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March 14, 2008 - 5:54am.
![]() A detailed Pentagon study confirms there was no direct link between late Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein and the Al-Qaeda network, debunking a claim President George W. Bush's administration used to justify invading Iraq. Coming five years after the start of the war in Iraq, the study of 600,000 official Iraqi documents and thousands of hours of interrogations of former Saddam Hussein colleagues "found no smoking gun (i.e. direct connection) between Saddam's Iraq and Al-Qaeda," said the study, quoted in US media Thursday. The US administration appeared to bury the release of the study, making it available only at individual request and by mail -- instead of posting it on the Internet or handing it out to reporters. A Pentagon spokesman on Thursday said they did not know why the Joint Forces Command was not posting the report online, but denied that it was an attempt to limit its distribution. "We don't have a reason to do so. I think when you see the report it will show a Nazi-esque cataloque of Saddam's ties to terror, both within his own country and elsewhere in the Middle East," said Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell. Previous reports by the blue-ribbon September 11 commission and the Pentagon's inspector general in 2007 reached the same conclusion that there were no ties between Saddam and Al-Qaeda but none had access to as much information. "The Iraqi Perspective Project review of captured Iraqi documents uncovered strong evidence that links the regime of Saddam Hussein to regional and global terrorism," said a summary of the Pentagon study to which ABC News provided a link on its website Wednesday. "State terrorism became a routine tool of State power" but "the predominant target of Iraqi state terror operations were Iraqi citizens," the summary said. ABC reported the study initially was to be posted on the US military's website accompanied by a background briefing with the study's authors. But the Pentagon scrapped those plans and took the unusual step of offering only to send the report by mail to those who asked for it. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and top aides have insisted there were links between Saddam and Al-Qaeda, citing the alleged ties as a rationale for going to war in Iraq. "The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and Al-Qaeda is because there was a relationship between Iraq and Al-Qaeda," Bush told reporters in June 2004. The study says Saddam Hussein's regime did not have clear ties to Al-Qaeda, which was responsible for the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, but had associations with other terror groups including Palestinian militants. The regime "often cooperated directly, albeit cautiously, with terrorist groups when they believed such groups could help advance Iraq's long-term goals," it said. "The regime carefully recorded its connections to Palestinian terror organizations in numerous government memos. "One such example documents Iraqi financial support to families of suicide bombers in Gaza and the West Bank," the study said. Copyright © 2008 Agence France Presse
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What else is new. Can we now
Submitted by Bluesman2007 on March 14, 2008 - 6:43am.What else is new. Can we now impeach the bastard and be done with it? Just thinking out loud here.
PS: Can we PLEASE add gross
Submitted by Bluesman2007 on March 14, 2008 - 6:44am.PS: Can we PLEASE add gross incompetence and stupidity as impeachable offenses?
We would need a multi noose
Submitted by bryan mcclellan on March 14, 2008 - 8:41am.We would need a multi noose setup to stretch the length of the national mall because if we hang one for treason we've got to hang them all. They absolutely deserve Saddams fate, Media enablers too.
Yawn...Sigh....
Submitted by Pablo on March 14, 2008 - 9:31am.Yawn...Sigh....
just another in a long list of smoking guns. I no longer have hope that anybody, even the majority of american people (gas prices remain low enough to keep filling the gas guzzling SUVs, so why care?), care enough to do what is right. Oooohhh wellllll.
Why even bother to report
Submitted by griff on March 14, 2008 - 12:09pm.Why even bother to report this anymore?
People seem to continually
Submitted by Carl Nemo on March 14, 2008 - 1:28pm.People seem to continually forget that this was an engineered war based on "cooked" intelligence courtesy of the Wolfowitz-Feith-Cheney rogue intelligence pipeline which self-dissolved post their "mission accomplished".
When G.W. Bush took office, oil was at $12 per barrel with it now at $110; ie., a 900 percent increase in pricing.
The MIC along with thousands of minor camp-following contractors have made hundreds of billions of dollars off this "engineered war project" and it's still in progress!?
Our Congressional politburo has no interest in either stopping the war or impeaching Bush/Cheney et. al. for their blatant in our face criminality, in order to avenge the fallen, both our own and innocent Iraqi's that have been virtually murdered for simply a buck or two more...!
