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October 12, 2008 - 10:18pm.
These words spoken more than a half century ago about one of the Senate’s most vicious hate mongers have new relevance to Senator John McCain. Who we have largely taken to be a decent man has descended into the most dangerous attack on a fellow candidate in recent times. It is time he rescue his honor, remove Sarah Palin from his ticket and offer an apology to America and Senator Obama specifically. He has disgraced himself and unleashed forces that portend evil. Palin’s irresponsible claim that Obama is a terrorist can fairly be interpreted as summoning up the crowd’s responsive calls for harm to his person. It is one thing to decry what proves to be a weak link between Senator Obama and William Ayers. It is quite another to claim that because of any such association Obama is a terrorist. That is irresponsible and beneath the dignity of the American people. We should have gotten a clue of what the real purpose of naming Palin when as Frank Rich points out in the New York Times , she quoted Westbrook Pegler, a man who called for someone to splatter Bobby Kennedy’s brains; a man for whom hatred was the serum of life. We might have been wary when she told us she didn’t care what anyone asked she would say what she wanted heard. Sarah Palin’s lack of contact with mainstream America of so many values and issues is troubling enough, but for her to become the cheerleader for hatred is beyond the pale. She has raised to the surface that strange brew of racism and violence unique to America in a way that is at once dangerous and insidious. That senator McCain allows this horrible woman to spew hatred is unconscionable. It is both beneath his own standards but a complete repudiation of the one good attribute his candidacy once offered America – his willingness to bridge our divides. All that is gone, sacrificed to the evil god of ambition and hunger for power. It would be nice to pretend that McCain is the victim of an out of control campaign and that he retains his basic goodness, but I can no longer do so. Many of us have long worried that his well known volatile temper would be a danger for anyone in the office of President. What we, or at least I, did not discern that his temper would find outlet through a woman of such little character as Sarah Palin. This is a governor who was so petty as to use her influence to fire a former brother in law for personal reasons. This is a governor who doesn’t have a clue about what 90% of America deals with on a daily basis. She is either rather dumb or just not interested in using her mental resources. She is a joke that allows for no laughter. All of that can be put into a “that’s politics” container – after all we made it through Dan Quayle. But it cannot be tolerated in modern America that she be allowed to work crowds into a lynch mob mentality where it is acceptable to call for killing the opposition candidate. It cannot be tolerated that McCain publicly asks for calm while his ads speak hatred and he retains the mistress of hate to share his ticket. It is time for McCain to replace Sarah Palin or resign from it himself. Just as the junior Senator from Wisconsin brought dishonor to the Senate, McCain has brought dishonor to his party, the Senate and the electoral process.
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Perhaps if we could get
Submitted by RichardKanePA-2 on October 13, 2008 - 6:15am.Perhaps if we could get Sarah worried about a new Black Hole, she might stop subconcously thinking that working toward the end of the world has something to do with loving Jesus.
By the way, the world working together to stop econominc meltdown, may make the UN not a dirty word anymore.
RichardKanePA-2
Palin’s irresponsible
Submitted by Harve3 on October 13, 2008 - 4:02pm.Phil, pls provide source for Palin's accusation of Obama as a "terrorist". Thanx in advance.
Phil, which part of the unattributed quotation Ms Palin used do you find offensive? Are you suggesting Ms Palin in her use of the quotation subscribes to the extreme views of the source? If yes, then aren't the supporters of Ms Palin justified in associating Mr Obama with the views of unrepentant bomber William Ayers?
Phil, pls provide an example of alleged "hatred" being "spewed"[?] so others can better appreciate your values; maybe it isn't hatred at all, just an opinion with which you disagree?
Hill Country Weisenheimer
It's in code words, like
Submitted by CaliforniaMike on October 13, 2008 - 11:57pm.It's in code words, like when she says "Obama is not like us."
Oooh, he's a Negro!
She's smart enough -- or her handlers are smart enough -- to keep laying it between the lines, but if people are responding with "kill him" or "off with his head," she's saying something.
Bravo, Phil!!!
Submitted by 33rdSt on October 13, 2008 - 11:14am.Bravo, Phil!!!
No line exists between
Submitted by bryan mcclellan on October 13, 2008 - 11:19am.No line exists between hatred and outright spoken contempt.Republican neocon sorehead tactics have brought us to the brink of civil unrest and they should be prosecuted for inciting a mob mentality, retroactive in it's scope of indictment to take down Fox , limbag and the rest who spew hate at will.
