - 8:00am.

Sorry, already tried that after GW got reelected in 2004. Ain't nowhere to go. All we can do is keep the truth about McCain front and center cause the main stream media talking heads apparently aren't going to do it.

"We and our kin need to

Submitted by pollchecker on March 26, 2008 - 10:54am.

"We and our kin need to emigrate to Iceland, Finland, Norway or Finland, immediately if not sooner in the face of the possibility of McCain becoming "preznit"... :|"

I've got an idea (wink,grin). Let's buy a whole lot of cheap acreage property in West Texas not far from the border with mineral rights and then secede from the Union.

The US military won't have the resources to do anything about it due to their prior commitments and Texas sure isn't up to doing anything militarily. Then we can grant amnesty to all the illegals crossing the border and use them as an army to protect the land and cheap labor force to make ourselves a major economic power. Since we are no longer part of the US, rich people will flock to locate their corporations there in order to qualify for tax exemptions and who knows we might even get some foreign aid to help develop our infrastructure.

With Global Warming, it won't be long before A)the Rio Grande will running over its banks so we will have plenty of water for farming and B)the Texas Coast will be kicked back making us not too far from the beach. And since we own the property the country is formed out of, then we can decide who lives there and who doesn't.

McCain is sounding a lot

Submitted by pollchecker on March 26, 2008 - 12:06pm.

McCain is sounding a lot like Dick Cheney these days. Do you think perhaps he is taking lessons? Or is the REAL John McCain starting to peak through the cracks in his political facade?

John McCain will turn this war around right now if you don't shut up

McCain Recycles 2001 Pro-War

Submitted by pollchecker on March 26, 2008 - 2:17pm.

McCain Recycles 2001 Pro-War Column For 2008 Speech

Didn't we just go through this bruhaha with Senator Obama regarding one of his speeches? Perhaps the reasons we don't hear a lot of sniping and criticism from the McCain camp is because the Senator is guilty, Guilty, GUILTY of ALL THE SAME OFFENSES!

And this guy wants to be the

Submitted by pollchecker on March 31, 2008 - 3:07pm.

And this guy wants to be the next President? Check this out!

McCain ‘Surprised’ by Iraq Developments

The part that gets me is this:

“Maliki decided to take on this operation without consulting the Americans,’’ Mr. McCain said on his campaign bus as it rolled through downtown Meridian, saying that the move showed independence but that he had expected the military to focus on Mosul.
“I just am surprised that he would take it on himself to go down and take charge of a military offensive,’’ he said. “I had not anticipated that he would do that.’’

Just because this man fought in Vietnam and was a POW does not qualify him to be President. If it did, there would be a lot of other qualified candidates.

The quote above clearly shows that McCain doesn't have a grasp on reality.

McCain Gets Iraq Facts Wrong

Submitted by pollchecker on April 1, 2008 - 5:22pm.

McCain Gets Iraq Facts Wrong Again: Says Sadr — Not Maliki — ‘Asked’ For Ceasefire»

McCain is dumber than GW.

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