In fact this New Age, emasculated politburo is still wrestling with this criminal cabal over FISA and allowing the phone companies to be prosecuted as being co-conspirators in spying on Americans. These guys knew better and all they had to say to the NSA guy/s or government shills that were sent to ask for such support was to simply get out of my office and learn to obey the laws of the land...!
But no, being the greedy, sob, pirate capitalists that they are 24/7/365, they were hoping for some rich government contracts if they cooperated.
Bryan McClellan is absolutely correct in that we'd need a gallows the length of the national mall to see that justice is done for these high crimes against the Republic and it's people.
Per Nancy Pelousy..."impeachment is off the table"...!? : |
It's interesting to see how eager NY State republicans wanted to impeach Spitzer for a relatively minor offense compared to Bush/Cheney's transgressions, but when it comes to doing what's necessary against one of their own in DC for true "high crimes and misdemeanors", it's off their table too. What a bunch of duplicit, evil slimeballs have made it to the top nationwide!
Carl Nemo **==
"Coming five years after the
Submitted by John Q on March 14, 2008 - 1:54pm."Coming five years after the start of the war in Iraq, the study of 600,000 official Iraqi documents and thousands of hours of interrogations of former Saddam Hussein colleagues" to come up with a conclusion like this is absolutely amazing! Aren't those people the same ones in charge of the most powerful militaty forces in the world? How long do you think it'll take for them to determine whether a pair of socks are the same color?
Everyone in the world with more than one brain cell already knew that 5 years ago.
Yes, there is a smoking gun
Submitted by Warren on March 14, 2008 - 3:39pm.Yes, there is a smoking gun ... but it's pointed the other way 'round. Follow the logic.
The pentagon certainly would have voiced an opinion on this matter to the administration when the administration told the pentagon to prepare for war and was telling the Americans that Saddam was supporting Al-Qaeda. I don't suppose our top generals get told to go to war without them asking why and offering their own intelligence on the matter. The pentagon's intelligence would have been affirmative, neutral, or contradicting. To be affirmative the evidence would have to have been very strong to justify war. Five years later one would have to believe that it was extraordinarily bad, stretching the imagination beyond any reasonable limit that it could have been that bad. If the evidence was neutral or contradictory, certainly that was brought to the attention of the administration.
Next question: Why did it take five years for the pentagon to release an assessment? If their evidence supported the administration's action it would have been paraded through the press with great fanfare five years ago.
Any way you look at it, the smoking gun points at the White House. The only way this story makes sense is the scenario where the pentagon's evidence was neutral or contradictory; the President ignored it; and it is now released five years later with as little press as possible.
This bunch of clowns just
Submitted by SEAL on March 14, 2008 - 8:44pm.This bunch of clowns just don't seem to get it. By not posting it normally they make themselves look like they are trying to hide something.
There is nothing special about this or new in the report. It just took the Army 5 years to wade through the volume of crap, analyze it, and write it up. But now they go and make themselves look guilty [which they are, of course].
But they are allowed to get away with it just like every damn thing else they have done. You have to wonder why they have been so successfull in their criminality when they are so bad at covering it up. They're like the gang that couldn't shoot straight.
What I don't understand is how such an openly corupt administration can get away with all they do. They even admit they break they law and they openly declare they will not obey laws. How did we ever get to the point where this could be? Where did America go?
The more personal question
Submitted by Warren on March 14, 2008 - 11:21pm.The more personal question is, 'Where will I go?'
numbnuts all around Seal.We
Submitted by bryan mcclellan on March 15, 2008 - 1:08am.numbnuts all around Seal.We are surrounded ,with numbnuts.
How about Sweden? If you
Submitted by SEAL on March 15, 2008 - 12:11am.How about Sweden? If you could live there as a guest without having to surrender your income to their 90% tax you could live like a king or queen. Just $500 a month cash is a fortune there since everything is free and rent is so low. You might have to live there part time to do that or set up with a citizen or two or three [they would likle the extra money] as their visitor so you don't have to register as a permanent but it should be worth it. You could be a rich person on only your SS check.
Unfortunately the Swedes,
Submitted by Carl Nemo on March 16, 2008 - 3:06am.Unfortunately the Swedes, Norwegians, Icelanders, Denmark and other "highly civilized ethnicly pure; ie., white nations" won't let you in, unless you are dragging along big bucks, converted to their equivalency in euro's or Icelandic Krona with you... :|
Carl Nemo **==
p.s. They are both savvy and smart concerning their immigration/visa guidelines.