So you propose to suppress
Submitted by Harve3 on October 13, 2008 - 11:46am.So you propose to suppress political opinions with which you disagree under color of law; is this the policy we can expect from a prospective Obama administration? Won't such a policy require repeal of Amendment I of the Constitution of the United States?
Hill Country Weisenheimer
No, it is a policy that will
Submitted by barak on October 13, 2008 - 2:36pm.No, it is a policy that will be put in place if McCain wins. Not many Republicans and too many Democrats feel that the Constitution is antiquated and that the Amendments are made to be ignored.
What I plainly said is that
Submitted by bryan mcclellan on October 13, 2008 - 4:41pm.What I plainly said is that it is still against the law to yell FIRE in a crowded theater. If anyone feels it appropriate to spread slander and lies and then step back as the mindless hate they have fomented boils over, then the 1st amendment does not apply to them or their speech.
It transcends law and is based on human decency and the rights of those persecuted wrongly and unfairly accused.
An old text calls it, to bear false witness.
It is not a difficult standard unless one is a sore headed loser.
Hill Country, just where do
Submitted by peagcu12 on October 13, 2008 - 11:06pm.Hill Country, just where do you think the momentum for the folks saying things like "off with his head" come from? It's basically a frothing at the mouth desperation they hear from Rush and others that is trickling into the McCain-Palin ticket. I would not be surprised if someone shot Obama any day the way that guy and others he influences get worked up about someone who just has a different view about the way this country could be run. I can almost hear him, the shooter, saying..."this guy was going to turn us all into communists/socialists. I had to stop him. He was going to ruin my country," and feeling like a patriot.
We have a right to choose anyone we want. Leave the threatening out of it.
Cruzn
It's still against the law
Submitted by CaliforniaMike on October 13, 2008 - 11:58pm.It's still against the law to incite to riot.
"No sense of decency", as in
Submitted by Flapsaddle on October 13, 2008 - 12:04pm."No sense of decency", as in Mr. Clinton's disgraceful conduct and badge-of-honor behavior? As in Lyndon Johnson's blatant lie of a claim that Goldwater wanted to put Sr-90 in children's milk and to get us into a land war in Asia? As in Robert Kennedy's attempt to present himself as the "peace candidate" after having been quite instrumental in upping the ante in Southeast Asia?
Decency and political campaigns tend to be mutually exclusive.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
Another Clinton
Submitted by barak on October 13, 2008 - 2:41pm.Another Clinton blamer.
According to your type, Clinton is to blame for ALL our troubles. Facts get in the way so you choose to ignore them. The truth is put aside by you, and the lies, the same old tired lies are trotted out because you are too lacking in originality to create new ones.
Robert Kennedy changed his mind when he saw his mistakes. He was a NOBLE man, but that is something that escapes definition for people like you.
I blame Clinton only for his
Submitted by Flapsaddle on October 13, 2008 - 3:01pm.I blame Clinton only for his own lack of character and personal/political failings, just as I blame Bush only for his faults. I find it astounding that anyone of either side would be so naive as to try and assign all of our problems to one party or to one politician.
Robert Kennedy was a grasping, power-obsessed little bully with only a thin facade of civility about him, a political opportunist who was, thanks to the Kennedy obsession with being "tough", one of the chief culprits in getting us into Vietnam.
The truly noble politician of that era was Wisconsin's junior senator, Eugene McCarthy, who challenged Johnson first. Kennedy slithered into the picture after that.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
Flapsaddle, I knew Robert
Submitted by Phil Hoskins on October 13, 2008 - 4:12pm.Flapsaddle, I knew Robert Kennedy and he was nothing like your vile description of him. He was a hard player and felt strongly about his beliefs. He changed dramatically after his brother's assassination and experienced what I felt was a true conversion.
Did you know him or is this an opinion based upon what others say?
Phil Hoskins
You are entitled to your
Submitted by Flapsaddle on October 13, 2008 - 11:26pm.You are entitled to your opinion of Kennedy, but do not expect the aura from being in his presence to necessarily translate into adoration from another perspective. I prefer to judge him on his actions and what I regard as his hypocrisy.
Sorry you regard my description as vile, but I see it as the truth - he was a corrupt, power-obsessed hack from a disfunctional family who had no problems at all crawling atop his dead brother's coffin in order to appear a bit taller than he ever could have been on his own.
He lacked the balls of Eugene McCarthy to challenge Johnson on the war. He became a "peace candidate" only after McCarthy demonstrated LBJ's vulnerability in New Hampshire, and then wanted McCarthy to drop out.
Given he and his brother's sign-off on the coup that killed the Nho brothers, given he and his brother's many attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro, there is a certain karmic justice in him being killed by the assassin's bullet.
Worship him all you wish, sir, but do not expect others to uncritically drink the Kennedy kool-aid.
Most sincerely,
T. J. Flapsaddle
I'm impressed TJF with your
Submitted by Carl Nemo on October 14, 2008 - 10:13pm.I'm impressed TJF with your in-depth knowledge of the Kennedys and you've surely nailed "Bobby" with your spot-on indictment concerning his politically expedient choices when it came to furthering the Kennedy transgenerational agenda. You surely aren't "vile" by my standards, but spot-on concerning the K-knaves!
Carl Nemo **==
Fringe observation question
Submitted by bryan mcclellan on October 15, 2008 - 12:39am.Fringe observation question please;
Breakdown Bushco - VS- K-knaves, please.
Hi Bryan... Actually in the
Submitted by Carl Nemo on October 15, 2008 - 1:36pm.Hi Bryan...
Actually in the light of day I wished I hadn't written that last sentence, referring the Kennedys as "knaves". Obviously there's no comparison between the lengthy laundry list of crimes against the people on behalf of the Bush regime vs. anything I could dredge up on the Kennedy's which in comparison are minor to say the least relative to the abrogation of our freedoms under the Constitution, the Bill of Rights etc.
The only thing I do have issue with is John Kennedy picking up the mess in Indo-China passed on to him from the Eisenhower administration and then committing Special Forces advisers in support of the corrupt Ngo Dinh Diem regime. As always our CIA manages to align this nation with corrupt, seemingly pro-west regimes. Let's face it the money is good if you are buddies with the U.S.
Post Kennedy's assassination Johnson picked up the ball and continued to run with failed policies and methods of engagement. I believe we can chalk up four million plus dead mistakes for both sides due to our leaders failing to heed valid intelligence as opposed to "cooked" intel products that will allow them to wage wars for the purpose of simply enriching the MIC and their associates in the "oil patch".
Key into Google "Joseph Kennedy and the mob" and then select the link "JFK" and read about how the patriarch helped his son Jack pull off his 1960 victory. Jack then appointed his overzealous brother Robert to the AG office. Evidently old Joe Kennedy didn't explain to his sons as to how they made it to the Whitehouse. Bobby proceeded to lean heavily on the crime syndicate and the rest is history. There are strong links to mob facilitated connections when it comes to the investigation of the Kennedy assassination. So Jack's stiff-necked younger brother became his undoing representing payback for a campaign related doublecross as far as the mob was concerned.
The Bush crime family has been waging war against Americans for the past eight years whereas the Kennedy's were simply a family on the make driven by an autocratic patriarch; ie., Joseph Kennedy to see that his family made it to the top in American politics.
Carl Nemo **==
Then I would assume the only
Submitted by Malibu on October 13, 2008 - 7:08pm.Then I would assume the only way to stop this who is guiltier game is to find a candidate who has a clean record without corruption. We had one Flapsaddle but I didn't see you or any of the others get out the vote for Paul. I don't mean St. Paul but Ron Paul.
Those of you who whine the loudest are the last to pitch in for the votes.
Malcolm
I never bought the idea that
Submitted by Malibu on October 13, 2008 - 12:55pm.I never bought the idea that if the otherside lies, it is okay for ourside! The time has come to take no sides and work for the truth with maybe some honor.
Malcolm
It's too bad we're so deep
Submitted by griff on October 13, 2008 - 6:07pm.It's too bad we're so deep in this shit that reason and logic has no place. There is no honor among thieves, so you'll find none in our politics.
Unfortunately everyone is forced to take sides. The truth is what's on TV. Independent thought and real reform have gone the way of the dinosaur, to be replaced with the embarrassing spectacle we have before us now.
In all my life I have never been more ashamed of my country and its people. The way we allow the media to control the dialog and - sadly - our minds, is flat out disgraceful to thinking people.
Oh but it gets people riled up - for all the wrong reasons, in support of all the wrong people.
Griff, yours is the voice of
Submitted by Ladywolf55 on October 14, 2008 - 12:42pm.Griff, yours is the voice of reason and truth in a sea of ignominy and ignorance. How right you are.
I met a man from Australia while on vacation last month. He said he can't understand our electoral process, how it's nothing but a big show, like a circus full of swindlers and traveling medicine men, touting their useless wares as if they are worth gold while the people worship them as if Gods. He said we're laughable.
He was right.
ahh yes, I remember all of
Submitted by Timr on October 14, 2008 - 12:22pm.ahh yes, I remember all of them well. The LBJ Daisy ad is an oldie but a goodie. The problem as I see it is not political speech at all, but rabble rousing. Taking the extremes to extreme. When McCain stated that he was going to run a dignified campaign he set the limits beyond which he would not go. But then when he said that Obama was "making" him go negative because Obama did not agree to weekly town hall debates with him, that showed a very petty person, blaming someone else for your own decision. While I will admit that politics was a lot dirtier back 200 years ago, and even as far back as the RFK campaign, they did not suffer under the 24/7 TV news bombardment. As we have seen over the last year with some Malkin blogs, it does not take very much to make some people unhinged. anonymity encourages extremism.
There have been some rather famous social studies experiments done that tend to prove my point. Remember the blue eyed vs brown eyed children experiment where the blue eyes were encouraged to believe that the brown eyed kids were inferior. I believe it was stopped because it got out of hand. The same thing happend with "the prisoner" study. Where some kids were guards and others prisoners the experiment once more got out of hand when the "guards" kind of went ape.
The point is that free speech or protected political speech is neither free nor protected when taken to extremes. You can't yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater, so you can not, or should not because an adult could see the reaction, say that a presidential candidate who looks different and who has a different name is a "terrorist" or "pals around with terrorists" simply because of the precarious state of the nations nerves following 911 and 7 years of our own govt telling us over and over that we must be very afraid. We must be afraid and suspicious of everyone who does not look exactly like us(oh, and by the way-whisper-did you know that he is black? said in a slightly scandalous tone). Communism is dead so we can't use red baiting tactics. But socialism seems to have become a good substitute. The republicians have been running a campaign since the early 90s to make "liberal" into a dirty word, they have done a very good job of doing just that.
In the end it all comes down to one thing. McCain promised us an "honorable campaign" He has not delivered. The comment is still valid. "Sen McCain, in the end sir, have you left no sense of decency"
Phil, if you think McCain is
Submitted by barak on October 13, 2008 - 2:32pm.Phil, if you think McCain is a 'decent man' then you don't know McCain at all.
He chose Sarah Palin because she is just like him--a lying, cheating, 'holier-than-thou' person who thinks she can do no wrong, and who, given power, abuses that power and disregards the wishes of her constituents. Both McCain and Palin are the bottom of the barrel, scum of the earth, typical lying politicians.
Just like Bush/Cheney.
Media darling Sarah Palin
Submitted by NorthrupP-61 on October 13, 2008 - 3:27pm.Media darling Sarah Palin has given the right-wing of the Republican Party permission to remove the masks of politeness they've been hiding behind. What the world is seeing now is the TRUE face of American Conservatives.
"I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind, yet strangely, I am ungrateful to those teachers." Prentiss
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Submitted by Carl Nemo on October 13, 2008 - 6:45pm.duplicate post deleted
I'm actually glad that
Submitted by Carl Nemo on October 13, 2008 - 11:58pm.I'm actually glad that McCain/Palin have chosen a path of vile slander against Obama. It is their undoing and will insure victory for Obama. : )
They've crossed the Rubicon and there is no turning back...!
Carl Nemo **==
Many the commenters above,
Submitted by RichardKanePA on October 14, 2008 - 9:23am.Many the commenters above, talked about what they remembered. I wonder if any of us commenting on this blog are under 60 years old. Perhaps CHB needs to appeal also to younger readers. Perhaps the latest October surprise piece will do that, "node/11569".
RichardKanePA
Richard, I am under 60. Just
Submitted by Timr on October 14, 2008 - 12:17pm.Richard, I am under 60. Just because I remember the LBJ Daisy ad-I think that I was in HS or maybe jrHS then-does not make me an old person, could be that some of the commenters looked up on that ol internets-you know, the series of tubes thingy-and that is how they know about how politics was back in the day.
I am under 60, also. I do
Submitted by Ladywolf55 on October 14, 2008 - 12:50pm.I am under 60, also. I do remember the 60's well. I was a young child, but I remember the turmoil, the sadness, fear,the pride in Martin Luther King and his courage (I'm caucasian, but have great pride and admiration in what MLK tried to accomplish), and well remember Kent State where our own government turned on it's peaceful protesters and killed them. Our government is slightly DIFFERENT today, it's worse. Beware.